Hundreds of people missing from our National Parks

[Identity]

David Paulides is a former detective that investigates missing persons and has taken an interest in the unexplained disappearances in rural areas & forests. He claimed to have discovered several patterns such as "clusters" in certain geographical areas along with similar age groups vanishing depending on the given location. A few other anomalies are the tracking dogs losing the scent or going up seemingly unlikely routes (up mountain sides, going upstream a river, boulder areas, rocky cliffs, etc..) Another oddity is the presence of the word "Devil" in the location surrounding the missing people- Devil's Nest, Devil's Peak, Devil's Cave, etc.. Paulides doesn't offer an explanation (he says nothing seems to fit) but leaves it up to the listener to draw his own conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aghKNrjFeRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QezIejUhDT4

[Zippyjuan]

Bigfoot is eating them! https://science.howstuffworks.com/sc...onal-parks.htm

(according to David Paulides)

But as Paulides dug in and through endless reports and cold case files, he noticed disturbing trends. In some cases, an easy answer was available: death by falling, animal attack, exposure to the elements or illness. But there were some stories that Paulides thought defied simple explanation. People seemingly vanished into thin air — they were there one minute and gone the next. Other stories involved tracking dogs that were brought in that either couldn't — or wouldn't — hunt for the missing. Still other disappearances seemed to occur more frequently near areas heavy with boulders or close to berry patches.

Some people were eventually located at much higher elevations than when they disappeared. In one such case, a toddler was found 12 miles (19 kilometers) away from where he vanished, a journey that would have had this 2-year-old traversing two mountain ranges and crossing over fences and through creeks. Perhaps a person abducted the boy and abandoned him miles later? But why?

These mysterious circumstances have led some to theorize these are abductions made by Bigfoot, or some other large animal or wild man (like the Wendigo). One family recounted a story of watching a little girl walk into the forest only to vanish with no trace. Could these missing people have come upon portals to other dimensions? Some think that's a possibility, too.

Paulides has his detractors, of course. Skeptics like Kyle Polich have worked to debunk his claims, saying the statistics show that all of these cases have perfectly reasonable explanations. Polich is right; people can die in the wilderness without help from the supernatural. But there are shades to these stories that are hard to shake.

[Identity]

Here's one of the creepier cases and also a famous one in its time- the disappearance of Dennis Martin. Strange instance of green berets (who refused to cooperate or exchange knowledge with search and rescue) and an FBI report that points to a wild man being the culprit behind Martin's disappearance. David had the opportunity to meet with the father of the missing kid, here's him talking about it on Coast 2 Coast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8QZ0kNUhsk


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Here's another one which is honestly the craziest:
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/0...shed-children/

Alfred Beilhartz vanishes and it has all the typical traits of other cases (odd scent trails, no trace of kid, and mysteriously last seen in a place called "Devil's Nest") and the last people to have seen him alive have an unbelievable story:

Even more bizarre than this was an odd report that came in from some hikers in the area in the early stages of the search, the very day after Alfred had vanished. The hikers, who were a couple, had been on Old Fall River Road about 6 miles away over rugged terrain and around 3,000 feet higher from where Alfred had disappeared, and at the time had had no idea that there was a missing boy in the area, yet they reported seeing a rather worrying sight. They claimed that they had seen a young boy perched up upon a high ridge in an area ominously called “The Devil’s Nest,” near the top of Mt. Chaplin. The hikers reported that the boy had been forlornly sitting alone up there and had then suddenly moved out of sight, which the hikers mysteriously allegedly said looked as if he were being “jerked back.” At the time they could not figure out how such a young boy would be out there in the remote wilderness by himself or how he could have possibly climbed up onto that formidably high ridge. According to the hikers, as soon as they had gotten home and seen the news, they had realized that the boy they had seen was the missing Alfred Beilhartz.Authorities acted on the tip and made the journey out to the Devil’s Nest, a perilous hike through thick, unforgiving forested terrain littered with rough brush and dense trees, and there at the top of the looming ridge they could find no trace of the boy. Considering the difficulty of the terrain, the elevation, and the steep, treacherous climb up to the ridge on which the hikers had claimed to have seen the boy, park rangers came to the conclusion that it would have been impossible for the boy to have made the hike out there in the timeframe involved on his own, and that he could not have possibly climbed the ridge alone without specialized climbing equipment and experience. There are several weird details about this case. How did Alfred manage to just vanish right under his parents’ noses without making a sound? What happened to his scent trail and why did the bloodhounds following him act so oddly? How could Alfred hike all the way up Mt. Chaplin, trudging 6 miles and 3,000 feet through unforgiving perilous terrain in such a short time, and then climb up onto that high ridge by himself? What did the hikers mean that he was “jerked back”? We may never know, and Alfred Beilhartz has never been found.

