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    Big Pharma and Mainstream Media Attack Coconut Oil with Mis-information

    The Public’s Growing Awareness of Coconut Oil’s Health Benefits is Clearly a Threat to Big Pharma’s Drugs

    by Brian Shilhavy
    Editor, Health Impact News

    In what appears to be a coordinated attack against the rising popularity of coconut oil, the American Heart Association (AHA) has just published a “Presidential Advisory” on “Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease” in which it condemned coconut oil, and recommended that people not consume it.

    The AHA’s recommendation clearly contradicts research that exists on not only coconut oil but saturated fats in general, which debunks the old lipid theory of heart disease that saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease.

    Yet, the mainstream corporate-funded media published its recommendations with no critical analysis or journalistic investigations into the AHA’s claims.

    Here is an example of the headlines currently published by the corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media and promoted by Google News:


    Coconut Oil: A Traditional Healthy Fat in the Food Chain for Thousands of Years

    Living in the Philippines with my family in the late 1990s, I was able to observe firsthand how cultures like the Philippines who consume coconut oil as their main dietary oil in a traditional diet, a diet high in saturated fat, do not suffer from many of the western diseases in old age as much as westerners, including heart disease.

    It led me to investigate this apparent paradox from what I had learned growing up in the U.S., and I soon published my findings on the Internet beginning in 2001. That growing body of research is now documented at CoconutOil.com, and is the Internet’s oldest website on the research regarding coconut oil, and other topics such as saturated fats, cholesterol, etc.



    The scientific research behind the health benefits of coconut oil and good saturated fats in general is too numerous to reference in this article. We have an entire website documenting that research, and I have written a book about it as well.


    Virgin Coconut Oil: How it has changed people’s lives, and how it can change yours!

    Lipid Theory of Heart Disease: A Theory Thoroughly Debunked by Science


    This Time Magazine cover story from 2014 admitted that the theory condemning saturated fat as bad was wrong, and not based on science.

    What “journalists” in the corporate-sponsored mainstream media fail to cover when they publish the AHA’s recommendations, is that their recommendations that people not consume coconut oil and saturated fats in general, is based on a belief, not actual science.

    The belief is based on the now debunked lipid theory of heart disease, which states that consumption of saturated fats leads to elevated levels of cholesterol, which leads to an increase in heart disease.

    Ancel Keyes was the original researcher to put forward this theory, which was later adopted by Congress as part of USDA dietary advice, and his research has been completely discredited. (See: Ancel Keys Was Wrong about Heart Disease and Cholesterol)

    Therefore, even the AHA’s “current” studies don’t actually prove that coconut oil is harmful. They start with the basic assumption that high cholesterol levels lead to heart disease, but that theory has never been proved by science, and in fact the science actually points to the opposite, that people with high levels of cholesterol actually live longer than those with low cholesterol. (See also: Japanese Research Exposes Statin Scam: People with High Cholesterol Live Longer)

    Cholesterol used to be only labeled as “bad” and something to lower with drugs. But then in more recent times it was divided into two categories, “good” and “bad” cholesterol.

    However, even this concept of cholesterol is not entirely accurate, as our bodies need both types of cholesterol to survive. (See: There Is Only One Type of Cholesterol: All of it Beneficial)

    Even if one were to continue believing that LDL cholesterol is “bad,” the AHA’s assertion that coconut oil raises LDL and is therefore harmful is without merit, because research on coconut oil shows that it actually raises HDL cholesterol (considered “good”) more than LDL, and that ratio is considered a better heart health marker. Studies show that coconut oil consumption actually increases that ratio favorably, and there are numerous studies now showing that coconut oil is “heart healthy” in the peer-reviewed literature. Here is a sample:

    Study: Coconut Oil Helps Hypertension – Science Based Health Benefits of Coconut Oil Keep Increasing

    Study: Coconut Oil’s Lauric Acid Reduces High Blood Pressure

    Study: Virgin Coconut Oil Effective in Treating High Blood Pressure

    Study: Traditional Virgin Coconut Oil High in Antioxidants and Reduces Oxidative Stress in Heart, Kidney, and Liver

    New Extensive Research From Sri Lanka Shows Coconut Oil Has No Risk to CVD, and that Coconut Residue has Great Promise for Treating Heart Disease

    Coconut Oil and Heart Disease

    Coconut Oil is Beneficial for Your Heart: Shining the Truth on Mainstream Media’s Negative Attacks Against Coconut Oil

    Are Big Pharma and Mainstream Media Continuing to Attack Coconut Oil to Protect Their Drug Market?

    It is a well-known fact that historically drugs designed to lower cholesterol (statins) have been the most prescribed and most profitable drugs in the history of mankind. It is a a $100 billion a year industry.

    The cholesterol-lowering drug Lipitor is the best-selling drug of all time, grossing over $140 billion, with no serious close competitors in the history of pharmaceutical drugs.

    It wasn’t until after the patent on Lipitor ran out opening the door for cheaper generics to flood the market that the FDA finally publish warnings on the side effects of statin drugs, which include liver injury, memory loss, diabetes, muscle damage, and Type 2 diabetes.

