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Yes, your body is your sacred property.
No, you can not refuse, it is your responsibility to society.
Yes, but only for religious reasons.
No, not if your employer or health insurer requires it.
No, if the government mandates a vaccination.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Your objection to socialism?
P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're enthusiastic for the current administration.
So, how on Earth can you object to socialism?
Do you not know what the word means?
Do you not know that the communist manifesto calls for 'centralization of credit in the hands of the state'?
There are no more capital markets in the United States; it is all a function of the central bank fixing prices.
This is the legacy of the soon to be former Trump administration.
Same as the last, same as the next.
So, what socialism are you worried about?
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Since Human-individual rights are secondary they should not be called libertarian. I think the elites do this intentionally having it all under one umbrella to ensure the libertarian ideals as a whole never pose a threat to the two party system. It is like that with borders also. They know open borders of non-libertarians make libertarian region impossible, thus we have open border libertarians to protect the two party system.
Of course people should be allowed to refuse. We don't and won't live in a country where something is injected in your body at gunpoint.
I won't take it.
I don't care who "allows" me to do anything. I am going to do what the $#@! I want when it comes to my body. Allow...LOL.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
Of course individuals shouldn't be "allowed" to refuse. They might get the erroneous idea that they're actually free.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Yes, if Donald Trump demands it.
No, if Joe Biden demands it.
"It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate
+ REP @Origanalist
I haven't registered or had the bike inspected in years. No building, wiring or addition permits, no dog permits, no burning permits, no CCW or gun reg.
It is a shame that people like to theorize and talk about it, or completely dismiss it, but never put it into practice. An Agorist Primer discusses "risk for profit". I generally recommend folks starting on Page 46 to get a practical understanding, and then start back at the beginning @r3volution 3.0.
Oh, and when I buy my smokes, I never go into a regular store, most of that money is tax which goes to the state. So, whenever I can, I Starve the State.
Like everything, the more you do something the easier it gets ;-)
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
An employer would be acting as a agent of the federal government and would be therefore IMMUNE from Liability
The HHS Secretary is issuing this amendment pursuant to section 319F-3 of the Public Health Service Act to extend liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against COVID-19 authorized under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act.
"The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services (the Secretary) to issue a Declaration to provide liability immunity to certain individuals and entities (Covered Persons) against any claim of loss caused by, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from the manufacture, distribution, administration, or use of medical countermeasures (Covered Countermeasures), except for claims involving “willful misconduct” as defined in the PREP Act. Under the PREP Act, a Declaration may be amended as circumstances warrant."
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.DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
As per usual you are WRONG
WE THE PEOPLE are being asked to elect a President
the choices that we have are
Trump
and Biden
Neither one is a Libertarian,
So the question before me is WHICH ONE WILL CAUSE THE ****LEAST**** AMOUNT OF DAMAGE
Donald J Trump is the answer.
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As Libertarians we must use our political supremacy to wrest by degree all power from the central government and remove all instruments of production from the state.
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
So if I am walking along the street and happen to encounter 1. A bucket of pig sh|t 2. A bucket of donkey sh|t - I should pick one to take home with me instead of leaving both behind?
LOL I have not given my CONSENT since 2012 and I have no plans to start again. I'll let the statists figure out whether they CONSENT to Communism or Fascism.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
"The Patriarch"
As a public service tip for PAF , donkey $#@! does not smell as bad as pig $#@! but pigs taste better .
I used to roll all the time, and that is actually economical for folks who don't have other options :-)
A couple hour drive to the Indian Reservation gets me a carton of bagged rolled cigarettes for $12. I typically buy 12 cartons for $144, and no money goes to the state; Indian Reservations are exempt
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Yet more irrational irrelevant nonsense.
A Libertarian having to cope in a non Libertarian world does not a statist make.
Most Americans love the gargantuan welfare/warfare police state.
An ASTUTE Libertarian finds a way to survive in those treacherous waters. As long as I have a choice to elect my tormentor I will choose he/she who is less tyrannical towards me and mine.
Just as a Jew survived in Nazi Germany by denying his religion.
I failed to see the benefits of self immolation- but to each his own.
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Statism
noun
the principle or policy of concentrating extensive economic, political, and related controls in the state at the cost of individual liberty
Agorism
a social philosophy that advocates creating a society in which all relations between people are voluntary exchanges by means of counter-economics
I Do Not Consent to Communism or Fascism, therefore, I will not pick lessers of evil. That would violate my principles, as well as initiating force against others.
An Agorist Primer
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Why would anybody take a vaccine that is 95% effective over an illness that has a 99% recovery rating?
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
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