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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    Yea, demagogue nails it!

    And as history teaches, a well-intentioned authoritarian can be the most dangerous flavor.

    But hopefully it will turn out better than an approved candidate maintaining the present,
    steady decline path back to bondage... I think it comes down to Clinton or Trump.



    Yes, it could get real ugly and burn quickly because the wrong tactics will probably
    be applied at first, by Trump. But he is a smart man and has backed out of a bad deal
    and changed directions before, then trying something else (though he'd rather win instead!).

    America could become great again. At least our internal enemy will finally be engaged as long
    as that loud pissing and moaning sound from the status quo choir continues to push back.

    Best worst case: The final prize may be way down the road if Liberty can rise again,
    like a phoenix, from the ashes.
    Yep, Rothbard tended to be pretty astute.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    fools.
    .... and their money are soon parted.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabal View Post
    "Libertarians for authoritarian statism"

    Right!

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Sorry, I just really attempt to keep things as simple as possible. Ya kinda lost me there, in that.
    I was arguing if Lew mentioning a article from Roger Stone creates any suspicions. Stone is noted to work with people that are detested within the liberty movement.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    I was arguing if Lew mentioning a article from Roger Stone creates any suspicions. Stone is noted to work with people that are detested within the liberty movement.
    Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

  8. #36
    So by now it should be fairly apparent that these folks (Block, Rockwell) are not sympathetic to libertarians; they are right-wing Republicans.
    "We readily concede Mr. Donald Trump is no Ron Paul on foreign policy or anything else for that matter. However, compared to his Republican alternatives, the Donald stands head and shoulders above them."
    Why is Block only comparing Trump to other Republicans? Sanders is far closer (though not very close) to the libertarian positions on everything except for economics, and so far as it is actually possible to tell, Sanders is probably not any worse than Trump on economics. So, why only Republicans? - It's clear that Block is a Republican.
    Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever. Thomas Jefferson

  9. #37
    Block endorsed Gov. Johnson in 2012.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Rothbardian Girl View Post
    So by now it should be fairly apparent that these folks (Block, Rockwell) are not sympathetic to libertarians; they are right-wing Republicans.

    Why is Block only comparing Trump to other Republicans? Sanders is far closer (though not very close) to the libertarian positions on everything except for economics, and so far as it is actually possible to tell, Sanders is probably not any worse than Trump on economics. So, why only Republicans? - It's clear that Block is a Republican.
    You think so:


  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Ron would say, don't vote for Trump. Lew won't.
    On one of the recent post-debate Tom Woods podcasts, Lew said "don't vote" (meaning "don't vote for any of these candidates").
    Last edited by ghostofbort; 03-15-2016 at 08:36 PM.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Rothbardian Girl View Post
    So by now it should be fairly apparent that these folks (Block, Rockwell) are not sympathetic to libertarians; they are right-wing Republicans.
    A bunch of charlatans from either side have been infiltrating libertarianism for a while now--and then discouraging and rejecting actual libertarianism while parading their ideology around as if it were legitimate libertarianism. It's sad. You can see it here on this little, forgotten forum. You can see it in other social media. You can see it in various websites that are ostensibly aligned with libertarianism. And this is just one of the latest examples of the result.

    Keep on rejecting the purists folks, and you'll soon find you're nigh indistinguishable from run of the mill liberals and conservatives.
    Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by hankrichter12 View Post
    You think so:

    Sorry, I'm not watching this. Give me a synopsis.
    Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever. Thomas Jefferson

  15. #42
    The article was written by Walter Block.


  16. #43
    ...Oh

    So the guy who publishes endless articles about why libertarians shouldn't vote, while Rand Paul is running for President; And who publishes endless articles trashing Rand Paul for not being hardcore enough in his libertarianism; This guy now comes out to urge libertarians to vote for the most socialistic, authoritarian, piece of rotten $#@! to run for President in 50 years...

    Lew Rockwell is not a libertarian.

    He is actively working against the liberty movement.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...Oh

    So the guy who publishes endless articles about why libertarians shouldn't vote, while Rand Paul is running for President; And who publishes endless articles trashing Rand Paul for not being hardcore enough in his libertarianism; This guy now comes out to urge libertarians to vote for the most socialistic, authoritarian, piece of rotten $#@! to run for President in 50 years...

    Lew Rockwell is not a libertarian.

    He is actively working against the liberty movement.
    Why? That is the question I want to know?

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Rothbardian Girl View Post
    Sorry, I'm not watching this. Give me a synopsis.
    Alright, well basically Bernie only "opposed" the Iraq War because he had a different idea on how to do it, he tried to amend the declaration, it was shot down, so he voted no, but he did want to go to war.

    He fully supports Israel and all it is doing against the Palestinians, not saying I'm on one side or the other, my position is we stay out of it.

    Despite saying he was against the Iraq War he voted to fund it every single time.

    He voted for the contracts to build an Air Force jet (forget the name off hand) but it's basically worthless, has never worked, has never been useful, and has cost over a trillion dollars to date. There is a plant in every state that makes parts for it (clever eh?) so everyone votes for it of course.

    There is quite a bit more, I can't remember it all offhand, but I'm pretty sure he supported the sanctions on Iraq and Iran, he was in favor of removing Ghaddaffi, and I think even taking out Assad, lots more I can't recall, it's been awhile since I watched it, but yeah, he's not the non-interventionist he's portrayed as, oh, also he totally pulled the rug out from Ron and gutted the Audit the Fed bill at the last minute, after working with him on it for months, Ron was pretty pissed.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Why? That is the question I want to know?
    Occam's razor says $$$$

    He sells libertarian doom porn.

