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  1. #31
    Let Powell raise rates to 15%.

    If he does so, he'll be my lifelong hero.

    ...I'll wait.



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  3. #32
    ...waiting indefintely...



    ....might shed some light.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 06-22-2020 at 11:31 PM.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Out of nowhere, waves of felonious behavior have swept across America and there has been very little response from "the state". Antifa riots, loots, burns properties, endanger lives, and few seem willing to stand against them.

    The "governments" in most of these locales appear unwilling to stop the felons, which raises the immediate question of what, precisely, is going on? How did we go from near police-state to borderline chaos in so many places, almost literally over night? What is going on here? Why would police stand down? Why are the local residents standing down? I see almost zero evidence of anyone defending against the criminal element called "antifa".

    It seems clear what is happening - we are being sent down a cattle chute that leads to a fork, one labeled "war", the other "capitulation". Who, and I mean what are the names, stands to profit by this? Should they not be identified to the greatest degree possible?
    There are multiple agendas at play, all under the umbrella of the left. The main task at hand is to defeat Trump. For Democrat deep state leadership from the Obama era, this is doubly urgent because of the possibility of Obamagate actually resulting in prosecutions. They need to distract in order to ride it out. Are all Democrats in on it? No, they don't have to be. For them, it’s sufficient for all of them to agree that it will help Democrats. More power, bigger government is the goal, with global socialism as the final grand prize.

    Then there are the communists and anarchists that want revolution, but they just act as useful idiots for the above interests. Likewise there are elements that just want their payout, like those that want reparations.

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Let Powell raise rates to 15%.

    If he does so, he'll be my lifelong hero.

    ...I'll wait.
    Why would he do that? They are doing everything in their power to keep rates near zero, even if they have to buy and overpay for every debt instrument issued.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Democracy breeds socialism, which will always collapse on itself.

    And then we will have non-democratic government, which tends toward liberalism.

    E.G.

    Gen. Pinochet saved Chile from a bolshevik revolution.

    The same is likely to occur, sooner or later, in this country.

    It sounds quite insane at the moment, I appreciate that, but wait a while; it'll sound real good in a decade.

    P.S. If you meant monetary policy, then it's simple; liquidate zombie firms, let them fail.
    So, in some possible future, at some indeterminate point, a vicious and corrupt dictator might emerge and rescue us? I'm not sure that Pinochet was a friend of liberty. I don't mean to be cute, the point I am making is liberty is only growing weaker. Or, like, after the country falls apart entirely, freedom will ring then--maybe, if? Nope. How, after the Greek Polis, long did it take for anything approaching liberty to be witnessed on earth in significant quantities and qualities? Hell, maybe after one thousand years of slavery people will take back their rights... Hell, might be all that can be hoped for.

    And Pinochet was backed by the gigantic might of the United States. Who shall prop up our Pinochet?

    We need Cinncinatus, not Pinochet. There is none. We are alone.
    Last edited by bv3; 06-23-2020 at 12:09 AM.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So, where are your Scottish/Kiwi Trump Train memes you were so obnoxious with only a few years ago, hmm? Maybe you should be a bit more understanding with the dense. You might educate a few more if you can remember your own state of venomous denial.
    That was due to your own false opinion you had about my beliefs or anyone that simply agreed with what Trump was saying. For example you could not simply see it was support of the Trump/Sessions Immigration plan that was released which I still support. Same as when the far left releases something I agree with. I am not going to oppose or approve of polices based simply by the party or person promoting it.

    Your protest against those that simply agreed with this policy I would say was venomous. That is not to say I embellished my support and beliefs a bit when the accusations got absurdly out of hand.

  9. #37
    When the opposition party knows they're going to lose an election they cannot afford to lose, what do they do?

    Do whatever they can to contest the results?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by revgen View Post
    When the opposition party knows they're going to lose an election they cannot afford to lose, what do they do?

    Do whatever they can to contest the results?
    That doesnt work.

    They rigged every local and state Primary against Ron Paul both times he ran. Many of us were there at those conventions.

    This is a Coup De Taut. Plain and simple. This is the Leftists (Modern Nazi / Socialist / Communists) taking over the country and blaming the people who gave us the best system that ever existed for the failures brought on by Leftist policies.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's ending.
    It has ended for a while. It's clear that the law is arbitrary and even your career and home only exist at the state's permission.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The main task at hand is to defeat Trump.
    Mary, mother of God.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    Seriously. They're quite insistent about it. They're running a senile child molester against the man.

