Trump just won re-election

[jmdrake]

I'm not a Trump fan. I don't love him...I don't hate him. The democrats have imploded with Hillary attacking one of their own (Tulsi Gabbard) for being a "Russian agent" simply because she tells the truth about Syria. Well...now Elizabeth Warren is having to grudgingly admit Trump is right about the need to get out of Syria.




Tulsi's fellow democrats were forced to defend her against Hillary's smears.



Bernie Sanders has given the confusing "We should get out of Syria...but stay indefinitely" answer to the Syria question.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...l-out-tomorrow

And of course with the leader of ISIS dead (and I know they are a fake group funded by the Saudi's), Trump's position for leaving is strengthened. (And yes I know he's sent tanks to guard the oil which proves this was never about protecting the Kurds or defeating ISIS which didn't even exist as a fighting force until Hillary armed the Syrian rebels.)

But even before this latest announcement, Trump had secured his re-election by baiting the democrats into foolishly attempting to impeach him.

An article from TheHill.com, which is run by democrats, showed that post announcement of the impeachment inquiry, Trump gained among independents to the point that he is now leading Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and is only behind Biden by 1 point. Expect Biden's numbers to plummet once impeachment heads to the Republican controlled senate and Republicans get to call witnesses.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...t-biden-warren

[Warlord]

I'm not a Trump fan. I don't love him...I don't hate him. The democrats have imploded with Hillary attacking one of their own (Tulsi Gabbard)
An article from TheHill.com, which is run by democrats, showed that post announcement of the impeachment inquiry, Trump gained among independents to the point that he is now leading Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and is only behind Biden by 1 point. Expect Biden's numbers to plummet once impeachment heads to the Republican controlled senate and Republicans get to call witnesses.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...t-biden-warren

TheHill is not run by Democrats, doesn't John Soloman work for them? He's an investigative journalist who has done a lot of work exposing Democrat lies and corruption.

[acptulsa]

The Democrats aren't even trying. When was the last time a sitting president lost an election? Twenty-three years ago? Judging by the quality of candidates that get promoted into the nomination against them--Dole, Kerry, Romney--somebody likes it that way.

[jmdrake]

TheHill is not run by Democrats, doesn't John Soloman work for them? He's an investigative journalist who has done a lot of work exposing Democrat lies and corruption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)
The Hill was founded in 1994 under the company News Communications, Inc. The success of Roll Call was cited as a factor that inspired The Hill.[citation needed] Jerry Finkelstein, the former publisher of the New York Law Journal and The National Law Journal, was the primary shareholder of the company. New York Democratic Representative Gary L. Ackerman was a major shareholder of News Communications.[7]

The Hill's first editor was Martin Tolchin, a former correspondent in the Washington bureau of The New York Times.[4] In 2003, Hugo Gurdon[3] (previously industrial editor at The Daily Telegraph and founding managing editor of the National Post) became The Hill's editor-in-chief. Gurdon turned The Hill from a weekly paper into a daily during congressional sessions. In 2014, Gurdon left for the Washington Examiner and was replaced by his managing editor, Bob Cusack.[1]

The newspaper claims to have more than 24,000 print readers.[3] The Hill is distributed for free in newspaper boxes around the U.S. Capitol building, and mailed directly to all congressional offices.

And democrats can uncover democratic party corruption. Just look at Tulsi Gabbard taking on Hillary Clinton.

[Warlord]

John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist and the Executive VP at The Hill. He previously worked at AP, WaPo, TWT and Circa.

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports?lang=en

John has done tremendous work exposing Democrat hypocrisy and corruption. I doubt he would be a VP at The Hill if it were run by Democrats.

[jmdrake]

John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist and the Executive VP at The Hill. He previously worked at AP, WaPo, TWT and Circa.

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports?lang=en

John has done tremendous work exposing Democrat hypocrisy and corruption. I doubt he would be a VP at The Hill if it were run by Democrats.

"The paper was founded in 1994 by Democratic power broker and New York businessman Jerry Finkelstein and Martin Tolchin, a former correspondent for The New York Times. The paper is owned by the founder's son James A. Finkelstein, who serves as its chairman.[3][7] Bob Cusack serves as the editor-in-chief, Peter Greenberger as the publisher, and Ian Swanson as managing editor.[3]"

I'm not sure why you think someone who exposes democrat party corruption couldn't work for a company founded by a democrat and run by the son of a democrat. Democrats aren't satanists (no offense to satanists). Jerry Finkelstein is a democrat. His son, who currently serves at the chair of The Hill, is a democrat. So what? That not a bad thing. I only pointed this out to say that the information showing Trump pulling ahead with independents is not coming from some alt-right Trump fan-boy website.