    Where would business be if we ever had any real success?

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...Oh

    So the guy who publishes endless articles about why libertarians shouldn't vote, while Rand Paul is running for President; And who publishes endless articles trashing Rand Paul for not being hardcore enough in his libertarianism; This guy now comes out to urge libertarians to vote for the most socialistic, authoritarian, piece of rotten $#@! to run for President in 50 years...

    Lew Rockwell is not a libertarian.

    He is actively working against the liberty movement.
    I think we all know what is really attracting him to Trump but its politically incorrect to point it out. The same issue is why people like Stefan Molyneux who advised us for years not waste our time supporting Ron Paul is now shill for Trump M-F

  21. #48
    I'm supporting Trump because politics is a joke and I want the biggest joke to win. Every choice available is terrible. So I throw my support behind Trump to piss off neocons, the media, and social justice weirdos. It's a $#@! show and I'm enjoying every minute of it.

    This Israel firster that recently became the "anti-sjw" has now become an sjw himself:



    I don't view politics as a religion. It's a joke. I can't have any real effect on getting what I want so I'm going to make a mockery of it.

    *edit: rpf is now censoring s h i t? that's retarded. Can I say $#@!?
    *edit: goddamn I can't say f u c k. What is this? $#@!ing church?
    Last edited by fr33; 03-15-2016 at 10:35 PM.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Occam's razor says $$$$
    Probably, that why he is promoting Roger Stone more often than the Paul's.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think we all know what is really attracting him to Trump but its politically incorrect to point it out.
    Yea, he's a dumbass white nationalist.

    Murray did the Paleo thing as a political strategy, as he did the New Left thing a couple decades earlier.

    Lew actually believed it.

    Maybe that's all it is (not that that's not bad enough), but I think there's also money involved.



    ^^Murray, in his grave, regretting having ever associated himself with this moron.

    The same issue is why people like Stefan Molyneux who advised us for years not waste our time supporting Ron Paul is now shill for Trump M-F
    Molyneux is a straight up con-man, no principles whatsoever.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 03-15-2016 at 10:48 PM.

  25. #51
    libertarians enjoy losing too much to support a winner like Trump. It would never work.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think we all know what is really attracting him to Trump but its politically incorrect to point it out. The same issue is why people like Stefan Molyneux who advised us for years not waste our time supporting Ron Paul is now shill for Trump M-F
    Or maybe like many of us he's woken up to reality that open borders and acting as if you can just mash drastically different cultures together and expect it to work is about as insane as it gets.

    But then I suppose you're in the dark of what's going on in Europe, how "diversity" has turned Sweden into the rape capital of the world, all the no go zones in Germany, France, Britain, Austria, etc, I wonder where you live, is it in a diverse neighborhood?

    Just curious, is there something in particular Stefan has said since his "fall from Grace" that you have evidence to disprove? I'm all for hearing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    libertarians enjoy losing too much to support a winner like Trump. It would never work.
    Yep, I think if the govt actually did start to shrink they'd all freak out and have no idea what to do. I think sitting here yapping back and forth about how much better they are than the rest of the world is about all they will ever accomplish.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Yea, he's a dumbass white nationalist.

    Murray did the Paleo thing as a political strategy, as he did the New Left thing a couple decades earlier.

    Lew actually believed it.

    Maybe that's all it is (not that that's not bad enough), but I think there's also money involved

    ^^Murray, in his grave, regretting having ever associated himself with this moron.

    Molyneux is a straight up con-man, no principles whatsoever.
    Really now, so do tell, what has Molyneux said that is incorrect? I'd love to see your info that disputes his. Just curious too, how about you tell me why it is only whites are under this obligation to become "multi-cultural"? Why isn't Israel, Japan, China, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Nigeria, SKorea.......well heck, every non-white country on the planet told to "diversify"? Why just whites?

    Also, when exactly will NAmerican and European countries be diverse enough for self-righteous D-Bags such as yourself? When whites are 60% of the pop? 50%? 40, 30, 10, 5? When will we finally have paid our debt for all those long dead slave owners, Nazis, and Indian killers? Or do we just have to be wiped out completely?
    Last edited by hankrichter12; 03-16-2016 at 01:53 AM.

  27. #53
    Walter E. Block?

    Lew, kick this clown off your site.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Walter E. Block?

    Lew, kick this clown off your site.
    Lew has been more supportive of Trump than Block was in this blog post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    libertarians enjoy losing too much to support a winner like Trump. It would never work.
    def successful libertarian - an oxymoron

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    Last edited by cajuncocoa; 08-09-2016 at 07:54 AM.



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    Last edited by cajuncocoa; 08-09-2016 at 07:54 AM.

  33. #58
    False. James B. Powell wrote the newsletters.

  34. #59
    Lew needs site traffic. I believe LRC has been in the red lately. Spent the whole campaign trashing Rand and boosting Trump, makes perfect sense.

  35. #60

    SHOCK Walter Block Forms 'Libertarians for Trump' Group

    Here's his reasoning:

    Suppose we were all slaves, and the master said we could have a democratic election; we could vote for overseer Baddie, who would whip us unmercifully once per day, or overseer Goodie, who would do exactly the same thing, but only once per month. We all voted for the latter. Is this incompatible with libertarianism? Would this make us worse libertarians? Anyone who thinks so does not really understand this philosophy.
    More here:

    http://www.targetliberty.com/2016/03...ertarians.html

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