You have not cited one single item in your post. Support for your national popular vote has fallen.Originally Posted by mvymvy
No, it is not strong among Republicans:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/198917/am...s-sharply.aspx
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This is mvymvy's very first post. Every single one of his posts is against the electoral process for the presidential election.Support the National Popular Vote bill
Massachusetts: Tell the Senate to pass National Popular Vote!
Do you think that the President of the United States should be elected by popular vote — rather than voters in a handful of so-called “swing states” deciding the outcome? Shouldn’t everyone’s vote count equally?
If you said “yes”, please take a moment to email your State Senator in support of National Popular Vote.
http://www.commoncause.org/siteapps/...QIwG&b=4344431
I don't know what kind of troll he is, but at least he stays on point, unlike some of our general demoralization trolls with which we are most familiar.
Last edited by sparebulb; 08-11-2017 at 08:43 PM.
@mvymvy
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...nal-roadblocks
Thoughts?NPV proponents claim no constitutional amendment is needed because the Constitution leaves the appointment of electors to the states.
This is true, but the U.S. Supreme Court will likely object to this plan because it violates the Compact Clause of the Constitution.
The Compact Clause prohibits states from making interstate agreements without Congress’s approval. NPV enthusiasts concede the plan is an interstate compact, but they claim it does not need congressional approval.
The Supreme Court has allowed some interstate agreements without congressional approval, but only those that do not disadvantage states that have not joined the agreement. For example, the Court has allowed agreements resolving state boundaries or multistate tax commissions to exist without congressional approval. However, these are dramatically different from agreeing to intentionally circumvent how the President is elected. Since the NPV compact proposes such a dramatic change to the constitutional system of electing the President, it must be submitted to Congress.
However, Congress is constitutionally incapable of approving the NPV.
The Supreme Court has held that congressional approval of an interstate agreement makes the agreement federal law. The Supremacy Clause prevents Congress from enacting laws contrary to the Constitution.
Congress could not constitutionally create a popular vote system by itself. How could it enact a state-based plan that does the same?
In short, it cannot. Thus, the dilemma facing NPV proponents: the NPV compact must be submitted to Congress but cannot be approved by Congress. Any effort to change the Electoral College system to a national popular vote system will need a constitutional amendment.
NPV is like adding a new rule to an unwilling game of house.
Wait - you're just glossing over the whole Hamilton thing?
Last edited by angelatc; 08-11-2017 at 09:00 PM.
mvymvy quotes CommonCause.org, an organization promoting minimum wage, net neutrality, national popular vote, "broadband for all," continuation of phone subsidies for people, etc.
mvymvy has made a handful of posts since 2008, all of them being about the national popular vote. What kind of person does this? So does he work for Common Cause? Open Society Foundations?
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Whats really weird is that s/he reappeared for this thread. Is there an alarm that's triggered when certain subjects come up? (I know the Jewish community used to have such a system. Probably still do, just more evolved.)
Hmm; that could be. I noticed though that there are threads with the words "electoral college" where mvymvy did not post; however, I notice that a lot of these guys are occasional posters. Either way, these guys aren't some run-of-the-mill college boys goofing on a forum. I'd bet more than even money some of them are with Soros' Open Society Foundation projects.
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probable/possible AI aka: chat bot (not kidding)
Yes, morons.
"The Patriarch"
The interesting thing is there is always some troll meddling on RPF.
Rogue chatbots are taken offline in China after criticising the ruling Communist Party
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Ron Paul and this site sure do spook someone. A lot of these people probably showed up in 2007-08. There were all kinds of articles from Jewish sites and elsewhere in 2008 and 2012 fearing Ron Paul. Like this:
"Ron Paul excluded from Republican Jewish Coalition forum"
Monday 5 December 2011 16.59 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-bans-ron-paul
They were still at it after the 2012 election. From the Southern Poverty Law Center:
"Ron Paul’s New Organization Reportedly Stacked with Extremists"
April 26, 2013
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ked-extremists
Notice that their themes are all the same? They all directly or indirectly favor globalism, centralization, social programs, and the current monetary system of central control and promotion of credit etc. The national popular vote fits that pattern.
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Srsly... Reading then Responding/Conversing/Persuading in text
would be child's play at this point.
Last edited by goldenequity; 08-11-2017 at 10:31 PM.
CPUd seemed to struggle with it, perhaps he wasn't the latest generation?
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
One of these Israeli guys was on RPF. Not sure if he was with this specific program or a similar program.
Article, with excerpts, below:
Israel to pay students to defend it online
AP Published 9:11 a.m. ET Aug. 14, 2013 | Updated 11:47 a.m. ET Aug. 14, 2013
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel is looking to hire university students to post pro-Israel messages on social media networks — without needing to identify themselves as government-linked, officials said Wednesday.
The Israeli prime minister's office said in a statement that students on Israeli university campuses would receive full or partial scholarships to combat anti-Semitism and calls to boycott Israel online. It said students' messages would parallel statements by government officials.
***
An Israeli official said Wednesday that scholarship recipients would be free to decide whether or not to identify themselves as part of the program, which would begin within months.
"Everyone who believes in the cause, and wants to join, can join," he told The Associated Press. He said the office was looking to budget $778,000 for the project, and that the national Israeli student association would select participants from a pool of applicants.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...media/2651715/
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from Youtube's own blog...
Machine Learning
Tuesday, August 1, 2017
YouTube AI to detect and restrict videos containing "hate speech and violent extremism"
results:
Just what the hell is net neutrality? I didn't know the web was a sovereign entity or capable of being.
Is that where the holocaust money goes now?
Last edited by Raginfridus; 08-11-2017 at 11:10 PM.
Net neutrality means the government would force ISPs to treat all types of data equally and not sell priority to video streamers etc.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
So a mandated bottleneck of sorts?
You could call it that.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
The Internet is series of tubes!
lol ok, wise guy, but I'm not the congress trying to regulate the æther.The Internet is series of tubes!
Well, the US gives Israel over 3 billion per year, so you might say that you* are probably paying people to troll your website.
*Assuming you pay US taxes
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This is serious! A broken bot.
The funny thing is the guy was right. Here is an earlier video explaining internet to users clearly showing the internet as series of "tubes". A good watch:
Exactly. remember the "Free NFL Sunday Ticket" packages video providers offered as incentives? This makes sure that doesn't happen. All things must be equal in Prog-ville.
What's really frightening is that young Libertarians are incapable of believing that it's a bad thing. They support government intervention in this market.
Net neutrality means government regulation of ISP's, period. It may start out looking innocent enough but rest assured just like everything else the government oversees, it will grow into a bureaucratic nightmare that stifles competition resulting in the ruin of everything we love about the internet.
- Don't lie.
- Don't cheat.
- Don't steal.
- Don't kill.
- Don't commit adultery.
- Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
- Honor your father and mother.
- Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
- Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
- Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV
Right, but it renders the Electoral College completely useless. NPV is stupid.
- Don't lie.
- Don't cheat.
- Don't steal.
- Don't kill.
- Don't commit adultery.
- Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
- Honor your father and mother.
- Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
- Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
- Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV
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