[Anti Globalist]

Trump was never in danger of losing his reelection in the first place.

[Warlord]

"The paper was founded in 1994 by Democratic power broker and New York businessman Jerry Finkelstein and Martin Tolchin, a former correspondent for The New York Times. The paper is owned by the founder's son James A. Finkelstein, who serves as its chairman.[3][7] Bob Cusack serves as the editor-in-chief, Peter Greenberger as the publisher, and Ian Swanson as managing editor.[3]"

I'm not sure why you think someone who exposes democrat party corruption couldn't work for a company founded by a democrat and run by the son of a democrat. Democrats aren't satanists (no offense to satanists). Jerry Finkelstein is a democrat. His son, who currently serves at the chair of The Hill, is a democrat. So what? That not a bad thing. I only pointed this out to say that the information showing Trump pulling ahead with independents is not coming from some alt-right Trump fan-boy website.

Sorry drake. You made it sound like TheHill was similar to DailyKos as in it has a leftist agenda. I read it every day and have never detected a bias. They're one of the only outlets that cover Amash and Massie (see Individual case forum and my latest thread there for an example), they also have Solomon as a Vice President so there is clearly no leftist agenda in my opinion.

[jmdrake]

Sorry drake. You made it sound like TheHill was similar to DailyKos as in it has a leftist agenda. I read it every day and have never detected a bias. They're one of the only outlets that cover Amash and Massie (see Individual case forum and my latest thread there for an example), they also have Solomon as a Vice President so there is clearly no leftist agenda in my opinion.

Okay. I consider the Hill a good source of news. Just to be clear, what I am saying is that even a news outlet that was created by a democrat and run by his son is reporting that Trump has made gains against top democrats when it comes to independents. I'm not saying that they are biased against Trump. I'm saying there's no way anyone can argue that they are somehow biased for Trump.

[Created4]

Independent Journalist Sharyl Attkisson also writes for The Hill, and she has also written for Right-wing publications such as Daily Signal, funded by The Heritage Foundation.

The Hill does seem to be one of the least bias media outlets these days....

[enhanced_deficit]

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[enhanced_deficit]

I'm not a Trump fan. I don't love him...I don't hate him. The democrats have imploded with Hillary attacking one of their own (Tulsi Gabbard) for being a "Russian agent" simply because she tells the truth about Syria. Well...now Elizabeth Warren is having to grudgingly admit Trump is right about the need to get out of Syria. ... Tulsi's fellow democrats were forced to defend her against Hillary's smears.

EM.

Tulsi might not be "one of their own" necessarily.
It is also bit odd that MAGA who never misses an opportunity to retaliate against attacks from Dems or even fellow GOP never attacked Tulsi back after she twice called him Saudi Arabia's "bitch" and a "pimp".


Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.
Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.

If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.


Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda. In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.

And of course with the leader of ISIS dead (and I know they are a fake group funded by the Saudi's), Trump's position for leaving is strengthened. (And yes I know he's sent tanks to guard the oil which proves this was never about protecting the Kurds or defeating ISIS which didn't even exist as a fighting force until Hillary armed the Syrian rebels.)

Using this reasoning, then Centcom's position for keeping all the current troops including Trump's 5000 surge still in Afghanistan and sending additional troops to Iraq is stregthened also since there are reports of ISIS surging in Afghanistan, Iraq at the same time it is being "defeated" in Syria.


ET Bureau's irresponsible reporting on US military 'promoting ISIS in Afghanistan'

Return of ISIS: Taliban fight ‘join ISIS in droves’ - ‘US is concerned’

ISIS is once again on the rise, with the terror group now boasting as many as 14,000 fighters in Afghanistan alone.

PUBLISHED: Tue, Sep 17, 2019
ISIS 'developing' with new caliphate claims expert

The Afghan branch of ISIS, known as Islamic State Khorasan (IS-K), is gaining ground as Taliban hardliners angry about peace negotiations with the US have “joined ISIS in droves”, according to experts. IS-K, formed in 2014 and known for its ruthless violence and gory propaganda videos on social media, is believed to be responsible for a surge in violence of ISIS violence this year. The attacks have raised fears of an ISIS resurgence even though the group was defeated in its Iraqi and Syrian heartlands earlier this year.

