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    Flake, in New Hampshire, mulls 2020 challenge to Trump

    Retiring U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake, an inveterate critic of President Donald Trump, charged in a Thursday speech to the National Press Club that his fellow Republicans “might not deserve to lead” because of their blind loyalty to the president.
    The Arizonan also said he could wage a 2020 GOP primary challenge against Trump.
    "It's not in my plan to run for president, but I am not ruling it out. Somebody needs to stand up for traditional Republicanism," Flake said. "Somebody needs to raise that, for nothing else than to give people hope that that decent party will be back. We'll get through this."

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-to-trump.html
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    And if Trump's standing with the base doesn't fade, Flake would consider a presidential bid as an independent.
    "I'm not ruling that out either," he said. "There are going to be a lot of other people in the party looking for something else."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And if Trump's standing with the base doesn't fade, Flake would consider a presidential bid as an independent.
    "I'm not ruling that out either," he said. "There are going to be a lot of other people in the party looking for something else."
    We can not allow our friends in DNC to fade into irrelevance. The foundation of our system is a close 50/50 split.

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    Flake would not be able to raise money is my guess .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Flake would not be able to raise money is my guess .
    There are plenty of RINO donors around.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are plenty of RINO donors around.
    I think they would want to feel they have a chance to win before they start writing checks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think they would want to feel they have a chance to win before they start writing checks .
    Many of them would be happy to see a Demoncrat win.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Just about anyone can beat Flake. Hopefully others will be encouraged to challenge Trump.
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Flake has been terrible since becoming a senator.

    But I'd take him over Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Flake has been terrible since becoming a senator.

    But I'd take him over Trump.
    He would get even worse as President than he was in the Senate, he would be much worse than Trump.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    52 minutes of Flake torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Trump got their support last time he'll get their support next time.
    He was nudged over by the sheer number of Americans fed up with being labeled racists every night on the evening newzzz.

    If Trump gets re-elected, it'll have more to do with how democrats behave than what Trump says or promises. They should probably get some new material other than "racists!!!" or "Russians!!!" because frankly people are tired of whining Democrats.
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    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Trump got their support last time he'll get their support next time.
    Whatever you think of DJTvsg he is no longer fashionable, there are plenty of "moderate" Republicans itching for a chance to finance a jackass in elephant's clothing to take the nomination or run as a spoiler independent in 2020.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    He was nudged over by the sheer number of Americans fed up with being labeled racists every night on the evening newzzz.

    If Trump gets re-elected, it'll have more to do with how democrats behave than what Trump says or promises. They should probably get some new material other than "racists!!!" or "Russians!!!" because frankly people are tired of whining Democrats.
    At the present time he is set to win in a landslide because they are veering off into the deep end further.
    The blue wave is going to be a blue ebb tide.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    He was nudged over by the sheer number of Americans fed up with being labeled racists every night on the evening newzzz.

    If Trump gets re-elected, it'll have more to do with how democrats behave than what Trump says or promises. They should probably get some new material other than "racists!!!" or "Russians!!!" because frankly people are tired of whining Democrats.
    Mitt Romney gave Trump the biggest endorsement an establishment RINO could of given him. He couldnt of gotten less people to vote for Trump unless he gave that same endorsement to Ted Cruz.



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