    What will it take to make people see they do not want him out? If running a senile child molesting gaffe machine doesn't do it, what will?

    Trump makes too many Republicans too happy while he prints trillions and trillions of dollars. No overt Democrat could get away with it. Trump gives them an excuse to stage riots.

    They don't want him out. If they did, they wouldn't be running a senile, blatantly corrupt, gaffe-a-minute child molester against him.

    They know that crap won't play in Peoria. They aren't stupid. They know.

    I know it's hard to face the reality that Trump's just another tool. But my God. They're running a child molester against him.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-23-2020 at 06:54 AM.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Mary, mother of God.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    Seriously. They're quite insistent about it. They're running a senile child molester against the man.

    What will it take to make people see they do not want him out? If running a senile child molesting gaffe machine doesn't do it, what will?

    Trump makes too many Republicans too happy while he prints trillions and trillions of dollars. No overt Democrat could get away with it. Trump gives them an excuse to stage riots.

    They don't want him out. If they did, they wouldn't be running a senile, blatantly corrupt, gaffe-a-minute child molester against him.

    They know that crap won't play in Peoria. They aren't stupid. They know.

    I know it's hard to face the reality that Trump's just another tool. But my God. They're running a child molester against him.

    Americans never do learn from mistakes. I guess ignorance for some really is bliss.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    That doesnt work.

    They rigged every local and state Primary against Ron Paul both times he ran. Many of us were there at those conventions.

    This is a Coup De Taut. Plain and simple. This is the Leftists (Modern Nazi / Socialist / Communists) taking over the country and blaming the people who gave us the best system that ever existed for the failures brought on by Leftist policies.
    Nailed it.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Mary, mother of God.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    Seriously. They're quite insistent about it. They're running a senile child molester against the man.

    What will it take to make people see they do not want him out? If running a senile child molesting gaffe machine doesn't do it, what will?

    Trump makes too many Republicans too happy while he prints trillions and trillions of dollars. No overt Democrat could get away with it. Trump gives them an excuse to stage riots.

    They don't want him out. If they did, they wouldn't be running a senile, blatantly corrupt, gaffe-a-minute child molester against him.

    They know that crap won't play in Peoria. They aren't stupid. They know.

    I know it's hard to face the reality that Trump's just another tool. But my God. They're running a child molester against him.
    Yup. First they want to do the same thing to Trump that they did to Bernie Sanders both in 2016 and 2020. Use whatever means necessary in their arsenal of voting and election tricks to take him out. Then, if they succeed, they want the people after some self reflection to realize "hey, we voted in this child molester, through the democratic process, this is on me and my neighbor, it was our choice, and we happily accepted that choice, progress, we did the right thing, we are America".

    But honestly at this point, the 2020 election is in doubt of occurring. We'll see what happens, but it's not looking favorable, especially with the recently increased marketing push for the sequel coming to a town near you: Covid-1984 Part 2: Trust Us This Time, No.. Seriously

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    ... How did we go from near police-state to borderline chaos in so many places, almost literally over night? What is going on here? Why would police stand down? Why are the local residents standing down? I see almost zero evidence of anyone defending against the criminal element called "antifa".
    While all the reasons may not be clear, one thing is clear that nothing happens in a vacuum.

    The backdrop of this is a near agreement between both major political parties' leadership on supporting social justice/BLM campaigns, minoritoes outreach (even a mini competition perhaps) probably first time in US history (without having looked into Abe Lincoln era political dynamics). So there is high political risk for those taking a stance against such a power cluster. BLM activists being invited to Republican White House these days and causing US government threat against a foreign country like Sweden is another indicator how political culture in Washington has radically changed after Obama/Trump elections.

    Wrt 'police state', such force application seems to be geared towards terrorism threats mostly and protests like these going on currently are being given lot of room (countless reports of police, national guard, top national leaders taking a knee alongwith protesters). One recent example from this week (unconfirmed), a Republican run KY locale according to POTUS supporters saw proterers stopping MAGA crowd from joining POTUS rally in Tulsa.

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While all the reasons may not be clear, one thing is clear that nothing happens in a vacuum.

