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Thread: New Bill In Congress Would Bypass the Fourth Amendment, Hand Your Data To Police

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    New Bill In Congress Would Bypass the Fourth Amendment, Hand Your Data To Police

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/03...data-to-police

    Lawmakers behind a new anti-privacy bill are trying to sneak it through Congress by attaching it to the must-pass government spending bill. The CLOUD Act would hand police in the U.S., and other countries, extreme new powers to obtain and monitor data directly from tech companies instead of requiring a warrant and judicial review. Congressional leadership will decide whether the CLOUD Act gets attached to the omnibus government spending bill sometime this week, potentially as early as tomorrow... If passed, this bill would give law enforcement the power to go directly to tech companies, no matter where they or their servers are, to obtain our data. They wouldn't need a warrant or court oversight, and we'll be left with no protections to ensure law enforcement isn't violating our rights.

    A recent report from the Electronic Frontier Foundation explains how the CLOUD Act circumvents the Fourth Amendment. "This new backdoor for cross-border data mirrors another backdoor under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, an invasive NSA surveillance authority for foreign intelligence gathering," reports the EFF. "That law, recently reauthorized and expanded by Congress for another six years, gives U.S. intelligence agencies, including the NSA, FBI, and CIA, the ability to search, read, and share our private electronic messages without first obtaining a warrant. The new backdoor in the CLOUD Act operates much in the same way. U.S. police could obtain Americans' data, and use it against them, without complying with the Fourth Amendment."
    Oops! Your data apparently isnt protected at all by the 4th Amendment because your data is NOT on your computer, its stored in the CLOUD! Oh, by the way, you should spend all your money on CLOUD products and CLOUD services so you give up all your control to corporations and a crony govt that throws you overboard the moment you go to collect anything owed to you.

    Nothing to fear, nothing to hide, right? RIGHT?

    Without Privacy, everything can be used AGAINST you in a court of law.
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    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Who couldn't see that one coming?


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    NOT. GOOD.
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    we weren't using it anyway.
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    What $#@!ing Fourth Amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What $#@!ing Fourth Amendment?
    Exactly. This just sounds like a streamlined version of what has been happening for over a decade now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/03...data-to-police



    Oops! Your data apparently isnt protected at all by the 4th Amendment because your data is NOT on your computer, its stored in the CLOUD! Oh, by the way, you should spend all your money on CLOUD products and CLOUD services so you give up all your control to corporations and a crony govt that throws you overboard the moment you go to collect anything owed to you.

    Nothing to fear, nothing to hide, right? RIGHT?

    Without Privacy, everything can be used AGAINST you in a court of law.
    It is not really about the cloud unless you count your ISP (Comcast, AT&T) using cloud to store all the data it collects about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It is not really about the cloud unless you count your ISP (Comcast, AT&T) using cloud to store all the data it collects about you.
    VPN

    Of course, not all VPNs are created equal. Facebook now has its own VPN which it uses to collect just as much data on its users. All Facebook's VPN does is gives Facebook the ability to record ALL internet connection activity (not just web) and all the ISP gets is encrypted data that they do not have the keys for.

    If anyone is considering a good VPN, I would recommend Private Internet Access.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    Can't you just smell the freedom?
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    VPN

    Of course, not all VPNs are created equal. Facebook now has its own VPN which it uses to collect just as much data on its users. All Facebook's VPN does is gives Facebook the ability to record ALL internet connection activity (not just web) and all the ISP gets is encrypted data that they do not have the keys for.

    If anyone is considering a good VPN, I would recommend Private Internet Access.

    Facebook... VPN...

    That's, I say that's a joke son...
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

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    Is this wise move by Congress?

    Cooperating with our closest foreign allies at leasrt makes sense from freedom security alliance standpoint, but what is the need for such domestic cooperations?

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    The latest came this week, in response to a report from British press that revealed the National Security Agency commonly provides Israel with intelligence data — without first stripping out private and personal information on American citizens. The Guardian in London reported the item, the latest in its coverage of document leaks from Edward Snowden.
    Mr. Woods unleashed his views of the matter — and of Mr. Obama's role in allowing the practice to occur — on Twitter.
    He wrote: "Report: Data on Americans shared with Israel ... Obama: the gift from hell that keeps on giving."



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