[Danke]

Bigfoot is eating them! https://science.howstuffworks.com/sc...onal-parks.htm

Out of neg reps. Anyone?

[sparebulb]

Out of neg reps. Anyone?

I've got you covered.

[timosman]

Out of neg reps. Anyone?

I am also out.

[timosman]

I've got you covered.

How is @Republicanguy ahead of @Zippyjuan on this list http://www.ronpaulforums.com/memberl...utation&pp=30?

[sparebulb]

How is @Republicanguy ahead of @Zippyjuan on this list http://www.ronpaulforums.com/memberl...utation&pp=30?

I had no idea that Zippy was this close to making RPF history.

I think that he has what it takes to take the lead.

Are we going to have a party for him when he becomes the Top Turd

[oyarde]

David Paulides is a former detective that investigates missing persons and has taken an interest in the unexplained disappearances in rural areas & forests. He claimed to have discovered several patterns such as "clusters" in certain geographical areas along with similar age groups vanishing depending on the given location. A few other anomalies are the tracking dogs losing the scent or going up seemingly unlikely routes (up mountain sides, going upstream a river, boulder areas, rocky cliffs, etc..) Another oddity is the presence of the word "Devil" in the location surrounding the missing people- Devil's Nest, Devil's Peak, Devil's Cave, etc.. Paulides doesn't offer an explanation (he says nothing seems to fit) but leaves it up to the listener to draw his own conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aghKNrjFeRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QezIejUhDT4

Well do not the most disappearances happen in Yosemite ? Also , between Danke and I we have been to them all and I have never been disappeared .

[agitator]

Zippy too...

[timosman]

Well do not the most disappearances happen in Yosemite ? Also , between Danke and I we have been to them all and I have never been disappeared .

You are not exactly the type.

[oyarde]

The California Dept of Justice requires all law enforcement to report all missing persons . Missing adults in 1996 - 2000 were 37k to 40k ea yr . 2001 - 2005 35k to 40k ea yr . 2006 - 2010 35K to 39K ea yr , 2011 to 2013 35K to 38K each year . This is only Cal and there are separate numbers for children .

[timosman]

I had no idea that Zippy was this close to making RPF history.

I think that he has what it takes to take the lead.

Are we going to have a party for him when he becomes the Top Turd

Definitely. Let's make sure the mods are invited.

[timosman]

The California Dept of Justice requires all law enforcement to report all missing persons . Missing adults in 1996 - 2000 were 37k to 40k ea yr . 2001 - 2005 35k to 40k ea yr . 2006 - 2010 35K to 39K ea yr , 2011 to 2013 35K to 38K each year . This is only Cal and there are separate numbers for children .

That's 100 people per day. WTF?

[Swordsmyth]

How is @Republicanguy ahead of @Zippyjuan on this list http://www.ronpaulforums.com/memberl...utation&pp=30?

Zippy has a network of sympathizers that +rep him for things that don't deserve it just to help his rating.

[oyarde]

That's 100 people per day. WTF?

2014 40k . Many ( 30 - 33k 2011 through 2014 ) are listed by police in category " Voluntary Missing " which are adults believed to have left of own free will .