    One out of every four Americans over the age of 50 is taking a statin drug to lower their cholesterol, so this is a huge market that depends upon the success of the lipid theory of heart disease.

    One of the best documentaries exposing the statin scam and interviewing doctors in the industry who have exposed it, was published in 2013 on ABC in Australia. The medical authorities were not successful in preventing it from being aired on TV, but they forced ABC to remove them from their website.

    We currently are using copies available on YouTube. Take some time to watch these important documentaries produced by medical doctors on the statin drug scam, and be informed!

    HEART OF THE MATTER Part 1: The Cholesterol Myth: Dietary Villains



    HEART OF THE MATTER Part 2: The Cholesterol Drug War



    Expect Big Pharma and Their Mainstream Media to Continue Attacks Against Coconut Oil

    While living in the Philippines in the late 1990s and early 2000s, I was one of the first ones to publish research on the Internet regarding the health benefits of coconut oil. We started using traditional methods to produce a hand-made coconut oil that was not over-refined and mass produced by machine.

    By 2002 we were exporting this hand-made coconut oil to the U.S., and we were the first ones to bring a “Virgin Coconut Oil” from the Philippines to the U.S. market.

    In 2005 the FDA issued warnings letters against us and Dr. Mercola, who was also selling our Virgin Coconut Oil at the time. They accused us of selling an “unapproved drug.”

    We had to hire an expensive attorney to help us through the regulatory issues of marketing this new kind of coconut oil in the U.S., and we were forced to strip all references to scientific studies or customer testimonials as to the health benefits of coconut oil from our website Tropical Traditions where the coconut oil was sold.

    This was my first experience in understanding how any natural substance that can help or cure disease that is not part of the pharmaceutical industry is suppressed and censored in the United States by those who wish to make those products available to the public.

    This was the genesis of Health Impact News website and the Health Impact News network, as we seek to educate the public on news that impacts your health but that the mainstream media is censoring, mainly due to the fact that the pharmaceutical industry is one of the largest sponsors of the dying corporate-based mainstream media.

    The mainstream media, in complying with this censorship of life-saving health information, is now a huge danger to public health.

    Shortly after the AHA published their recommendations that were then republished without question or journalistic investigation by the mainstream media, I received the following inquiry as editor of Health Impact News:

    Coconut oil has saved my life and my Memory! I am very disturbed about all these news reports etc about coconut oil and the raising of BAD cholesterol! PLEASE What are your thoughts or information on THIS subject! LOVE Coconut OIL!
    One of the next new huge market potentials for the pharmaceutical industry is developing drugs that treat neurological diseases such as Alzheimer’s Disease and Parkinson’s Disease. There is strong evidence that the pharmaceutical industry, with their cholesterol-lowering statin drug products, is complicit with the alarming rise in these neurological diseases, as our brains need to cholesterol to function properly, particularly later in life.

    With Alzheimer’s disease in particular, people are seeing remarkable results from incorporating coconut oil into their diet. (See: New Alzheimer’s Drugs Continue to Fail Where Coconut Oil Shines.)

    So as coconut oil continues to gain in popularity and become a threat to dangerous pharmaceutical products, expect the attacks in the corporate-sponsored mainstream media to continue.

    Full article at CoconutOil.com
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    Yeah the pHARMa lobby is loving the deception.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Living in the Philippines with my family in the late 1990s, I was able to observe firsthand how cultures like the Philippines who consume coconut oil as their main dietary oil in a traditional diet, a diet high in saturated fat, do not suffer from many of the western diseases in old age as much as westerners, including heart disease.
    Life expectancy in the Philippines is almost 20 years LESS than it is in the US and their #1 killer is cardiac disease (which is also the #1 killer in the US). They are #126 (near the bottom) in life expectancy for males and #117 for females. US is #33 in both. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/w...vs-philippines

    They are #29 in terms of coronary heart disease. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/p...-heart-disease

    Not a good choice to try to prove they are healthier.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-18-2017 at 05:08 PM.

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    Typical argument from Zip picking out his own data to dispute and arguing with himself. Nothing is mentioned here about life expectancy, which is almost always directly correlated to poverty.

    Heart disease has only become prevalent in the Philippines in modern times, and that directly correlates to the population abandoning their traditional diets in favor of western type foods and western dietary advice (like the AHA report in the OP), which condemned coconut oil and saturated fats since the 1970s. Polyunsaturated fats have increased, as they have in the U.S.

    According to the Global Burden of Disease Study for the Philippines, heart disease was #2 in 2010, and #4 in 1990. Source.

    You can find the same thing true in the U.S., you just have to go back further in time, probably prior to 1950, to find a time when heart disease was not #1. Expeller-pressed seed oils (polyunsaturated oils such as corn and soy) did not enter the food chain until the industrial age took over right around WWII.

    Prior to that, saturated fats were considered healthy, and the mainstay of the traditional American diet (think butter, beef tallow, and lard). Heart disease was not #1 back then.

    Another reference:

    COCONUT OIL: Atherogenic or Not?

