Site Information
About Us
- RonPaulForums.com is an independent grassroots outfit not officially connected to Ron Paul but dedicated to his mission. For more information see our Mission Statement.
United was wrong to do this in this situation because they weren't really "overbooked" at all, but rather decided to allow four of their employees to catch the flight. They should've just had their employees catch a different flight instead. However, if there actually were a hypothetical situation where a flight was overbooked, and United offered the passengers money if they chose to leave the flight, and none of the passengers accepted the offer, then they would have no choice but to force several people to leave the flight. And yeah, I would be in favor of them raising the price until someone accepted the offer. But, what if it got into the thousands of dollars and still no one accepted the offer? I don't see what else they could do but to force several people to leave the flight in that situation.
Last edited by Brett85; 04-10-2017 at 09:53 PM.
Plan better. Four employees needed to be at the destination. Would it have inconvenienced them to go a day early, or two, and be put up in a hotel room?
My personal take...
If I had paid for a ticket and you tried to drag my ass out of it for one of your employees I'd have initiated the nuclear option.
The video would have been much better fare for the public. They love bloodsports.
It is the airline that resorted to calling goons to do to be their "muscle." United Airlines lies and says they "asked him to voluntarily" give up his seat. Well if they are asking and it is voluntary, then he has a right to say no doesn't he. It wasn't voluntary. They lied. They were trying to steal the seat they sold back by force.
United Airlines is the ones who overbooked, and they should pay the consequences.
They offered a voucher, but the passengers did not find that a fair price for giving up their seat.
United Airlines wanted someone to give up a seat but they did not want to pay the market price to obtain that. They should have increased the offer until someone was willing to sell their seat back to the airline. They should have offer two or three vouchers - whatever the market price turns out to be. Eventually, someone would accept. If they want to overbook, fine, but they better be willing to pay the fair market price required to buy the necessary seats back.
Instead, United used force to steal back a seat they sold, instead of paying the fair market price for getting it back after they over booked.
Last edited by AZJoe; 04-11-2017 at 04:48 AM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.
United is not handling this so well:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...wvideo/2319852United Airlines' parent company CEO Oscar Munoz late Monday issued a letter defending his employees, saying the passenger was being "disruptive and belligerent."
While Munoz said he was "upset" to see and hear what happened, "our employees followed established procedures for dealing with situations like this."
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
freedomisobvious.blogspot.com
There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
I think it matters. . . if people are not actually being assured of a seat on a plane, I would imagine many people might not book it to begin with.
Indeed, this says all I need to know about this copsucker.
I wont be flying united if I can reasonably find an alternative.United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz said the passenger seen in a viral video who was dragged, bloodied off his company’s plane on Sunday had “defied” security officers and had become “disruptive and belligerent,” even as some lawmakers called for an investigation into the incident.
Munoz issued a statement Monday to employees defending the airline’s widely derided actions in forcibly removing a passenger from a Chicago flight bound for Louisville. The man who was taken off the plane has not been named, but he identified himself as a doctor during the debacle and another passenger said the man said he was of Chinese descent. The man was asked to leave in order to accommodate the seating of several United crew members.
“This situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused and it became necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help,” Munoz wrote.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/0...stigation.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zgbMIiPTS4
FIGHT OR FLIGHT
United Airlines passenger ripped from seat and dragged off overbooked flight
revealed to be father-of-five-specialist doctor aged 69
Passengers recorded the moment the elderly man is pulled out of his seat and along the floor by official
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/330548...tor-david-dao/
United Airlines Chief blames "belligerent" passenger for violent removal
"Our employees followed established procedures for dealing with situations like this"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7677711.html
[PS - this is international news now, seems movable to mods?]
Last edited by Jan2017; 04-11-2017 at 11:12 AM.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
The person who did the pulling is no longer employed. Or so I hope.
Been flying Continental and then United for 20 years now, million mile flyer.
Have been in a high state of piss off over the merger for years now.
But this was the last straw, wrote a hate/ragequit mail to United and have switched to Jet Blue.
I hope the rent-a-Officer is OK
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
I have a problem with how all the news articles are saying that the flight was oversold/overbooked. From what i'm reading it was NOT oversold, or at least that was not the problem. They didn't sell too many seats, they decided to unsell available seats in order to use them for employee transportation. This was a change of plans, not a matter of lack of seats for ticketed paying customers.
Connect With Us