    The backdrop of this is a near agreement between both major political parties' leadership on supporting social justice/BLM campaigns, minoritoes outreach (even a mini competition perhaps) probably first time in US history (without having looked into Abe Lincoln era political dynamics). So there is high political risk for those taking a stance against such a power cluster. BLM activists being invited to Republican White House these days and causing US government threat against a foreign country like Sweden is another indicator how political culture in Washington has radically changed after Obama/Trump elections.

    Wrt 'police state', such force application seems to be geared towards terrorism threats mostly and protests like these going on currently are being given lot of room (countless reports of police, national guard, top national leaders taking a knee alongwith protesters). One recent example from this week (unconfirmed), a Republican run KY locale according to POTUS supporters saw proterers stopping MAGA crowd from joining POTUS rally in Tulsa.

    All of the reason are CRYSTAL CLEAR.

    It has nothing to do with riots or coronavirus. Those are merely mechanisms to implement full blown totalitarian police state apparatus, not just in the U.S., but Globally.

    As I suggested to you before, you need to Follow the Money which has already been done for you. All of the information has been posted here on RPF numerous times. But, it seems people are clutching on to that left/right paradigm and the information is completely ignored.

    It is beyond ridiculous that people are still discussing, speculating and looking for reasons/answers when the information is staring you directly in the face.

    On that note, say goodbye to liberty. If you and others on this forum don't get it by now, there is no way on earth the rest of the population will. I mean jeez, just look at your and @Champ responses.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    On that note, say goodbye to liberty. If you and others on this forum don't get it by now, there is no way on earth the rest of the population will.
    Oh, yeah, they will get it. They'll get their noses rubbed in it. It'll be too late. But we'll all be getting it good and hard.

    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-23-2020 at 10:09 AM.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Mary, mother of God.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    Seriously. They're quite insistent about it. They're running a senile child molester against the man.

    What will it take to make people see they do not want him out? If running a senile child molesting gaffe machine doesn't do it, what will?

    Trump makes too many Republicans too happy while he prints trillions and trillions of dollars. No overt Democrat could get away with it. Trump gives them an excuse to stage riots.

    They don't want him out. If they did, they wouldn't be running a senile, blatantly corrupt, gaffe-a-minute child molester against him.

    They know that crap won't play in Peoria. They aren't stupid. They know.

    I know it's hard to face the reality that Trump's just another tool. But my God. They're running a child molester against him.
    I'd put the odds at 50/50 that Biden is the actual candidate by the time the election takes place. Biden's people have emphasized that that the VP choice will be ready to go as POTUS on day one. We'll see what happens at the "convention". They could drop Biden there. Or Biden could announce anytime before the election that he is stepping down for medical reasons, his VP pick will take over, and they could announce the new VP at the same time. Or just a promise that he will step down right after the inauguration. "Vote for Uncle Joe! He deserves to win before he retires!"

    As for the riots, they could help to defeat Trump in an election. Or they could force or bait Trump into doing something that will defeat him in the election. And as for the first four years, Trump could do something so they can impeach him, and maybe even convict him in the Senate.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Mary, mother of God.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    They're running a senile child molester against him.

    Seriously. They're quite insistent about it. They're running a senile child molester against the man.

    What will it take to make people see they do not want him out? If running a senile child molesting gaffe machine doesn't do it, what will?

    Trump makes too many Republicans too happy while he prints trillions and trillions of dollars. No overt Democrat could get away with it. Trump gives them an excuse to stage riots.

    They don't want him out. If they did, they wouldn't be running a senile, blatantly corrupt, gaffe-a-minute child molester against him.

    They know that crap won't play in Peoria. They aren't stupid. They know.

    I know it's hard to face the reality that Trump's just another tool. But my God. They're running a child molester against him.

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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I'd put the odds at 50/50 that Biden is the actual candidate by the time the election takes place.
    Where's the percentage in it?

    If getting him out was their intention, they'd have given Kirsten Gillibrand or someone equally viable all the publicity, just as they did Obama in '08, and with the economy crashing, the incumbent would have been easy to vote out. Hell, after having their hopes dashed by Hilldog because she's a seriously frightening criminal, American females (fifty-what percent of the voting public?) would have jumped on Gillibrand like a dog on a bone.