    Philippine Journal
    Of
    CARDIOLOGY
    July-September 2003, Volume 31 Number 3:97-104

    Conrado S. Dayrit, MD, FPCC, FPCP, FACC***

    Summary

    According to the universally accepted Lipid-Heart Theory, high saturated fats cause
    hypercholesterolemia and coronary heart disease. Coronary morbidity and mortality are
    said to be highest in the countries and peoples consuming the highest amounts of saturated
    fats. Coconut oil, with its saturated medium chain fats, has been especially condemned for
    this reason. The true facts are just the opposite. The countries consuming the highest
    amounts of coconut oil – the Polynesians, Indonesians, Sri Lankans, Indians, Filipinos –
    have not only low serum cholesterol but also low coronary heart disease rates – morbidity
    and mortality.

    The reason why coconut oil cannot be atherogenic is basic. Coco oil consists
    predominantly of 65% medium chain fatty acids (MCFA) and MCFAs are metabolized
    rapidly in the liver to energy and do not participate in the biosynthesis and transport of
    cholesterol. Coconut oil, in fact, tends to raise the HDL and lower the LDL:HDL ratio.
    Coco oil is not deposited in adipose tissues and therefore does not lead to obesity. It is
    primarily an energy supplier and as fast a supplier of energy as sugar. MCFAs therefore
    differ in their metabolism from all the long chain fatty acids, whether saturated or
    unsaturated.

    The pathogenesis of atherosclerosis has recently taken a complete paradigm shift – from a
    simple deposition of cholesterol and cholesterol esters to an inflammatory condition where
    numerous genetically dependent factors – dyslipoproteinemias, dysfunctions of endothelial
    and other cells leading to invasions of the subendothelial region by macrophages, smooth
    muscle cells, leukocytes and T cells – all interplay in a scenario still not fully understood.
    This will be discussed at length and whatever role fat deposition plays appears late in
    atherogenesis and secondary to oxidation process and the overriding role of the
    dysfunctional endothelium. Coconut oil has no role at all to play in this highly complex
    and still ill understood process.

    Full Study.
    Last edited by Created4; 06-18-2017 at 10:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Life expectancy in the Philippines is almost 20 years LESS than it is in the US and their #1 killer is cardiac disease (which is also the #1 killer in the US). They are #126 (near the bottom) in life expectancy for males and #117 for females. US is #33 in both. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/w...vs-philippines

    They are #29 in terms of coronary heart disease. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/p...-heart-disease

    Not a good choice to try to prove they are healthier.
    Life expectancy is affected by my factors and only a fraction of it is old age related diseases. Infant mortality, safe roads, access to govt sponsored healthcare for the masses (yes I went there) all heavily affect life expectancy. It is the IQ equivalence of measuring health status of a society.

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    Yeah, he's really good at #12.

    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Typical argument from Zip picking out his own data to dispute and arguing with himself. Nothing is mentioned here about life expectancy, which is almost always directly correlated to poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGambler View Post
    Yeah, he's really good at #12.
    Yep, straw man argument. Zippy's favorite tactic for dis-information.
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    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Life expectancy in the Philippines is almost 20 years LESS than it is in the US and their #1 killer is cardiac disease (which is also the #1 killer in the US). They are #126 (near the bottom) in life expectancy for males and #117 for females. US is #33 in both. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/w...vs-philippines

    They are #29 in terms of coronary heart disease. http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/p...-heart-disease

    Not a good choice to try to prove they are healthier.
    Really? By what measure?

    According to your chart, the Philippines ranks higher (better) than the US in 11 out of 16 categories of cancer. Here is how much the Philippines beats the US in these selected categories of cancer:


    lymphomas +132
    lung cancer +54
    Leukemia +87
    skin cancer + 135
    bladder cancer +115
    pancreatic cancer +89
    ovarian cancer +61
    Esophageal cancer +73
    uterin cancer +87


    The US ranks "poor" in four cancer categories. Philippines does not rank poor in any cancer categories.

    You are 10x more likely to have heart disease as a cause of death in the US.

    Coconut oil is general used for degenerative diseases, not acute diseases. I suspect the statistics might even be skewed because a lot of the stats are from metro areas. Rural areas often don't even have good recording keeping. My wife, for example, was born in a very rural area, but went to college in metro Manila. Her birth certificate is wrong.

    I can also back up the evidence with my anecdotal observation. I've been there six times, spent some time there, and got married there. My father-in-law did very well with his health spending time at the beach (ocean salt water).

    Nice attempt at contrarian posting instead of trying to learn something. You are getting a neg rep for that. Next time, use your eyes and not your mouth. Listen more; talk less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    .Prior to that, saturated fats were considered healthy, and the mainstay of the traditional American diet (think butter, beef tallow, and lard). Heart disease was not #1 back then.
    Cigarettes were #1 back then- cigarette use has dropped considerably since then and so has its related diseases/ illnesses. Also people consumed more fresh fruits and vegetables to go along with it and were more physically active. Cigarettes were once considered healthy and recommended by doctors. Now we know better.

    Coconut oil is neither good nor bad unless you are consuming large amounts of it (like almost any food item).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-19-2017 at 04:37 PM.

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    #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Cigarettes were #1 back then- cigarette use has dropped considerably since then and so has its related diseases/ illnesses. Also people consumed more fresh fruits and vegetables to go along with it and were more physically active. Cigarettes were once considered healthy and recommended by doctors. Now we know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    . Cigarettes were once considered healthy and recommended by doctors. Now we know better.

