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    Exclamation Why is nobody raising hell about the invasive census?

    10 years ago we had all manner of threads going on this subject.

    This time...crickets.

    I've done the same thing I did ten years ago.

    Stapled a letter to their massive multi page form stating:

    REDACTED number of people live at this residence.
    That is all you are constitutionally permitted to require from me.

    Signed,
    A Citizen


    And sent it back.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-18-2020 at 01:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    10 years we had all manner of threads going on this subject.

    This time...crickets.

    I've done the same thing I did ten year ago.

    Stapled a letter to their massive multi page form stating:

    REDACTED number of people live at this residence.
    That is all you are constitutionally permitted to require from me.

    Signed,
    A Citizen


    And sent it back.
    Love it!!!

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    I have not seen a census person in a couple decades I do not think . I imagine I have only ever been counted once or twice since the 50's if I had to guess .
    Last edited by oyarde; 03-15-2020 at 11:17 AM.
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    I hear ya AF... they bothered me with a mid-term census a few years ago... twice cuz we had our old place we were trying to sell. Double your pleasure

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  6. #5
    I don’t respond to the people counters and never will. Will not reply. Don’t play their games whenever possible.

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    I just answer the number question then leave the rest blank. Then when the clipboard shows up the only word I'll speak is "two", unless I need to say "wife, fetch the shotgun".
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    I received the packet in the mail yesterday. Haven't opened it but it does seem rather thick.
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    But AF, the ads on youtruth I keep seeing say you can get back lots of goodies from the government by filling out your census.



    So there are 5 million people living in my house. Gimme dat money!
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 03-15-2020 at 02:58 PM.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    I did mine online? It was pretty basic, 10-15 questions...

    I gave them what they already knew.

    The feds all know who you are and where you live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    I did mine online? It was pretty basic, 10-15 questions...

    I gave them what they already knew.

    The feds all know who you are and where you live.
    If you do it online can you just answer the number of people in the household questions and leave the others blank?
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    If you do it online can you just answer the number of people in the household questions and leave the others blank?
    Cant leave it blank but you can certainly get away with putting anything random.
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    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Cant leave it blank but you can certainly get away with putting anything random.
    Awesome. I've always wanted to be a Polynesian/Pacific Islander.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

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    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

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    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Awesome. I've always wanted to be a Polynesian/Pacific Islander.
    You know, the thought occurred to me that I ought to do that.

    NH is in the crosshairs of the diversity mob for being "too white".

    Maybe if some of us fill these census forms out with a bunch of "paper diversity", it'll cool the jets of the Great Replacers.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-16-2020 at 02:14 PM.
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    Because everyone gets worn down. Government does this as their job, so they can usually outlast you.

    It's sort of a dilemma. Do you get in their face about it, or just quietly subvert them? It like the bakers who don't want to make cakes for the freaks. They made an issue of it, but they could have also told the homosexuals they were busy.

    Picking your spots and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, the thought occurred to me that I ought to do that.

    NH is in the crosshairs of the diversity mob for being "too white".

    Maybe if some of us fill these census forms out with a bunch of "paper diversity", it'll cool the jets of the Great Replacers.
    Great point here. If people can pick their gender then we can pick a race that better aligns with our spirit animal shockra or something along those lines. I feel oppressed already, brother!

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    So, I just "believe" I did mine online. It gives the appearance that you have to fill out everything but what I did was just left every question blank and clicked "next". It would then say you need to fill $#@! out but I just clicked next again and it moved on to the next question with leaving that question blank. I say I "believe" I did it because it let me submit it like that. In 2010 I did a similar thing on the paper form (just filled out how many people reside at the residence I reside at) and I "believed" I had submitted it as well but was still hounded by in person census counters. With COVID-19 going around this year, maybe we will be saved from that?

    Anyway, long story short, I think you can try to submit it online by just clicking next twice for the questions you are not constitutionally required to answer.

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    I did my part and recycled mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Because everyone gets worn down. Government does this as their job, so they can usually outlast you.

    It's sort of a dilemma. Do you get in their face about it, or just quietly subvert them? It like the bakers who don't want to make cakes for the freaks. They made an issue of it, but they could have also told the homosexuals they were busy.

    Picking your spots and all that.
    Yep - wear down the citizenry, submit them with fear tactics, etc.

    Honestly, what don't they already know from filling out taxes? I'm going to fill mine out soon but will certainly try to provide as vague answers as possible to the questions I feel uncomfortable with. They really should only need to know the number of people in the house, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    10 years ago we had all manner of threads going on this subject.

    This time...crickets.

    I've done the same thing I did ten years ago.

    Stapled a letter to their massive multi page form stating:

    REDACTED number of people live at this residence.
    That is all you are constitutionally permitted to require from me.

    Signed,
    A Citizen


    And sent it back.
    I just never replied to the damn thing.

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    For ethnicity, I know a couple people who said they put "American" and "human."
    They also didn't fully spell out their names. There's room to be vague on a few items but it's fascinating to see the data they want.

    Oh and keep in mind that American Japanese were rounded up in WWII with this data. Also, American-Arabs were also profiled by the security agencies with census data post 9/11.
    And to think people are proud to fill these things out.
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    Wifey met census lady at the gate and told her to "gtfo with your tin badge, nobody lives here and its none of your $#@!ing business if they did." to which toadlady replied "but its the law, but but but." to which Wifey responded "leave".Personally, I didn't have to do a thing since. Why is this a hassle or something for other people?

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    ''There were four million people in the American Colonies and we had Jefferson and Franklin. Now we have over 300 million and the two top guys are Trump and Biden. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong.'' ~ Mort Sahl

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    Last census human to show up at my door was in 1990, Jamesburg NJ. I came to at the door with my coach gun, told him I'm not playing, and closed the door. Have not been bothered again since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Yep - wear down the citizenry, submit them with fear tactics, etc.

    Honestly, what don't they already know from filling out taxes? I'm going to fill mine out soon but will certainly try to provide as vague answers as possible to the questions I feel uncomfortable with. They really should only need to know the number of people in the house, nothing more.

    Taxes?

    I don't do those, either, though I did pay $1500 once. My accountant convinced me to cut the check after 12 years and just under $4 million and not a penny paid to IRS, all well within code. I ground my teeth for a week or more over it, but have since let it go.

    OK, I haven't let it go. Sue me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Taxes?

    I don't do those, either, though I did pay $1500 once. My accountant convinced me to cut the check after 12 years and just under $4 million and not a penny paid to IRS, all well within code. I ground my teeth for a week or more over it, but have since let it go.

    OK, I haven't let it go. Sue me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCifelli1 View Post
    I hang on every word you write. Please be around more.
    Good God, I hope you're kidding.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    10 years ago we had all manner of threads going on this subject.

    This time...crickets.

    I've done the same thing I did ten years ago.

    Stapled a letter to their massive multi page form stating:

    REDACTED number of people live at this residence.
    That is all you are constitutionally permitted to require from me.

    Signed,
    A Citizen


    And sent it back.


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