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    Yale shocker: 29.5 million illegal immigrants, 3X higher than Census number

    The illegal immigrant population is as high as 29.5 million, far more than the 11 million accepted by experts and the government, according to an explosive new report from three Yale University experts.
    “Our results lead us to the conclusion that the widely accepted estimate of 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the United States is too small. Our model estimates indicate that the true number is likely to be larger, with an estimated 95 percent probability interval ranging from 16.2 to 29.5 million undocumented immigrants,” said their report published by PLOS One, an academic journal.




    The authors from Yale School of Management, Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, Jonathan S. Feinstein, Edward H. Kaplan, said the average in their new model is about 22 million, exactly twice the number accepted by the Census Bureau and other experts.
    “The mean estimate based on our simulation analysis is 22.1 million, essentially double the current widely accepted estimate,” they wrote.

    More at: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-census-number

    And it's still probably low.
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    LOL. A muslim and two jews from Skull and Bones Univ. putting out a report about the number of hispanics.

    Can't make this stuff up. Oh wait...

    I remember when 30 million immigrants was the official number 10 years ago.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post

    I remember when 30 million immigrants was the official number 10 years ago.
    It's probably on the low side.
    Do you have a link to that "official" number 10 years ago?
    Because the official number I have seen for more than 10 years was 10-12 Million, they thought we were stupid enough to believe it wasn't going up in all that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's probably on the low side.
    Do you have a link to that "official" number 10 years ago?
    Because the official number I have seen for more than 10 years was 10-12 Million, they thought we were stupid enough to believe it wasn't going up in all that time.
    It's all bull$#@! made up numbers. Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here, some are lazy, most aren't. All of our families were immigrants at some point.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    It's all bull$#@! made up numbers.
    On the low side to try and deny the great replacement. (except when they want to brag about it)

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here,
    Too many.

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    some are lazy, most aren't.
    Irrelevant, by a vast margin the majority are communists.


    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    All of our families were immigrants at some point.
    Irrelevant, we have a right to preserve liberty for ourselves and our posterity, foreigners have no right to come here.

    You claim to oppose the Catholics and the Zionists so why do you support their agenda to invade America with millions of hostile foreigners in order to destroy it and pave the way for their globalist communist empire?
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    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    All of our families were immigrants at some point.
    Yup. By the millions.

    Let's ask these guys how that worked for them and their way of life:

    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yup. By the millions.

    Let's ask these guys how that worked for them and their way of life:

    There's a lot of hispanics invading the far reachs of NH fishing boat harbors?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    There's a lot of hispanics invading the far reachs of NH fishing boat harbors?
    No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

    Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

    The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

    Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

    The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.
    Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...
    Lewiston:


    Newest politician from Lewiston:


    Portland:
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-15-2019 at 04:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...
    Seriously, you have not read anything of Catholic Charities, for instance?

    How they take tax money to encourage and facilitate central Africans to migrate to places like Maine, specifically because there are "too many white people" there?
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Ya gotta hand to our enemies...they are nothing, if not clever.

    Convince them, through feminism, weirdosexualism, climate change alarmism and atheism that having children and continuing your heritage is racist and destructive.

    Then use their own systems and tax money and guilt to overwhelm them with third world invaders.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-15-2019 at 04:27 AM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    What are the odds;

    I was at a Nevada casino for 3 days in August, the tenants/hotel guests were at least 85% foreigners, non-whites.

    The foreigners appeared to be guests staying the weekend , using the pool , not sure what else, but didn't see them so much
    gambling, at shows, or at the restaurants.

    30 million is probably a conservative figure, there is undoubtedly an invasion, encouraged by our own
    govt and sjw socialists.

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    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-15-2019 at 04:46 AM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    If we would just provide them with books from Ludwig Von Mises, Ayn Rand, Milton Freidman, etc. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc would all be paradises!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Ooh- dozens! We will be replaced soon!

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    Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?
    We are currently exercising triage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    We are currently exercising triage.
    Better to exorcise it. An ounce of prevention in this case would actually be worth a ton of cure.

    Migration is a great big pain in the ass. It takes a lot to get people to even consider it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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    We should deport all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Better to exorcise it. An ounce of prevention in this case would actually be worth a ton of cure.

    Migration is a great big pain in the ass. It takes a lot to get people to even consider it.

    Go get (((them))). Hope you aren’t suicided...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Seriously, you have not read anything of Catholic Charities, for instance?

    How they take tax money to encourage and facilitate central Africans to migrate to places like Maine, specifically because there are "too many white people" there?
    Thanks for digging up the pics. Not quite what I asked for but it is apparently true that Lewiston ME has added 5000 Africans since 2001 to a town of ~35,000. I don't think it's quite the breathless existential crisis being painted though. As I've said in other immigration related threads, if you really think there's an existential crisis underway, there's only one answer. Start f*ckin'. Since it's a Vatican directed initiative, as you allude to, immigration as a whole is not going to stop so the only solution is the biological one. There is no political solution. There is only the natural one.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Go get (((them))). Hope you aren’t suicided...
    Go get who?

    acptulsa: To stem the flow of sub-Saharan migrants, stop bombing their homes to rubble.

    Danke: Go get (((them))).

    Excuse me for asking, but wtf are you talking about?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-15-2019 at 02:17 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    It's all bull$#@! made up numbers. Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here, some are lazy, most aren't. All of our families were immigrants at some point.
    When my ancestors came to the US (mostly from Italy) there was no Welfare state,Affirmative action & we didn't cry to the Government because of "racism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?
    But that would make the President responsible! We must blame somebody else for our problems!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

    Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

    The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.
    Africa accounts for only about ten percent of immigrants to the US. Asia and North America combine for about three quarters of them (with about 37% of all immigrants each)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    When my ancestors came to the US (mostly from Italy) there was no Welfare state,Affirmative action & we didn't cry to the Government because of "racism".
    So we can blame your ancestors for what has transpired since then?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    We should deport all of them.
    Better to house them with sympathetic politicians first.

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