    Why would they make it hard on themselves? It's Biden's turn? Bull. It wasn't Obama's turn in '08; he'd only just got there. When will it be Schumer's turn? Don't buy it.

    Getting Trump out would be easy. Looks to me like they're working hard to keep him in.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-23-2020 at 12:09 PM.
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  24. #50
    Whats really going on? A Communist Revolution. Its been going on since before most of us where born, and if it wasn't so tragic, you'd almost have to admire it. Think about the decades of planning this took. And How amazing it is that all those crazy conspiracies you heard from your weird friend turned out to be true. These people infiltrated universities, public schools, various bureaucracies, and even some in the military. The youth that was exposed to them at schools went out into the world and a few of them became highly successful technocratic oligarchs. Some of them are city councilmen, CEOs, congressmen, mayors. Everywhere there is authority, that's where they are.

    Those that didn't attain that level of success became the disenfranchised. Paying off a four year degree on a minimum wage job made them bitter, and maybe it should have. They were told that if they went to college, life would be good for them. It was a lie, they didn't get high paying jobs handed to them after graduating, but they did get convinced that socialism was the way of the future.

    Over the last 10 years or so, the technocrats gave them free platforms with which they could connect to each other and organize at blinding speed. Social media was the hottest new drug, highly addictive, and able to monitor your every move, and in some cases, predict your behavior. All that was needed now was a massive, economically crushing disaster to widen the rift between people.

    Covid19, to these people, was either a gift from the heavens, or a manufactured disaster. Either way, they took full advantage of it. Social Media began censoring speech in a way not seen before, fear spread instantly across the country. Two week illegal lock-downs lasted two months. People got arrested for working.......working. With no money, no jobs, and very little hope of being able to provide for themselves, desperation began to set in. The economy was wrecked. Our government, as always and without regard to future consequences, felt the need to do "something". Four trillion dollars later, we are now staring down both barrels of a monetary crisis. What little money people have, is now in serious danger of becoming worthless.

    Then George Floyd was killed, and the angry mob was unleashed. BLM and their Antifa allies outed themselves as Marxist revolutionaries, began to destroy our historical monuments, burn businesses to the ground, and seize control of a major downtown area in a major US city. Even more crazy than that is that the leadership in this country is doing nothing about. Even the Mayor of Seattle out-right endorsed the takeover. Every reporter on CNN and MSNBC called this one big peaceful protest, even as buildings burnt down behind them.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, that's just what happened in the last three months......

    They will not stop there. If history has taught us anything, it's that once Marxists are done with Statues, they will start censoring movies, banning books, they will try to make it impossible to practice religion. Which wouldn't be hard, since the Churches in a lot of areas are empty right now, and utterly defenseless.

    There is no doubt about what is happening here. Trying to "figure it out", or "follow the money" is a waste of time that will lead us all on a path to ruin. The battle lines have been drawn, and everyone knows it, even if no one wants to say it.

    So why haven't heavily armed conservative "everymen" shown up to shut this $#@! down? It could be for a couple of reasons.

    Conservatives, for the most part, do not live in cities. To them this is like watching a five year old trash his own birthday party. They wouldn't go to the city on a normal day, why go now and get hurt or killed? Democrats destroying their own power base isn't worth intervention to them. They likely won't act unless the danger moves closer to them. This actually was proven in a couple of areas when BLM and Antifa bused rioters out to smaller communities and were met with entire towns armed to the teeth.

    Maybe it's because no real leader has emerged with the ranks yet. No one is rallying them together to make a show of force.

    Maybe they are waiting for a Ft. Sumter moment. On single galvanizing event to wake up the masses.

    Maybe they think they have too much to loose. House, kids, nice truck. Its a lot to risk just to put some mentally deranged kids in their place.

    Or, maybe they have lost the will to act. We've all heard tough guy talk, "Antifa ever does that $#@! in my town, they'll regret it!". But have you noticed in recent weeks that goal post has started to move? Last week it was "if they keep going after these historical statues we are gonna loose it." They brought down a Statue of George Washington, spray painted 1619 on it, wrapped his head in the flag, and set it on fire, after they took a piss on it. Conservatives did nothing. Now I hear "if they go after churches people are gonna die". I have doubts.