CENTCOM chief warns 'very worrisome' ISIS presence in Afghanistan

June 14, 2019 A senior U.S. general says that ISIS remains a "very worrisome" presence in Afghanistan, but it is unlikely to mount an attack on the U.S. homeland because it is under strong military pressure. Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, who heads the U.S. Central Command, on June 12 told reporters the extremist group "in Afghanistan certainly has aspirations to attack the United States." "It is our clear judgment that as long as we maintain pressure on them it will be hard for them to do that," he said.


US troops leaving Syria will go to Iraq to fight IS, says Pentagon chief
4 hours ago
Mr Esper told reporters that, under current plans, about 1,000 soldiers would be redeployed to help stop the resurgence of Islamic State (IS). President Donald Trump has previously pledged to bring US troops home.
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50117765

[acptulsa]

I'm not a Trump fan. I don't love him...I don't hate him.

You keep saying that like it will spare you grief. Admittedly, saying you like him generally pisses off half the population and saying you hate him pisses off the other half.

But as usual, telling the truth--that he's the most average, utterly unremarkable president since Ford--pisses everybody off.

[acptulsa]

I'm not a Trump fan. I don't love him...I don't hate him.

You keep saying that like it will spare you grief. Admittedly, saying you like him generally pisses off half the population and saying you hate him pisses off the other half.

But as usual, telling the truth--that he's the most average, utterly unremarkable president since Ford--pisses everybody off.

[Swordsmyth]

TheHill is not run by Democrats, doesn't John Soloman work for them? He's an investigative journalist who has done a lot of work exposing Democrat lies and corruption.

He quit because of their bias.

[Stratovarious]

You keep saying that like it will spare you grief. Admittedly, saying you like him generally pisses off half the population and saying you hate him pisses off the other half.

But as usual, telling the truth--that he's the most average, utterly unremarkable president since Ford--pisses everybody off.

How itf did you come up with this blsht?????

[jmdrake]

You keep saying that like it will spare you grief. Admittedly, saying you like him generally pisses off half the population and saying you hate him pisses off the other half.

But as usual, telling the truth--that he's the most average, utterly unremarkable president since Ford--pisses everybody off.

LOL

[acptulsa]

How itf did you come up with this blsht?????

Simple. I ignore his trash talking and watch what he's doing.

[Swordsmyth]

Simple. I ignore his trash talking and watch what he's doing.

And you still come away all wrong.

[r3volution 3.0]

In a year's time, I seriously doubt voters are going to even remember Hillary criticizing Gabbard or Trump's Syria move (assuming they ever knew about either in the first place). Of the things the OP mentions, only impeachment has a chance to significantly affect the election, and that depends on whether the more politically astute Dems can manage to reign in the radicals, which I suspect they will post-nomination. Nor are any of the ongoing or impending scandal-investigations on either side going to go anywhere or affect anything in any significant way, short of someone being caught on video committing a heinous felony (and maybe not even then). The parties are far too deeply entrenched in their tribal, culture-war camps to be moved by anything like that. It's going to come down to who the Dems nominate and whether the recession begins before the election. The rest is noise, even if occasionally entertaining noise.

[acptulsa]

And you still come away all wrong.

Except on foreign policy, regulation slowed but not rolled back, accelerated printing and borrowing, increased surveillance, and a few little things like that.

[Swordsmyth]

Except on foreign policy, regulation slowed but not rolled back, accelerated printing and borrowing, increased surveillance, and a few little things like that.

Just proving yourself wrong again.

[Origanalist]

Just proving yourself wrong again.

Eh, not really.

[Origanalist]

Don't get all butthurt, it's all in fun.

[pcosmar]

[TER]

Trump won re-election a long time ago.

No way that the best President in many many decades doesn’t do two turns.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump won re-election a long time ago.

No way that the best President in many many decades doesn’t do two turns.

Or more if his coattails are strong enough to win enough to amend the Constitution.

[Origanalist]

Or more if his coattails are strong enough to win enough to amend the Constitution.

No, please no. This country has a very real history of pendulum swings politically.

[enhanced_deficit]

Heaven forbid, could House Dems and Senate GOP defectors take down MAGA even before 2020 elections?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...roblem/600724/

If so, who would be on GOP 2020 ticket in case of such a contingency.. Pence/Sanford/Romney or someone else from GOP-Libertarian wing?

[Pauls' Revere]

Heaven forbid, could House Dems and Senate GOP defectors take down MAGA even before 2020 elections?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...roblem/600724/

If so, who would be on GOP 2020 ticket in case of such a contingency.. Pence/Sanford/Romney or someone else from GOP-Libertarian wing?

Trump could resign and run as an Independent?