[oyarde]

2015 40k , 2016 41k .

[timosman]

Zippy has a network of sympathizers that +rep him for things that don't deserve it just to help his rating.

I know he does, but aren't they all his coworkers or sock puppets? Are the mods going to finally clamp down on this crap?

[euphemia]

Zippy has a network of sympathizers that +rep him for things that don't deserve it just to help his rating.

Don't look at me. I barely read any of his posts any more. I only see them if someone quotes him.

[Swordsmyth]

Don't look at me. I barely read any of his posts any more. I only see them if someone quotes him.

You are not on my list, I have no doubt about your sincere support for the mission of this website, I won't post my list because that would probably violate site guidelines but they know who they are.

[oyarde]

So , if you go missing from Yosemite I do not think you will be found . Yosemite was inhabited at least as far back as 11k years ago . Maybe the Ahwaneechee Indians cursed the evil trespassers in 1851 in the Mariposa War .

[Raginfridus]

I remember the case about the boy who happened to be 3,000 ft up from where he was seen last. There are a couple yootoob channels that do quality top 10s, and abductions (non alien kind) are a common list.

The worst one I watched was of two unidentified, bound and gagged people, young woman and a boy, taken in a Polaroid found lying where a truck had just pulled away. They've never been identified, its just assumed they were two more victims of ransom, slavery, or snuff porn. A publicity stunt was unlikely, because there's no payoff in the pre-internet age, and of course nobody ever identified the kids. Sick $#@! man, nothing anybody can really do about it.

So , if you go missing from Yosemite I do not think you will be found . Yosemite was inhabited at least as far back as 11k years ago . Maybe the Ahwaneechee Indians cursed the evil trespassers in 1851 in the Mariposa War .

Maybe. The world's wide. All kinds of helter skelter $#@! happens every day nobody hears about.

If I mysteriously disappear, I just hope I'm unconscious or dead the whole time. I don't want to be eaten alive, and there's just some things a human being doesn't need to know. Please respect my wishes abductors, if you prey on men approaching their 30s who aren't muslim.

[oyarde]

National Parks are dangerous . Maybe the nation should not be trusted with parks .

[timosman]

You are not on my list, I have no doubt about your sincere support for the mission of this website, I won't post my list because that would probably violate site guidelines but they know who they are.

Is there any correlation with open borders supporters?

[Raginfridus]

National Parks are dangerous . Maybe the nation should not be trusted with parks .

Nature shouldn't be underestimated... neither should park rangers. I'll stop there.

[Swordsmyth]

Is there any correlation with open borders supporters?

[pcosmar]

Well do not the most disappearances happen in Yosemite ? Also , between Danke and I we have been to them all and I have never been disappeared .

I have disappeared.

but I came back.

I do question that sometimes.

[Raginfridus]

I have disappeared.

but I came back.

I do question that sometimes.

The disappearing or coming back part? Or the whole trip?

[angelatc]

The worst one I watched was of two unidentified, bound and gagged people, young woman and a boy, taken in a Polaroid found lying where a truck had just pulled away. They've never been identified, its just assumed they were two more victims of ransom, slavery, or snuff porn. A publicity stunt was unlikely, because there's no payoff in the pre-internet age, and of course nobody ever identified the kids. Sick $#@! man, nothing anybody can really do about it.

[QUOTE]Marilyn Manson had said in his autobiography that when living in Florida in 1989, the same time the polaroid was found, he used to take polaroids of fake murder and torture scenes with his girlfriend, and would leave the pictures on public places.[/QUOTE]

[Raginfridus]

[QUOTE]Marilyn Manson had said in his autobiography that when living in Florida in 1989, the same time the polaroid was found, he used to take polaroids of fake murder and torture scenes with his girlfriend, and would leave the pictures on public places.

[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I read that in the comments. Crazy $#@! man. He could have just remembered the story and taken it for himself. Nobody else would own up to it. They don't exactly look tortured though.