    At some point, libertarians and conservatives are going to forced to do something. Because right now, the left is getting every single thing they are asking for. Everything. They are now openly calling for attacks on churches, and religious works of art, and more than once has it been said that "conservatives need to be rehabilitated". Does that sound like a group of people that can be debated? That can be Reasoned with?

    You might think you are not at war with them, but they are at war with you.
    Last edited by aravoth; 06-23-2020 at 06:18 PM.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Let Powell raise rates to 15%.

    If he does so, he'll be my lifelong hero.

    ...I'll wait.
    Let's see .15 X 30 trillion=4.5 trillion. Current annual revenue = 3 trillion.

    We're gonna be short 1.5 trillion .... on the interest payment alone.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I didn't say anarchy was a modern aberration. I didn't say the misuse of the word was a modern aberration. The political operatchiks who killed McKinley and Franz Ferdinand were both labeled anarchists. Neither one was even remotely similar to anarchists. They were mislabeled anarchists to demonize small government philosophy, because never let a crisis go to waste.

    Your quibbling about whether my conversations with people increasingly sick of the District of Criminals indicates the trend, or your impression gained from internet trolls and MSM sensationalism of paid protestors indicates the trend, is irrelevant. Those who misuse the prefix anarcho- to describe totalitarians are creating oxymorons for the benefit of the totalitarians.

    You've complained about the Ministry of Truth pushing all conversation to the left by redefining words. Well of all the words we need to keep their meaning now, the word describing minimized government may be the most important. It sits squarely where the conversation needs to be.

    If you want to be their useful idiot, I can't stop you. But I will never acknowledge lame excuses for doing so.
    It's not a redefinition. It's the ancient Greek definition used by the most famous philosophers ever. If anyone's redefining it, it's ancaps.

    Anarchism as a philosophy was a leftist word long before Rothbard came along. Same with libertarianism. I don't see how using a term coined by a conservative dissident that refers to the systemic failure of government on two different ends of the spectrum is being a useful idiot for the state. I don't think you could cogently explain it either.
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

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  27. #53
    I think we can at the very least all agree, they want a revolution to come. Most agree that it is a Marxist/Communist revolution. People that hate, support, or are indifferent to Trump are all saying this. Even the people destroying statues as we speak are openly saying this. At least we can generally agree on this after the years and years of bitter squabbling over nearly every single topic.

    Maybe they are trying to use Trump to bring in this communistic revolution.

    Maybe they are trying to defeat Trump in order to bring a communistic revolution.

    Maybe none of the above are correct and it's something else. Everyone thinks that with 100% certainty that their version and take on the situation is what is in fact happening. No one honestly knows for sure.

    Whatever the case is, revolution appears to be what we are facing now. Until we start seeing some resistance, not from government, but by the people, in militias, as it was defined in the constitution, in the spirit of resistance during the first revolution that preceded the constitution, defending what they believe in, they will continue taking ground like aravoth mentioned. So far it has been entirely unopposed.

    One thing that seems pretty apparent is they are trying to demoralize us every step of the way, and sadly many libertarians have fallen to this malaise. This is part of why their advances are remaining unopposed, people are either afraid or have given up hope. They are also using these boards to demoralize you too if you frequent it. You can see the fear in the way they discuss and word things.

    Please, reject this, you have to stand up not only for yourself, but for everyone else if there is going to be any kind of future. You have to reclaim your humanity and believe that we are going to be able to stand up to whatever is coming next, including if it takes your life. Like I mentioned in my first post of the thread, failure to do this will result in the permanent loss of whatever potential, freedom, and liberty we currently have and anything down the line in the days ahead. Anyone that says "we are screwed and it's time to start heading for the hills" or anything else along those lines is also demoralizing and not helping you in any way. If you find yourself saying similar things, you are demoralizing yourself and everyone around you. If you can't be strong enough for yourself, then be strong for everyone else.

    Ron Paul did not teach us all of the lessons he understood so that just a few years down the line, we could bathe in our own sorrow. He preached hope and optimism every single time he spoke. We should be bathing in hope. And if you never recognized him doing such, then you missed the point. It would be great to hear more of his example demonstrated here, it would make my day. We haven't seen much of that in years.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    As I suggested to you before, you need to Follow the Money which has already been done for you. All of the information has been posted here on RPF numerous times. But, it seems people are clutching on to that left/right paradigm and the information is completely ignored.

