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    Americans Are Going to be Disappointed in Election Outcome

    Written by Ron Paul
    Monday August 1, 2016


    It is a sad commentary on the state of political life in the United States that our political conventions have become more like rock music festivals than competitions of ideas. There has been a great deal of bombast, of insults, of name-calling, and of chest-beating at both party conventions, but what is disturbingly absent is any mention of how we got to this crisis and how we can get out. From the current foreign policy mess to the looming economic collapse, all we hear is both party candidates saying they will fix it, no problem.

    In her convention speech Hillary Clinton promised that she would “fight terrorism” and defeat ISIS by doing more of what we have been doing all along: bombing. In fact we have dropped more than 50,000 bombs on ISIS in Iraq and Syria over the past two years and all she can say is that she will drop more. How many more bombs will defeat ISIS? How many more years will she keep us in our longest war, Afghanistan? She doesn’t say.

    In fact, the New York Times – certainly not hostile to the Clintons – wrote that it was almost impossible to fact-check Hillary’s speech because, “she delivered a speech that was remarkably without hard facts.”

    Clinton’s top foreign policy advisor said just a day after her convention speech that her big plan for Syria was to go back to square one and concentrate on overthrowing its secular president. How many more thousands more will die if she gets her way? And won’t she eventually be forced to launch a massive US ground invasion that will also kill more Americans?

    Clinton does not understand that a policy of endless interventionism has brought us to our knees and made us far weaker. Does she really expect us to be the policemen of the world with $20 trillion in debt?

    Likewise, Republican candidate Donald Trump misses the point. He promises to bring back jobs to America without any understanding of the policies that led to their departure in the first place. Yes, he is correct that the middle class is in worse shape than when Obama took office, but not once did he mention how it happened: the destructive policies of the Federal Reserve. The financing of our warfare/welfare state through the printing of phony money. Distorted interest rates that encourage consumption and discourage saving and investment.

    Trump tweeted this week that home ownership is at its lowest rate in 51 years. He promised that if elected he will bring back “the American dream.” He seems to have no idea that home ownership is so low because the Fed-created housing bubble exploded in 2007-2008, forcing millions of Americans who did not have the means to actually purchase a home to lose their homes. Not a word about the Fed from Trump.

    How are these candidates going to fix the problems we face in America if they have absolutely no idea what caused the problems? No matter who is elected, Americans are going to be very disappointed in the outcome. The warfare/welfare state is going to proceed until we are bankrupt. There is hope, however. It is up to us to focus on the issues, to focus on educating ourselves and others, and to demand that politicians listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    There is hope, however. It is up to us to focus on the issues, to focus on educating ourselves and others, and to demand that politicians listen.
    Well Ron, Trump would have listened to you, may still would, if you would reach out to him. At least his heart is in the right place. It's a little too late in our country's destruction to just sit back and think we can change anything by "education" of the masses. We've been trying that for decades and it has not worked. So how about you trying to reach out to the person who just might listen to you and just may win the election. What is there to lose from trying?
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 08-01-2016 at 07:50 AM.
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    I think the Good Doctor missed this:

    It is so important to audit The Federal Reserve, and yet Ted Cruz missed the vote on the bill that would allow this to be done.
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2016
    "We live in an age where things change rather rapidly, whether politically or economically and certainly in foreign policy things change, so this whole ball game can change rather rapidly.” ― Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by No1butPaul View Post
    I think the Good Doctor missed this:

    It is so important to audit The Federal Reserve, and yet Ted Cruz missed the vote on the bill that would allow this to be done.
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2016
    I am have been reading your posts for a while now and you seem to be a very smart person. That would lead me to believe that you know that Trump doesn't really care about auditing the Fed. He just mentioned the auditing of the Fed as an excuse to criticize Ted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Well Ron, Trump would have listened to you, may still would, if you would reach out to him. At least his heart is in the right place. It's a little too late in our country's destruction to just sit back and think we can change anything by "education" of the masses. We've been trying that for decades and it has not worked. So how about you trying to reach out to the person who just might listen to you and just may win the election. What is there to lose from trying?
    As if Ron Paul would debase himself by pandering to an authoritarian anti-freedom bully like Trump...

    And as if Trump would listen to Dr. Paul.... ha!

    Trump would call him a 'loser' as he did at CPAC...

    They are on opposite sides of a very important line... history will judge accordingly.
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

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    - Diogenes of Sinope



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