    ).
    Bull$#@!. I've got a medical book from the late 1800's right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Bull$#@!. I've got a medical book from the late 1800's right here.


    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post


    Was about to post this, of all things to attack Zippy on, it is on the one issue he got right where there are tons of documented evidence backing it up. Yes, the cigarette companies had a long running campaign of recruiting doctors and medical professional to make the claim that not only are cigarettes not bad for you, it is indeed good for you.
    @angelatc what did your medical book from 1800 say about cigarettes or tobacco smoking?

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    Smokers do not good organ donors make.

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    https://www.healio.com/hematology-on...ested-approved

    Cigarettes were once ‘physician’ tested, approved

    In the grand scope of the history of medicine, the relationship between doctors and patients has changed quite a bit in recent years. The internet and direct-to-consumer advertising have empowered patients to become active participants in their health care. However, it was not always this way.

    For a long time, physicians were the authority on health. Patients trusted in their doctors' education and expertise and, for the most part, followed their advice. When health concerns about cigarettes began to receive public attention in the 1930s, tobacco companies took preemptive action. They capitalized on the public’s trust of physicians in order to quell concerns about the dangers of smoking. Thus was born the use of physicians in cigarette advertisements

    “When you knit this together into a full story, the scope of it and the way it duped the public was just incredible,” said Robert K. Jackler, MD, Sewall Professor and Chair, otolaryngology – head and neck surgery at Stanford University Medical Center. “The public was becoming increasingly worried about the health consequences of cigarettes. They started to refer to cigarettes as coffin nails and started talking about smoker’s cough and smoker’s hack. The companies saw a threat to their success and business model.”

    Executives at tobacco companies knew they had to take action to suppress the public’s fears about tobacco products. “Tobacco companies asked themselves: How can we go about reassuring the public that particularly cigarettes, but also cigars and pipes, are not harmful?” Jackler told HemOnc Today. The answer was to use medical research and physicians to show the public that cigarettes were not harmful. Although the doctors in these advertisements were always actors and not real physicians, the image of the physician permeated cigarette ads for the next two and a half decades.

    Famous campaigns

    During the 1920s, Lucky Strike was the dominant cigarette brand. This brand, made by American Tobacco Company, was the first to use the image of a physician in its advertisements. “20,679 physicians say ‘Luckies are less irritating,” its advertisements proclaimed. The advertising firm that promoted Lucky Strikes had sent physicians free cartons of the cigarettes and asked them whether Lucky Strikes were less irritating to ‘sensitive and tender’ throats. The company claimed that its toasting process made its cigarettes a smoother smoke.

    By the mid-1930s, Lucky Strike had some competition. A new advertising campaign for Philip Morris referred to research conducted by physicians. One ad claimed that after prescribing Philip Morris brand cigarettes to patients with irritated throats, “every case of irritation cleared completely or definitely improved.” This series of advertisements, along with others referring to “proof” of superiority, made Philip Morris a major cigarette brand for the first time in its history.

    “There was an interesting paradox in the ads. In one ad a company would say cigarettes aren’t harmful and then in other ads they would say our cigarettes are less harmful than the other brands,” Jackler said. “You would get things like ‘not one case of throat irritation’ with a picture of a throat doctor holding a throat mirror wearing a mirror on his forehead.”

    One of the most famous of the campaigns of this era was the “More Doctors” campaign for RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company’s Camels brand cigarettes. These ads, which appeared in magazines from Time to Ladies’ Home Journal, claimed that according to a nationwide survey, “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette!” These ads pictured doctors in labs, sitting back at their desk or speaking with patients. “The idea was that if you show a physician being an enthusiastic partaker in smoking, the public gets the notion, ‘With what doctors know, if they choose to smoke this brand it must be a safer, better brand,’ or the public thought that smoking itself must be OK,” Jackler said.

    Flip side of the coin

    Physicians were also not immune to the addictions of cigarettes and tobacco products and tobacco companies knew it. Many physicians still doubted that there was a wide-spread connection between smoking and disease. Instead it was believed that only certain individuals' health was affected by smoking; it was thought to be a case-by-case situation.

    Tobacco companies targeted this thought process by telling physicians that if patients are going to smoke cigarettes regardless of what was advised for their health, at least prescribe for them a ‘healthier’ brand of cigarettes.

    “There were big ad campaigns with hundreds of ads in medical journals,” Jackler said. “For example, there is an ad showing a physician writing on a prescription pad, ‘For your patients with sore throats and cough, Phillip Morris cigarettes.’”

    The pages of The New England Journal of Medicine and The Journal of the American Medical Association were home to many tobacco advertisements throughout the 1930s, 1940s and beyond. However, tobacco companies’ courtship of physicians did not end in medical journals.

    “Cigarette companies also wanted doctors to smoke their brands,” Jackler said. Companies like Phillip Morris and RJ Reynolds participated in medical conventions by sponsoring doctors’ lounges and giving away free cigarettes. But the most inventive method to influence physicians was RJ Reynolds’s creation of its Medical Relations Division. This ‘division’ was based out of an RJ Reynolds advertising firm and focused on promoting Camels cigarettes by finding researchers who could substantiate the medical claims that the company was making in advertisements. Now the company was able to refer to research findings in their advertisements, both to consumers and to physicians.