    It is beyond ridiculous that people are still discussing, speculating and looking for reasons/answers when the information is staring you directly in the face.
    Cuz top donor of MAGA revolution (with motto of "so much winning that you'll get tired of it") is globalist social liberal, many GOPAites had implied 'follow the money' doctrine no longer implies. But I tend to agree with your point, it still applies. Left/right ( though not like the skin pigment based) paradigms do seem bit meaningless now but tend to creep back in discussion arguments as they are deeply entrenched in thinking of many in audience here even if not everyone.
    I may have overlooked the follow the money connection to on going BLM/social justice campaigns mostly supported by MAGA White House and Dems, will try to look for it in threads. If you can easily post a link here, would be help also.
    That said, comments in that post still apply though even if not the main catalyst behind breathtaking changes taking place near the end of GOP-Adelson funded "Make America Great" Presiedncy.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Cuz top donor of MAGA revolution (with motto of "so much winning that you'll get tired of it") is globalist social liberal, many GOPAites had implied 'follow the money' doctrine no longer implies. But I tend to agree with your point, it still applies. Left/right ( though not like the skin pigment based) paradigms do seem bit meaningless now but tend to creep back in discussion arguments as they are deeply entrenched in thinking of many in audience here even if not everyone.
    I may have overlooked the follow the money connection to on going BLM/social justice campaigns mostly supported by MAGA White House and Dems, will try to look for it in threads. If you can easily post a link here, would be help also.
    That said, comments in that post still apply though even if not the main catalyst behind breathtaking changes taking place near the end of GOP-Adelson funded "Make America Great" Presiedncy.

    For starters, each and every article should be looked at. Government has NO business in healthcare PERIOD:


    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-Coronavirus

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Vaccine-Trial

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...datory-Vaccine

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...’-Agenda

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...on-Plan”
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Antifa is almost exclusively confined to the cities, the cities are run by outright communists. These people have been intensely indoctrinated for decades, and those pulling the strings feel they've crossed the Rubicon and their time has come. I think we're in for a hell of a ride and I wouldn't be looking for accountability for those orchestrating it.
    That is sort of how it feels.

    Well, long distance talent can make Themme accountable if they dare show their faces in public.

    Another thing: what we are experiencing seems to me to be a measurement action. Theye want to know just how softened up we really are. Theye concoct this Covid idiocy (though there could be other things behind it), make it verily outrageous and sit back to see what our response will be.

    Thus far, I estimate that we have failed miserably, to Theire endless delight and perhaps even mild astonishment at what they have accomplished.

    I am wondering if we have entered a new era - that of progressively turning up the heat in large increments and with increasingly outlandish fashion in the attempt to discern not even where the boundary rests, but now whether one even exists. Or are we so degraded, and I submit that most of us are, that there is no abasement to which we can be subjected that would elicit a response even hinting of the least whiff of self-respect.

    In other words, we are being anally probed to determine our "condition" and I suspect Theye are walking around with raging boners in anticipation of some coup de grace they perhaps have in mind for us.

    And I STILL wonder whether Trump is in on the joke. I just cannot figure him. Four years in, almost, and nobody of real significance has been prosecuted, so at this point I am having some grave doubts. At the very least he could have driven a stake through Hillary's heart, but no. My credulity is now stretched to breaking where those who worship him claim he's working his master plan. It still may be true, but if so then I guess he's just WAY better than am I at this sort of thing. I remain marginally hopeful of being proven the village idiot, the appellation of which I will gladly bear in the event he snares them all and publicly executes the lot of them, Nürnberg-style, icy cold and clinical. No anger. No rage. No hatred. No glee. Just indifference.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Where's the percentage in it?

    If getting him out was their intention, they'd have given Kirsten Gillibrand or someone equally viable all the publicity, just as they did Obama in '08, and with the economy crashing, the incumbent would have been easy to vote out. Hell, after having their hopes dashed by Hilldog because she's a seriously frightening criminal, American females (fifty-what percent of the voting public?) would have jumped on Gillibrand like a dog on a bone.
    Cannot disagree with this. I'm thinking the Ds want Trump to win so that they can continue to wreck everything to the point that in four more years everyone is so sick of just about everything, they won't vote in a Republican for the next fifty years, giving Themme all the time they need to finish up and call the world Theire's.

