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Sen. Rand Paul says government should not force people to receive vaccinations
(Excellent.)Originally Posted by Warlord
Edit to ; Ok......
Last edited by Stratovarious; 03-05-2019 at 03:32 PM.
Probably the version that went to print..Correction: An earlier version of this report incorrectly stated that Paul had questioned whether the benefits of vaccinations outweigh the risks. The article has been corrected.
$#@! WaPo, worst publication ever.
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"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
You cannot hold this against Rand. He normally votes for liberty.
Why would anybody hold this against Rand? Did you read the headline incorrectly?
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
No I read it correctly. I wouldn't hold this against him.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Warlord again.
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So, conversely, you believe the government should force people to be vaccinated? And you believe this to be the pro-liberty position?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
*facepalm* He said "You cannot hold this against Rand. He normally votes for liberty." In other words he supports Rand's position. Sheesh!
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I like this, I would also like to see him say he is dead against mandated vaccines, sounds like he'sBut he added that he supports “persuasion” rather than government-mandated vaccines.“It is wrong to say that there are no risks to vaccines. Even the government admits that children
are sometimes injured by vaccines . . . I still don’t favor giving up on liberty for a false sense of security,”
Paul said.
trying to avoid ruffling feathers.
Do you support Rand's decision , what would yours be.....
You have it backwards, he seems to be defending Rand even though he sees this as an anti-liberty position.
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I absolutely support it!
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
This is how I read it.
"You cannot hold this against Rand (even if you think everybody getting vaccinated is a good thing). He normally votes for liberty (and this is another example of that.)"
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Me too, I wouldn't mind his 'language' to be stronger.
You could be right but I didn't see that interpretation when I read it, it is an unclear statement and his reply to Dannno doesn't help:
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I am for mandatory vaccination. I think it can be argued both ways. But it is incredibly dishonest to call Rand an anti-vaxxer like so many of the articles I see. It is so disgusting that "journalists" write crap like this. https://www.thedailybeast.com/rand-p...e-of-security/
And it is also disgusting when Rand says vaccines can have side effects and people say he is therefore promoting conspiracy theories about vaccines. He was reading right from the CDC site. This is one of those issues that causes people to melt down and not argue in good faith.
I oppose force mandate anything, especially by this government. Some companies require flu shots, an employee has the option to leave.
Pharmaceutical companies are no different than MIC, where they lobby government for profit. I research the best that I can, time permitting, but I am not a physician or chemical engineer. I have no clue what some of those chemicals do or what the side effects are. Pumping an innocent baby/child with chemicals should be the parents ultimate decision - not government.
It is bad enough that government is directly involved in education, which stinks on its own, and just about every other facet of life. It is amazing folks haven't learned by the romney-obama-care fiasco.
It takes a village... cradle to grave... I am trying to REDUCE government, not grow it.
I weigh and discuss cost/benefits with my own physician, I do not want or need outside help.
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This is how the statement is traditionally used:
"Rand just endorsed Mitt Romney. I wouldn't hold it against him, he normally votes for liberty."
I believe Schifference may think that he should have the liberty to strap people to a bed a force an injection needle into their veins so he has the liberty not to get sick. Or he is just $#@!ing around, I don't know.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Your having spelled it out I can see how a person might read it that way. But to be honest I read it the same way as dannno and Swordsmyth read it. That's how I've seen that phasing used in the past, so...
Chris
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The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Damn it, Rand. You don't think the government should stick us with needles against our will?
ok, I guess I won't hold it against you.
Hilarious to watch the statists losing their $#@! over his comments.
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Rand is 100% correct unfortunately we still have educating to the masses. I totally understand him being careful.
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