    Giving up the fight

    In the late 1940s and early 1950s, a transition began to appear in these ads. Advertisements for Camels began to incorporate a ‘try it for yourself’ approach. Although the ads still pictured physicians proclaiming cigarettes to be less irritating, they also now encouraged consumers to test the cigarettes themselves: “The test was really fun! Every Camel tasted so good! And I didn’t need my doctor’s report to know Camels are mild!”

    But it was only a matter of time until science caught up to the advertising. By the mid-1950s more research was being published that confirmed a link between tobacco products and lung cancer. Growing concerns among the public about the dangers of smoking cigarettes meant the slow disappearance of the ‘physician’ from cigarettes ads. Slowly, the tobacco companies began to band together as they realized that their entire industry was in danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Was about to post this, of all things to attack Zippy on, it is on the one issue he got right where there are tons of documented evidence backing it up. Yes, the cigarette companies had a long running campaign of recruiting doctors and medical professional to make the claim that not only are cigarettes not bad for you, it is indeed good for you.
    @angelatc what did your medical book from 1800 say about cigarettes or tobacco smoking?
    That "doctors used to say smoking was healthy too" is a strawman, probably created by an anti-vaxxer.

    Those are commercials you're posting. Yes it's true that the cigarette companies published propaganda science but the real scientists called bull$#@! the entire time.

    The book I have here talks about the coughs and breathing problems that seemed to affect smokers disproportionately. Also noting that they were seemingly more prone to lip cancer and throat cancer.

    The Surgeon General's warning didn't appear out of the blue - it came about because the "real" scientists were pissed that the propaganda was misleading the public.
    .



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    Many physicians still doubted that there was a wide-spread connection between smoking and disease. Instead it was believed that only certain individuals' health was affected by smoking; it was thought to be a case-by-case situation
    THis is actually true. Lots of people smoke almost their entire lives with little to no side effects.

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    #17

    Not really a thread on the historical view of the health benefits of cigarettes, way to throw the thread off topic.

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    10 Mind Blowing Reasons Why You Need Coconut Oil In Your Life
    http://www.naturallivingideas.com/10...-in-your-life/


    Coconut oil is associated with a beneficial lipid profile in pre-menopausal women in the Philippines.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21669587

    Effects of dietary coconut oil on the biochemical and anthropometric profiles of women presenting abdominal obesity.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term="Lipids"[Jour]+AND+44[volume]+AND+2009[pdat]+AND+ferreira[author]

    Effect of coconut oil in plaque related gingivitis - A preliminary report.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25838632

    MARY ENIG, Ph.D. ON CHOLESTEROL, HIV, AND COCONUT OIL
    http://coconutresearchcenter.org/art...d-coconut-oil/

    Coconut Oil Miracle: Where is the Evidence?
    http://www.thinkinginbinary.net/crc/...-the-evidence/

    Antistress and antioxidant effects of virgin coconut oil in vivo
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4247320/

    Alzheimer’s Disease: What If There Was A Cure?
    http://coconutketones.com
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    only one question.. what took big pharma so long to piss on coconut oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    only one question.. what took big pharma so long to piss on coconut oil?
    Nothing. They've been doing it for years, and not just big pharma. When the Japanese occupied the Philippines during WWII, and the main source of coconut oil disrupted, American technology was developed to express oil from crops that had never before been used for edible oils, mainly soy and corn. They began to dominate the edible oil industry, and attacks were launched against the "tropical oils" because they were high in saturated fats.

    But big pharma has been attacking coconut oil since the 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    only one question.. what took big pharma so long to piss on coconut oil?
    Positive results.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Coconut oil is neither good nor bad unless you are consuming large amounts of it (like almost any food item).
    No. I eat raw coconut oil (I eat everything raw). You simply can't eat large amounts or you will get very sick. I rubbed it on our dog when he was losing his hair. It helped. I put it in his food. He's turning 21 years old this month. My wife uses it on her face and her face glows. A lot of people think she's a teenager in high school or just out, and I am not kidding when I say that.

    You can go on and on about your studies to "prove" it. If I'm around poison ivy in our yard, then I take a good shower by really rubbing my skin. It stops the poison ivy. If I get poison ivy, then I rub fresh aloe on it. If I do that 20 times and it helps 20 times, then I draw a reasonable conclusion. It's my observation, which is really what science is about.

    You can wring your hands. You can run around like a chicken with it's head cut off trying to figure out something so simple as how to eat. I'm not waiting around.
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    In Defense of Coconut Oil: Rebuttal to USA Today

    By: Ali Le Vere, B.S., B.S.

    By now, I'm sure you've seen the USA Today article entitled, "Coconut oil isn't healthy. It's never been healthy". Fear-mongering, attention-grabbing headlines certainly sell copy, but do not make for evidence-informed, high quality science reporting.

    As I expressed in my recent post on social media,

    "The internet is full of erroneous claims. Science writers who forgo the nuances of empirical findings in the interest of sensational headlines.

