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Imagine the gall of some people posting about Ron Paul's positions on a site dedicated to the positions of Ron Paul.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
That's what he said. People are distracted from the serious problems and their real causes, and growling at each other and turning a blind eye toward the real causes and real abuses--including violations of the constitution.
Yeah. That's politics. And the suckers are all suckered in.
His position on the boondogwall is abundantly clear. You ought to know, that was one of the many things that you said was one of the few things he was wrong about. So who's deliberately misrepresenting his view?
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
There are times in everybody's life that haste has made waste. I believe Ron has had very ample time to really think things out, has more knowledge and insight about the inner workings and intent of government than ever before. He is repeatedly solid on his position about the wall, and foreign policy.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
So? Does that make it right we should flood white neighborhoods today until only a few remain that are isolated surrounded by a different culture and language, ultimately becoming foreigners in their own community? Not much difference between European cultures and the Chinese have been pretty strictly in their own little communites.
Violent or non-violent they do not want rapists, murders and various other criminals escaping from their homelands into our communities since immigration was not regulated.
All that we know about.
Policy that promotes choosing citizens in foreign countries over our own is the definition of betrayal of the people living here. We are seeing more and more people calling politicians out for this betrayal and some calling the politicians that do it traitors. Another reason why the politicians that support it days in politics are numbered.
They support allowing the President to use emergency powers to stop an invasion of what was described above. If open borders people really were worried about unbridled Presidential power and face scanning or what have you, they would have been wise not to push their agenda so far to enable those risks. But it is the same people pushing for open borders that typically want those things and unbridled Presidential power for non-emergencies.
Last edited by kahless; 03-07-2019 at 07:40 PM.
You mean like this?
http://web.archive.org/web/200803121...ration-reform/
Originally Posted by Ron Paul 2008 Border Security
Last edited by kahless; 03-07-2019 at 07:51 PM.
Actually, like this:
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Then there is Ron Paul 2012.
http://web.archive.org/web/201201050...s/immigration/
Originally Posted by Ron Paul 2012
From video.
I agree with him however they will still come in mass despite cutting off incentives. Ron does not provide solutions in that video other than that. He leaves himself either open to interpretation or misinterpretation or that he is contradicting his two previous campaign platforms in 2008/2012 posted above to "do whatever it takes to secure the border".Originally Posted by Ron Paul in above video
You realize that many of us do not believe in free open borders, right? That's just something the government shills say to put fear into you so that you'll want to give government more power. Go back and see the Bastiat quote I posted earlier. The socialists always misrepresent the liberty position. Always.
And there is no contradiction in his position, only your interpretation of it.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Should I be trying to stop the white people from moving into my historically black neighborhood? Seriously did you not realize how racist you are sounding right now? No, you probably don't. Here is the thing. People can buy property and move where they want to move. Nothing is permanent. Not even this entire planet.
When has immigration not been regulated? Oh yeah. Back when the waves of white immigrants came to this country. And many of them were criminals.Violent or non-violent they do not want rapists, murders and various other criminals escaping from their homelands into our communities since immigration was not regulated.
So the Ron Paul movement is dead and people like you killed it. Seriously. We survived the "Let's give up freedom for security" even in the wake of the 9/11 hysteria, but now nearly 20 years late, let's give up freedom for security for non existent foreign terrorist that you think might exist. Okay.All that we know about.
And ^this shows that all of that "We just want to keep out the criminals, terrorists, and welfare recipients" argument that you and others are floating is just a pretext. Really it's what you led with. You're worried about white people being outnumbered. It matters not that certain waves of the brown people coming over might be better educated, have their own money, not need welfare, be less violent then native born Americans black or white, and might even be starting businesses and creating jobs. (I know someone in Kentucky who works at a Japanese owned factory for example.) Nope. It's really about "Our white European communities will be run over by darkies! What to do?" Still, I'm glad you were at least honest about that. And again. White people are taking over my black community. And I don't really care.Policy that promotes choosing citizens in foreign countries over our own is the definition of betrayal of the people living here. We are seeing more and more people calling politicians out for this betrayal and some calling the politicians that do it traitors. Another reason why the politicians that support it days in politics are numbered.
Right. Because they want their communities to remain white. And I really don't care to cater to their racism. But again, thanks for being honest.They support allowing the President to use emergency powers to stop an invasion of what was described above.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Government created problems do NOT need government solutions. (which are really just more government problems with better marketing campaigns.)
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
____________
An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Ron's solutions will not prevent white communities from not forever remaining majority white. Got it. Ron would allow in people who work hard, are well educated and don't need welfare but that's not good enough for you. Got it.
True story. My aunt bought a house in a majority white community when my cousin was in college in another city and she kept it after my cousin graduated. She always had good relations with her neighbors. She rented it out to several different black families. One day in between renters one of the neighbors came by. He said "I know this is going to sound odd. You've always been a good neighbor and your renters have always been good. But my children are starting to be minorities in the school they go to. Would you mind renting to a white family?" Well my aunt just laughed at the suggestion. But she turned the house over to a property manager who rented to a white family without my aunt asking him to do so. Only this family were like the "greasers" from that movie "The Outsiders." They were literally running a shade tree mechanic shop in the back yard, parking on the grass, playing their music loud etc. Eventually that same neighbor approached my aunt and said "I know this is going to sound odd....but could you get some more black renters?"
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Another pretext. Kahless was at least honest about what this is really about.
Does that make it right we should flood white neighborhoods today until only a few remain that are isolated surrounded by a different culture and language, ultimately becoming foreigners in their own community?
But again, if you don't want waves of immigrants then oppose Trump in his destabilizing Venezuela just for the oil.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
By giving it more power. Got it.Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
You're expecting a Trumpskiite to be logical? Here is the "logic." You say that you are against Trump's emergency power grab for the border wall because it's unconstitutional. @kahless falsely accuses you of being "open borders." You point out that Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Justin Amash and Thomas Massie all agree that the Trump power grab is unconstitutional. That is all ignored but instead kahless posts a quote of Ron Paul saying he's against open borders. Classic straw man tactics. The truth is that being against an unconstitutional power grab doesn't make you pro open borders. But truth is treason in an empire of lies.
And again, Trump's foreign policy is creating the so called "border crisis."
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I didn't announce that you were a racist. You responded to a post where I was responding to what I just quoted to you. Quit being dishonest. Or at the very least quit responding without considering the context!
Good for you. Then you should know the "border crisis" you are concerned about is a government created problem and not merely a government exaggerated problem.I do oppose American intervention.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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