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    Exclamation MSM already faking staged Migrant Landing for Emotional Manipulation

    MSM already faking staged Migrant Landing for Emotional Manipulation

    Hey *Globalists*, next time you shoot refugee propaganda make sure your film crew isn't in the shot too.

    Btw her first take was better



    What you are supposed to see.
    Refugees arrive on Lesbos as Turkey opens border – video
    So here's a question why are the half of the migrants African? rest Afghan? what are Africans fleeing from and news media staging things for the western audience to prey on their emotions?



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    So here's a question why are the half of the migrants African? rest Afghan? what are Africans fleeing from and news media staging things for the western audience to prey on their emotions?
    Here is what's odd. I hear that it's not from socialism, communism, dictatorships, juntas, banana republics, Islam, etc. that causes misery. The media tells me it is the fault of white supremacists. If this is true, why do these migrants flock to areas where they will be surrounded by supposed white supremacists?

    I think socialism, communism, dictatorships, etc. might be the actual cause. White supremacy is way overblown. However, white guilt is valuable to import socialist so we too can have a Venezuelan utopian society.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Here is what's odd. I hear that it's not from socialism, communism, dictatorships, juntas, banana republics, Islam, etc. that causes misery. The media tells me it is the fault of white supremacists. If this is true, why do these migrants flock to areas where they will be surrounded by supposed white supremacists?

    I think socialism, communism, dictatorships, etc. might be the actual cause. White supremacy is way overblown. However, white guilt is valuable to import socialist so we too can have a Venezuelan utopian society.
    The MSM outlets are using the excuse of White supremacy agaisnt Europeans and even Americans to call them racist, fascist if you disagree with the migration flow. In Sweden people have lost their jobs and some their social stats if they go publicly agaisnt the migration issue. Leftists have being to make it a criminal law if you debate or try to urge agaisnt the migration issue.

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    This reminds me of a person telling a lie to cover a lie to cover up a lie.

    Blame white supremacy. Blame leftists. Blame capitalism. Blame communism.

    The only solution is true Free Markets, the freedom to travel freely, and adherence to private property and private contract rights. Anything else, even temporary, is a lie and will lead to more problems down the road.

    Stay vigilant. Do not allow the statist neocon/communist/nationalist to sway you from the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This reminds me of a person telling a lie to cover a lie to cover up a lie.

    Blame white supremacy. Blame leftists. Blame capitalism. Blame communism.

    The only solution is true Free Markets, the freedom to travel freely, and adherence to private property and private contract rights. Anything else, even temporary, is a lie and will lead to more problems down the road.

    Stay vigilant. Do not allow the statist neocon/communist/nationalist to sway you from the truth.
    Bunk.

    Muslims would take over Europe and subject everyone to Sharia law.

    Your way invites tyranny to take over the entire world.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bunk.

    Muslims would take over Europe and subject everyone to Sharia law.

    Your way invites tyranny to take over the entire world.

    http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...he-only-option

    Things that are true don't fall from the heavens into your lap. They have to be sought. There are no shortcuts. It is only propaganda that falls into your lap. You don't have to exert any labor to get a big dose of propaganda. It's always there.

    Ron Paul has said a thousand times that you never have to sacrifice your freedom in order to be safe.

    Taking away freedom should never be an option in America.

    Today, it's presented as the only option.

    Individually, we need to make the commitment to remove ourselves from the Matrix of Fear.
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    You are the one spouting propaganda.
    And you are misrepresenting Ron's position.

    Securing the border and controlling immigration to keep out enemies of liberty isn't taking away freedom, letting liberty's enemies in takes away freedom.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Weak and open borders mean freedom! Look at the freedom that the Turks brought to the Greeks and the Armenians who had lived on Asia Minor for thousands of years.
    ...



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Here is what's odd. I hear that it's not from socialism, communism, dictatorships, juntas, banana republics, Islam, etc. that causes misery. The media tells me it is the fault of white supremacists. If this is true, why do these migrants flock to areas where they will be surrounded by supposed white supremacists?