    False extrapolations made by people unequipped to interpret the research. Speculations by bloggers who missed the correlation-does-not-equal-causation lesson in epidemiology.

    Over-generalizations from poorly designed, low quality in vitro and animal studies and studies that failed the test of statistical significance. Industry-funded, conflict-of-interest ridden rhetoric.

    From eating for your blood type, to saturated fat causing heart disease, to heart-healthy whole wheat, to coffee causing gluten cross reactivity---in the natural and mainstream health communities alike, people take an idea and run with it without once going back to the primary and secondary literature to verify its scientific veracity.

    The lack of scientific rigor that abounds in many corners of natural medicine is part of the reason that alternative medicine is marginalized by mainstream medicine. However, conventional medicine is equally culpable when it comes to its standards of care lacking a firm evidence-base.

    I hope to fill this void, apply a scientific eye, and impart credence to therapeutic nutrition and holistic medicine by substantiating all my claims with high quality scientific data---instead of pulling statements out of thin air, which sadly is commonplace with headline-grabbing, yet substantive discussion-lacking online articles."
    The USA Today article, written in response to an American Heart Association (AHA) statement advising Americans to replace saturated fat with omega-6 rich polyunsaturated fatty acids from vegetable oils, exemplifies the lack of journalistic integrity, rushing to conclusions, and flagrant misrepresentation of the data to which I was referring.

    The Omega-3 to Omega-6 Ratio Determines Inflammatory Potential
    Contrary to the implications of this USA Today piece, the evidence has elucidated that omega-6 fatty acids, which occur in the corn, cottonseed, canola, safflower, sunflower, and soybean oil that the AHA was recommending, promote carcinogenesis, whereas omega-3 fatty acids inhibit cancer development (Seaman, 2002). Hence, the Standard American Diet, rich in omega-6 fatty acid consumption, generates the pro-inflammatory state that facilitates tumorigenesis (Rose, 1997).

    The detrimental effects of omega-6s are articulated by Fernandes and Venkatraman (1993), with,

    “The increased consumption of many vegetable oils particularly of the n-6 series is…viewed as pro-inflammatory and is suspected as one of the possible causes for the rise in certain malignant tumors, rheumatoid arthritis and autoimmune diseases primarily due to the increased production of pro-inflammatory cytokines” (p. S19).
    In contrast, long-chain omega-3 fatty acids from wild-caught fatty seafood, such as docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) can modify dynamics of the lipid bilayer, including elastic compressability and membrane permeability, promote membrane fluidity, and favorably modify membrane-bound protein activity (Stillwell & Wassall, 2003).

    Thus, DHA is preventive in many inflammatory disorders, including cancer, cardiovascular disease, and neurodegenerative disease (Stillwell & Wassal, 2003). Specifically, DHA mitigates neuro-inflammation as it facilitates more efficient nerve cell communication (Crawford et al., 2013). The brains of patients with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) are deficient in DHA, and loss of structural and functional integrity of the brain correlates with loss of DHA concentrations in cell membranes in these patients (Seaman, 2002).

    DHA and its long chain omega-3 precursor, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), are likewise involved in modulation of immune responses. In one study, supplementation of these fatty acids prolonged remission of systemic lupus erythematous (SLE) (Das, 1994). In another autoimmune disease, rheumatoid arthritis, omega-3 supplementation was found to suppress the production of inflammatory cytokines and eicosanoids involved in the pathogenesis of the disease (Morin, Blier, & Fortin, 2015). Mechanistically, long chain omega-3 fatty acids suppress proliferation of pathogenic T cells and inhibit synthesis of inflammatory cytokines such as tumor necrosis factor (TNF), interleukin-1 (IL-1), and interleukin-2 (IL-2) (Das, 1994).

    The dietary balance of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids, which compete for incorporation into the phospholipid bilayer of cellular membranes, is integral for restoration of immune health and for prevention of long-latency, chronic, and degenerative diseases.

    In order to generate optimal ratios of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids, ditch the toxic industrialized vegetable oils, and moderate consumption of grains and seeds as well, since they contain linoleic acid, the precursor to the omega-6 fatty acid arachidonic acid.



    As I illustrated above, arachidonic acid is processed by the enzyme cyclooxygenase (COX) to produce pro-inflammatory signaling molecules called eicosanoids, including leukotrienes, prostaglandins, and thromboxanes. Omega-3 fatty acids, on the other hand, promote the production of less inflammatory mediators. Therefore, USA Today’s recommendation to increase consumption of pro-inflammatory vegetable oils, amidst an epidemic of inflammatory chronic diseases, is negligent and irresponsible.

    Applying an Ethnographic and Evolutionary Biology Lens
    Of all the diets, an ancestral paleolithic diet reminiscent of ancient foragers has the most optimal omega-6 to omega-3 ratio, of 1:1 (Simopoulos, 1991). Traditional hunter-gatherer cultures whose diets are composed of grass-fed game, pasture-raised poultry and eggs, wild-caught seafood, organic, local fruits and vegetables, roots and tubers, nuts and seeds are virtually free of the long-latency, degenerative diseases that plague Westerners.

