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Thread: Republicans Captured A Higher Percentage Of Hispanic Voters In Midterms Than Trump Did In 2016

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.
    That would make a great joke tweet for DJTvsg to post.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Since illegal immigirants can't vote and Hispanics are the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.

    Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?

    Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.



    All excellent points as usual.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    All excellent points irrelevant spin as usual.
    Fixed it.
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  6. #34
    Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.
    We live in hope but I won't hold my breath waiting.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?

    We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.
    1) Trump is the one sending money to Venezuelan refugees.

    2) The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.
    Just wait until 100% of republicans start supporting liberty.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    1) Trump is the one sending money to Venezuelan refugees.
    Irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    2) The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
    It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Irrelevant.


    It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.
    Criticizing a group of people certainly does NOT encourage them to support you in the next election- even if they happen to agree with you on issues. If you don't like the way the group votes, try to encourage them to come over. Don't drive them away. That is guaranteed to fail. Democrats grew by welcoming groups rejected by Republicans. If you use anti- Hispanic or anti-immigrant rhetoric, can you expect Hispanics to vote for you?

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Criticizing a group of people certainly does NOT encourage them to support you in the next election- even if they happen to agree with you on issues. If you don't like the way the group votes, try to encourage them to come over. Don't drive them away. That is guaranteed to fail. Democrats grew by welcoming groups rejected by Republicans. If you use anti- Hispanic or anti-immigrant rhetoric, can you expect Hispanics to vote for you?
    Trust is earned, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

    The Demoncrats grew by importing communists.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Irrelevant.


    It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.
    Straw man argument.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Straw man argument.
    LOL
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trust is earned, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

    The Demoncrats grew by importing communists.
    Commie is so 1950's. But seems to be your "go to". That and "RHINOs". Means you ran out of arguments.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    You're laughing because you don't know what a straw man argument is.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You're laughing because you don't know what a straw man argument is.
    I'm laughing because you don't.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Commie is so 1950's. But seems to be your "go to". That and "RHINOs". Means you ran out of arguments.
    LOL

    You are pathetic.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm laughing because you don't.
    Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    You are pathetic.
    Another very convincing argument you raise. Do go on.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.
    You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration, the alternative is supposed to be that we throw our borders wide open and then they will vote Republican, that is ridiculous as I already explained.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Another very convincing argument you raise. Do go on.
    You don't deserve anything better as your posts in this thread show.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration
    Bullshyt. I said no such thing. You can limit immigration without being an asswipe about it. Case in point all of the hand wringing in the thread about the immigrant politician who happened to be a democrat. "OMG! They're going to make us all socialist!" Total hyperbole which ignored immigrant politicians from the other side of the spectrum.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post

    The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration, the alternative is supposed to be that we throw our borders wide open and then they will vote Republican, that is ridiculous as I already explained.
    You make the erroneous assumption that somebody against stopping every single person from entering the country favors letting in anybody who wants to come. Ron Paul is not for open borders but opposes Trump's wall as well as some of his other proposals.

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...ecurity-state/

    Given President Trump’s impulsive decision to suddenly send 5,200 armed US soldiers to the US-Mexico border to prevent a few thousand women and children and others from seeking refugee status in the United States, which foreign citizens are entitled to do under US law, a question naturally arises with respect to those troops: What were they doing before they were sent to the border?

    The answer is: Nothing, at least nothing productive.
    The biggest mistake the United States ever made was to convert the US government from a limited-government republic into a national-security state. The Founding Fathers and the Framers had it right. The best thing that the American people could ever do is dismantle their national-security state governmental structure and restore a limited-government republic to our land. That would naturally entail the dismantling, not the reform, of the NSA, CIA, Pentagon, and what former President Eisenhower labeled the military-industrial-congressional complex.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-12-2018 at 07:52 PM.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    You know you just proved that you were doing a straw man argument right? "Let's hate all immigrants rhetoric" != limit the number of immigrants that come in.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bullshyt. I said no such thing.
    That is the only way to interpret what you said, since I didn't say "Hate all Immigrants" then you must have used that as hyperbola when referring to my insistence that we control immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You can limit immigration without being an asswipe about it. Case in point all of the hand wringing in the thread about the immigrant politician who happened to be a democrat. "OMG! They're going to make us all socialist!" Total hyperbole which ignored immigrant politicians from the other side of the spectrum.
    They vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat and if we don't stop the flood they will turn us into a communist country.

    A handful of exceptions doesn't change that.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You know you just proved that you were doing a straw man argument right? "Let's hate all immigrants rhetoric" != limit the number of immigrants that come in.
    I proved that you were using a strawman, nobody said "Let's hate all immigrants", you just made it up.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You make the erroneous assumption that somebody against stopping every single person from entering the country favors letting in anybody who wants to come. Ron Paul is not for open borders but opposes Trump's wall as well as some of his other proposals.

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...ecurity-state/
    Another strawman.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I proved that you were using a strawman, nobody said "Let's hate all immigrants", you just made it up.
    True, you don't mind those who promise they will vote the same way you do.

    They vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat and if we don't stop the flood they will turn us into a communist country.
    But what if they lied? Should party loyalty be a requirement to becoming a resident and a citizen? Are differing viewpoints to be banned for those who would like to come here? What if those in power enacted such laws- and your view turned out to be the one now outlawed?

    Who would you be willing to let in?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-12-2018 at 08:02 PM.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    True, you don't mind those who promise they will vote the same way you do. But what if they lied? Should party loyalty be a requirement to becoming a resident and a citizen? Are differing viewpoints to be banned for those who would like to come here? What if those in power enacted such laws- and your view turned out to be the one now outlawed?

    Who would you be willing to let in?
    I have always said that immigration should be limited by number so that assimilation can take place because philosophical restrictions aren't possible.

    If philosophical restrictions were possible we could let in far more immigrants, there is no possible moral objection to choosing who we allow to join the group based on them sharing the founding principles of the group.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That would make a great joke tweet for DJTvsg to post.
    It would resonate well with dannno and anyone else who still thinks that it's October, 2016.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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