    I think socialism, communism, dictatorships, etc. might be the actual cause. White supremacy is way overblown. However, white guilt is valuable to import socialist so we too can have a Venezuelan utopian society.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RJB again.

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    You are the one spouting propaganda.
    And you are misrepresenting Ron's position.

    Securing the border and controlling immigration to keep out enemies of liberty isn't taking away freedom, letting liberty's enemies in takes away freedom.
    If I succumb to government taking away/controlling my own rightful private property, the right to contract freely with another individual, mandate minimum wage and papers to said government as condition of employment and restricting my freedom to travel freely, via identification/permission, etc., I am but a slave.

    No, thank you, Statist. Take your brand of communism (nationalism) and... I will leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This reminds me of a person telling a lie to cover a lie to cover up a lie.

    Blame white supremacy. Blame leftists. Blame capitalism. Blame communism.

    The only solution is true Free Markets, the freedom to travel freely, and adherence to private property and private contract rights. Anything else, even temporary, is a lie and will lead to more problems down the road.

    Stay vigilant. Do not allow the statist neocon/communist/nationalist to sway you from the truth.
    How on earth do you preserve private property when you open it up to invaders?


    Please explain how that makes any sense at all .

    ....and why you don't have the courtesy to address the poster you're insulting.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    If I succumb to government taking away/controlling my own rightful private property, the right to contract freely with another individual, mandate minimum wage and papers to said government as condition of employment and restricting my freedom to travel freely, via identification/permission, etc., I am but a slave.

    No, thank you, Statist. Take your brand of communism (nationalism) and... I will leave it at that.


    You will be overrun by the most evil tyrants in the world.

    I decline to let you condemn me to the same fate.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    How on earth do you preserve private property when you open it up to invaders?


    Please explain how that makes any sense at all .

    ....and why you don't have the courtesy to address the poster you're insulting.....
    You can clearly see what loss of private property has lead to. For example, you must now pay taxes even if your home is fully paid for. Now, justification is made why government has a right to take it away. If you choose to employ a person of your choosing regardless of where place of origin is, and pay a negotiated wage, you must report that person to the government, else you will reap repercussion.

    It is a shame that there are still those who distrust government that actually trust and support government and its propaganda as our liberty and freedoms dwindle to nothing.

    May I take your private property? And if not, shall I take it anyway? Or is it only different for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You can clearly see what loss of private property has lead to. For example, you must now pay taxes even if your home is fully paid for. Now, justification is made why government has a right to take it away. If you choose to employ a person of your choosing regardless of where place of origin is, and pay a negotiated wage, you must report that person to the government, else you will reap repercussion.

    It is a shame that there are still those who distrust government that actually trust and support government and its propaganda as our liberty and freedoms dwindle to nothing.

    May I take your private property? And if not, shall I take it anyway? Or is it only different for you?
    Anarchy is impossible.

    And if you could achieve it in your country then you would have to keep too many foreigners out in order to preserve it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You can clearly see what loss of private property has lead to. For example, you must now pay taxes even if your home is fully paid for. Now, justification is made why government has a right to take it away. If you choose to employ a person of your choosing regardless of where place of origin is, and pay a negotiated wage, you must report that person to the government, else you will reap repercussion.

    It is a shame that there are still those who distrust government that actually trust and support government and its propaganda as our liberty and freedoms dwindle to nothing.

    May I take your private property? And if not, shall I take it anyway? Or is it only different for you?
    I have posted here and elsewhere too many times to count;

    there should be no property tax of any kind on your primary residence.,

    This issue has
    nothing at all with the stance that some people take here on Open Borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    So here's a question why are the half of the migrants African? rest Afghan? what are Africans fleeing from and news media staging things for the western audience to prey on their emotions?
    I am glad you asked, look at it this way. You do know sub Saharan Africa is a pretty poor area. There are not enough good paying jobs to go around, so people travel out for work. One place where people travel out within the continent for work was the former Gaddafi governed Libya. They worked, sent money back home to their families to keep em from going hungry.