    Eskimos, for instance, who eat a high fish-based diet replete in omega-3s and very low in omega-6s, do not suffer from any of the diseases of modernity, including cancer, diabetes, heart disease, diverticulitis, appendicitis, gallstones, or autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, or ulcerative colitis (Sinclair, 1981; Nettleton, 1995; Calder, 1998).

    In contrast, the Standard American Diet, customary in Western cultures where non-communicable chronic diseases reach epidemic levels, has an omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acid ratio ranging from 10:1 to 25:1 (Simopoulos, 1991). This is largely due to the inclusion of pro-inflammatory, high-heat processed vegetable oils, which are subject to chemically-laden processes such as caustic refining, bleaching, and degumming, and then have to be chemically deodorized to negate rancidity.

    In addition to minimizing vegetable oil intake, incorporating plenty of wild-caught, cold-water fatty fish, including mackerel, salmon, herring, caviar, and sardines, can enhance omega-3 levels. Crawford (1968) also demonstrated that wild animals eating their native diets have significantly more omega-3s compared to domesticated livestock. Grass-fed meat, for example, is replete in omega-3 fatty acids and antioxidants such as beta carotene and vitamin E compared to its conventional corn-fed counterparts, so incorporating grass-fed meat into your diet can restore balance in your fatty acid ratio (Daley et al., 2010).

    Busting the Cholesterol Myth
    Of note, is that the USA Today article vilified coconut oil on the basis that it raises LDL cholesterol. However, the most recent Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee (DGAC) removed dietary cholesterol as a nutrient of concern, given that there is "no appreciable relationship between dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol or clinical cardiovascular events in general populations,” so cholesterol content should not deter you from consumption of saturated fat (Mozaffarian & Ludwig, 2015, p. 2421).

    Low total cholesterol, formerly believed to be protective against cardiovascular disease, has been demonstrated to have a litany of ill effects. In particular, women with a total cholesterol below 195 mg/dL have a higher risk of mortality compared to women with cholesterol above this cut-off (Petrusson, Sigurdsson, Bengtsson, Nilsen, & Getz, 2012).

    Low cholesterol has been correlated with Alzheimer’s disease, dementia, suicide, homicide, accidental deaths, and morbid depression (Boscarino, Erlich, & Hoffman, 2009; Morgan, Palinkas, Barrett-Connor, & Wingard, 1993, Mielke et al., 2005; Seneff, Wainwright, & Mascitelli, 2011).

    In a group of men 50 years and older, researchers found depression to be three times more common in the group with low plasma cholesterol (Morgan, Palinkas, Barrett-Connor, & Wingard, 1993). Shockingly, men with total cholesterol below 165 m/dL were also found to be seven times more likely to die prematurely from unnatural causes, including suicide and accidents (Boscarino, Erlich, & Hoffman, 2009).

    In fact, Morgan, Palinkas, Barrett-Connor, and Winged (1993) articulate this with, “In several clinical trials of interventions designed to lower plasma cholesterol, reductions in coronary heart disease mortality have been offset by an unexplained rise in suicides and other violent deaths” (p. 75).

    In essence, in progressive circles, the cholesterol-demonizing, artery-clogging model of heart disease has been redacted in favor of one where inflammation leads to endothelial and vascular smooth muscle dysfunction as well as oxidative stress. Like firefighters at a fire, cholesterol is present at the scene of the crime, but it is not the perpetrator---rather, it is a protective antioxidant element that repairs damage to arteries.

    Moreover, cholesterol is an important precursor to our steroid hormones and bile acids, a membrane constituent that helps maintain structural integrity and fluidity, and an essential component for transmembrane transport, cell signaling, and nerve conduction.

    Saturated Fat is Not Bad For You
    Further, the recommendations of the AHA are especially surprising in light of the results of the Minnesota Coronary Experiment performed forty years ago, where the saturated fat in the diets of 9000 institutionalized mental patients was replaced with polyunsaturated fats in the form of corn oil. A 2010 re-evaluation of the data from this experiment was published in the British Medical Journal (Ramsden et al., 2016).

    According to this re-analysis, these patients experienced a 22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL reduction in serum cholesterol (Ramsden et al., 2016). Thus, although substituting saturated fat for omega-6 fats led to reductions in cholesterol, these patients suffered poorer health outcomes, highlighting that cholesterol is not the villain it was formerly construed to be.

    What's more, although the USA Today article declares the dangers of saturated fat, a recent meta-analysis in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, which compiled data from 21 studies including 347,747 people that were followed for an average of 14 years, concluded that there is no appreciable relationship between saturated fat consumption and incidence of cardiovascular disease or stroke (Siri-Tarino, Sun, Hu, & Krauss, 2010).

    Another meta-analysis published in 2015 in the British Journal of Medicine concluded that there is no association between saturated fat and risk of cardiovascular disease, coronary heart disease, ischemic stroke, type 2 diabetes, or all-cause mortality (the risk of death from any cause) (de Souza et al., 2015).

    Along similar lines, a trial published in the American Journal of Nutrition in 2016 showed that eating a high fat diet, and deriving a large proportion of calories from saturated fat, improved biomarkers of cardiometabolic risk and insulin resistance, such as insulin, HDL, triglycerides, C-peptide, and glycated hemoglobin (Veum et al., 2016). The researchers conclude, "Our data do not support the idea that dietary fat per se promotes ectopic adiposity and cardiometabolic syndrome in humans" (Veum et al., 2016).