    Why would they make it hard on themselves? It's Biden's turn? Bull.
    Yeah, Theye are FAR too wily and pragmatic to subscribe to that brand of weak-tea mentality.

    It wasn't Obama's turn in '08; he'd only just got there. When will it be Schumer's turn? Don't buy it.
    Obama was the convenient useful black idiot, whose utility to drive a vast chunk of Americans further into imbecility was measured and deemed right at the time. Given how well the play succeeded, I'd say they were on the money. Americans are pretty well ruined in what looks to be close to sufficient measure such that Theye will soon be able to do as they please, regardless of how many guns we may have.

    Getting Trump out would be easy. Looks to me like they're working hard to keep him in.
    Not sure it would be easy, but doable perhaps to a thin margin. OTOH... who can say for certain?
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    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    That doesnt work.

    They rigged every local and state Primary against Ron Paul both times he ran. Many of us were there at those conventions.

    This is a Coup De Taut. Plain and simple. This is the Leftists (Modern Nazi / Socialist / Communists) taking over the country and blaming the people who gave us the best system that ever existed for the failures brought on by Leftist policies.
    All the while, "good" Americans stand idly by, mouths agape in horror and disgust at what they're witnessing, expecting someone else to do what they say needs doing.

    Until we decide we're not going quietly into that good night and that we are the solution to the trouble, the trudge to oblivion will continue.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  34. #59
    There really shouldn't be any confusion as to what is happening right now. The left is trying to get rid of trump so they can start implementing the socialist communist wet dream. They have allied with BLM because they know the Democrats cease to exist without the black vote and they made a deal with them for more black privilege. They unleashed Soros Antifa into the mix to start the fires burning...lol. It's all just to undermine Trump. They want him out and they want to make a statement to the right. It's not going to happen this cycle though. trump is right on this. the silent majority will win again. The republican supporters have had about enough. They are disgusted and pissed off now. I think the statues are what really did it. I see it on FB, twitter and other places. Everyone knows It's mostly in Democrat cities that the police are being ordered to stand back. They are also the only ones who are continuing the rona lock downs. The conservative supporters (Trump supporters) are beginning to strike back. They aren't letting the liberal apologists push them around with their white guilt and calling them all racist anymore. I have seen theis change take place over the last couple of weeks. They organized a rally to take back CHOP on July 4th....lol....it has a pretty good following right now and growing stronger every day. Now the mayor says she is going to end it...lol....we will see. if not, there's gonna be a fight on the 4th. This coming election will be very interesting. Will many of those Democrat mayors and Governors be replaced. I think so. Just look at Seattle and CHAZ, CHOP or whatever they call themselves now...lol....The Mayor and her summer of love didn't work out very well. I see the comments on twitter from the actual residents of seattle....they aren't very happy with her at all. New Yorkers are pissed!!! The only thing that will give the Democrats any kind of a chance will be the mail in ballots. They have already started with the mass fraud that is going to take place. I will say without a doubt that this will turn out to be the most corrupted election that has ever taken place in this country. Would be great to see Obama and Biden indicted just before the election. It is a real possibility. That will in flame the left. I see all of this as a coup right now.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by showpan View Post
    There really shouldn't be any confusion as to what is happening right now. The left is trying to get rid of trump so they can start implementing the socialist communist wet dream.
    Now, see, everyone? This is why Trump was shoved down our throats in 2016 with that 24/7 barrage of publicity on a thousand channels. Republicans actually think they aren't implementing their communist wet dream. The nation is shut down, universal basic income is a reality, small businesses are failing wholesale, big businesses are getting freshly printed money by the truckload, church services are illegal, mandatory vaccines are coming, one way signs are installed in every grocery store aisle, you can tell the law abiding because they wear masks, cops are about to go full federal, and California cops are flying helicopters to the middle of nowhere to arrest campers for not "social distancing" (one of many oxymorons everyone is repeating with a straight face). And Republicans think the communist wet dream is not already 75% implemented, because $#@! God, in Trump they Trust.

    I know all you Republicans think I'm terribly rude to carry on this way. But you're quickly running out of time to wake up and smell the coffee. Denial is a luxury you can no longer afford. The deed will be done before the election.
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