    Now image that region that is already poor, struggling and just trying to stay above water, now imagine a war that killed that small cash cow they had. That war did not just kill the cash cow, it also gifted terrorist groups in the region with weapons to terrorize and further destabilize the region. This is why you see many more Africans than usual going to Europe.

    And before someone comes to remind me that the region was already shyte and it would have been shyte with or without the war, that is not my argument. I am trying to say that the war made an already bad situation that much worse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I am glad you asked, look at it this way. You do know sub Saharan Africa is a pretty poor area. There are not enough good paying jobs to go around, so people travel out for work. One place where people travel out within the continent for work was the former Gaddafi governed Libya. They worked, sent money back home to their families to keep em from going hungry.


    Now image that region that is already poor, struggling and just trying to stay above water, now imagine a war that killed that small cash cow they had. That war did not just kill the cash cow, it also gifted terrorist groups in the region with weapons to terrorize and further destabilize the region. This is why you see many more Africans than usual going to Europe.

    And before someone comes to remind me that the region was already shyte and it would have been shyte with or without the war, that is not my argument. I am trying to say that the war made an already bad situation that much worse.


    I am glad you asked, look at it this way. You do know sub Saharan Africa is a pretty poor area. There are not enough good paying jobs to go around, so people travel out for work. One place where people travel out within the continent for work was the former Gaddafi governed Libya. They worked, sent money back home to their families to keep em from going hungry.
    Many of those arent with families they are just men. Many of these coming into Italy arent who you are claiming that they are.
    And they arent all worked for Gaddaif.

    Now image that region that is already poor, struggling and just trying to stay above water, now imagine a war that killed that small cash cow they had. That war did not just kill the cash cow, it also gifted terrorist groups in the region with weapons to terrorize and further destabilize the region. This is why you see many more Africans than usual going to Europe.

    Many of them arent the Africans who worked for Gaddaif. I can see you are sort deflecting this one by claiming they are fleeing a war zone no difference from the news media claims.

    Many of these African men are smuggled and transported to Libya's detention/holding centers.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 03-03-2020 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Many of those arent with families they are just men. Many of these coming into Italy arent who you are claiming that they are.
    And they arent all worked for Gaddaif.



    Many of them arent the Africans who worked for Gaddaif. I can see you are sort deflecting this one by claiming they are fleeing a war zone no difference from the news media claims.

    Many of these African men are smuggled and transported to Libya's detention/holding centers.
    Yes, its usually the men who leave to work, I never argued it was mainly the women and children doing the migrating. And no, they did not all work for Gaddafi but Gaddafi governed Libya was an extra area where people in the region went to for work. Now destroy the one place and in addition release thousands of weapons that fell in the hands of terrorists group who the destablize the area, you end up with bigger waves of Africans heading to EU.

    Again, Africans have always gone to EU for work but the war and the fallout from it made it much worse. I really don't know why you are arguing this point. Is it your contention that the war did not negatively affect the region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Yes, its usually the men who leave to work, I never argued it was mainly the women and children doing the migrating. And no, they did not all work for Gaddafi but Gaddafi governed Libya was an extra area where people in the region went to for work. Now destroy the one place and in addition release thousands of weapons that fell in the hands of terrorists group who the destablize the area, you end up with bigger waves of Africans heading to EU.

    Again, Africans have always gone to EU for work but the war and the fallout from it made it much worse. I really don't know why you are arguing this point. Is it your contention that the war did not negatively affect the region?
    I have being following this crisis for quite some time. I will just say this many of those men coming into Sicily and Italy, Europe are not the men who worked with Gaddafi's gov these are village's men. Criminals out of east Africa.





    This thing is alot bigger then what you are claiming.



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