    In actuality, saturated fat has been demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on levels of triglycerides and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL), the latter of which has been characterized as the "good cholesterol” that scavenges or transports cholesterol deposited in the bloodstream back to the liver (Mensink, Zock, Kester, & Katan, 2003). Saturated fat has also been shown to elicit minimal effects on apolipoprotein B, a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, relative to carbohydrates (Mensink, Zock, Kester, & Katan, 2003).

    In addition, in a recent article in the Annals of Nutrition and Metabolism, an expert panel held jointly between the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and World Health Organization (WHO) reviewed the relationship between saturated fat and coronary heart disease (CHD) (FAO/WHO, 2009).

    From their examination of epidemiological studies, they found that saturated fatty acid intake was not significantly correlated with coronary heart disease events or mortality (FAO/WHO, 2009). Similarly, from their investigation of intervention studies, which are more powerful in that they can prove causality, they found that incidence of fatal coronary heart disease was not reduced by low-fat diets (FAO/WHO, 2009).

    According to Mozaffarian and Ludwig (2015), "The 2015 DGAC report tacitly acknowledges the lack of convincing evidence to recommend low-fat–high-carbohydrate diets for the general public in the prevention or treatment of any major health outcome, including heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, or obesity" (p. 2422).

    Part of this reversal in guidelines is based on the fact that replacing protein or carbohydrates with healthy fats in excess of the current 35% of the daily caloric fat limit reduces risk of cardiovascular disease (Appel et al., 2005; Estruch et al., 2013).

    In a similar vein, "The 2015 DGAC report specifies that, ‘Consumption of ‘low-fat’ or ‘nonfat’ products with high amounts of refined grains and added sugars should be discouraged’" (Mozaffarian & Ludwig, 2015, p.2422). Despite new guidelines, the Nutrition Facts Panel still employs the outdated 30% limit on dietary fat, which Mozaffarian and Ludwig (2015) remark has been "obsolete for more than a decade" (p.2422).

    Coconut Oil Doesn’t Negate Health---It Engenders It
    Not only do these meta-analyses put the nail in the coffin as far as saturated fat causing heart disease, but a plethora of health benefits have been elucidated in the scientific literature regarding coconut oil consumption. For instance, the following studies, as catalogued in the GreenMedInfo database, have revealed metabolic, immunomodulatory, and cognitive benefits of the dietary inclusion of coconut oil.

    For instance, extra virgin coconut oil consumption has been demonstrated to significantly reduce body mass index (BMI) and waist circumference (WC) and produce significant increases in concentrations of HDL cholesterol in patients with coronary artery disease (CAD) (Cardoso et al., 2015). Another study by Liau in colleagues (2011) concluded that virgin coconut oil is efficacious for the reduction of waist circumference, especially in a male cohort. Likewise, a study by Assunção and colleagues (2009) demonstrated that dietary coconut oil reduces visceral adiposity and elevates HDL cholesterol in women, thus improving both anthropometric and biochemical risk factors for metabolic syndrome.

    In rodent models, dietary virgin coconut oil improves glycemic control in high fructose fed rats, and is postulated to be “an efficient nutraceutical in preventing the development of diet induced insulin resistance and associated complications possibly through its antioxidant efficacy” (Narayanankutty et al., 2016). Research supports the use of coconut oil for obesity, dyslipidemia, insulin resistance, hypertension, and pathologically elevated LDL, all of which constitute risk factors for diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and Alzheimer’s, the last of which is being re-conceptualized as type 3 diabetes (Fernando et al., 2015).

    In addition, in a prospective study of patients with Alzheimer’s, improvements in cognitive function were observed for patients administered extra virgin coconut oil, since “medium chain triglycerides are a direct source of cellular energy and can be a nonpharmacological alternative to the neuronal death for lack of it, that occurs in Alzheimer patients” (Yang et al., 2015). Notably, the hormones, or cytokinins, and phenolic compounds found in coconut may prevent aggregation of amyloid-β peptide into plaques, thus arresting a critical step in pathogenesis of Alzheimer’s (Fernando et al., 2015). Research also suggests that coconut oil may directly stimulate ketogenesis in astrocytes and provide fuel to neighboring neurons as a consequence, thus improving brain health (Nonaka et al., 2016). On a different note, coconut oil mitigates amyloid beta toxicity in cortical neurons by up-regulating signaling of cell survival pathways (Nafar, Clarke, & Mearow, 2017).

    Lastly, studies have illuminated anti-inflammatory, analgesic, antibacterial, and anti-pyretic properties of virgin coconut oil (Intahphuak, Khonsung, & Panthong, 2010; Ogbolu et al., 2007). Thus, unless you are part of the minority of the population that carries the APOE4 allele, a polymorphism that confers increased risk with saturated fat consumption, there is no reason to avoid coconut oil or saturated fat (Barberger-Gateau et al., 2011). Thus, instead of trashing your coconut oil, do yourself a favor and eat an extra helping---your body will thank you.
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/def...ttal-usa-today
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