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Full quote for context:
"Q: When you ran for president in 1988, you said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.” You’ve changed your view.
A: And during that campaign I got into trouble with Libertarians because I said there may well be a time when immigration is like an invasion and we have to treat it differently. My approach to immigration is somewhat different than the others. Mine is you deal with it economically We’re in worse shape now because we subsidize immigration. We give food stamps, Social Security, free medical care, free education and amnesty. So you subsidize it, and you have a mess. Conditions have changed. And I think this means that we should look at immigration differently. It’s an economic issue more than anything. If our economy was in good health, I don’t think there’d be an immigration problem. We’d be looking for workers and we would be very generous."
Nothing about round-ups, walls, surveillance networks or the rest of the police state measures some here are pushing.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Saturday said “our gun laws will change” after a mass shooting at two mosques in the city of Christchurch killed 49 people and wounded dozens more Friday.
Ardern said at a news conference that she was advised that the gunman had five firearms — two semi-automatic weapons, two shotguns and a lever-action firearm — and that he had acquired a gun license in November 2017.
"While work is being done as to the chain of events that led to both the holding of this gun license and the possession of these weapons, I can tell you one thing right now: Our gun laws will change," Ardern said.
She noted that there have been attempts to change the nation's gun laws in the past, most recently in 2017, but said "now is the time for change." She suggested she was looking at the issues around ownership of semi-automatic weapons.
One man, an Australian citizen, has been arrested and charged with murder in the attacks that authorities have called an unprecedented act of violence.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/n...-after-n983906
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Hmmm....it seems that New Hampshire is 93% white. Tennessee is only 77% white. So......are there a bunch of socialist Frenchmen moving into New Hampshire?
https://suburbanstats.org/population...-new-hampshire
https://suburbanstats.org/population...e-in-tennessee
Wait a second. When I pointed out what has happened and is happening nationally with with Ronald Raygun machine gun ban and Donald J. Rump's bumpfire stock ban you were all "New Hampshire is worse cause the bolsheviks have taken over" (not "they are going to take over eventually") and now you're "Well it's still awesome sauce now....but the end is nigh." I'm confused.There's no downward spiral yet...the state is still arguably the most free in the country, with the nation's lowest unemployment, low crime rate, low overall taxation and so on and as of right this moment the best firearm freedom in the country.
I see what's around the corner however.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Terrorists crashing airplanes into buildings and killing thousands scare some people. Mothers with babies walking up to border walls and smart Indians getting H1B Visas scare other people. The result is still the same always.
This is what the "OMG it's an emergency" crowd either doesn't understand or won't honestly tell you. Even if the wall was built from sea to shining sea under current law as enforced by Donald Trump it still won't do anything. Right now, as we are arguing about this, there are border patrol agents crossing over the wall that exists, getting migrants, and bringing them into America. That is a fact. Right now, as we are arguing about this, only 1 in 5 trucks coming in from Mexico are being inspected. That is a fact.
And the wall won't be built from sea to shining sea anyway. Trump has admitted as much. It won't be built where the Rio Grande is because everyone knows that Hondurans can't swim.
The wall won't be built over the mountains because everybody knows that Hondurans are afraid of heights.
Nope. Build a wall and that will solve everything.
And of course some will say "I'm not for building a wall. I'm just for Trump having emergency power to build a wall."
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Maybe it's the way he talks about it incessantly, tries to turn every conversation into that conversation, talks about entire collectives as though there ate no individuals in them and they are something other than human, and only let's up long enough to occasionally say, oh, I'm not like this, I just bring all this civil war talk up because lots of people think that way.
That may be the case, just as long as you're not trying to characterize Dr. Paul's position as calling for walls, biometrics or other more police state measures like some do.
Your question doesn't make sense in context of Dr. Paul's quote.
Any way, this thread isn't about your hispanic pet peeve so why the hell is it turning into one? It's a thread about a cold-blooded attack on unarmed, defenseless people in New Zealand, not hispanics at the US/Mexico border. Can we get back to the thread topic please?
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
C'mon man, don't play games.
The Bolsheviks have taken power.
The legislation is making it's way through the process right now.
Red Flag bans based on hearsay, under 21 gun bans, magazine bans, semi auto bans.
Medic aid expansion, increased taxes, sales and income tax proposals.
In Coos county that is a real thing, no doubt.
When I moved here almost 20 years ago now, that figure was 98%.
That five percent, voting for identity en bloc is what is making the difference.
NH democrats from 20 years ago are not the same as the Bolshevik collectivists they are now.
A $#@!ing migrant.One man, an Australian citizen
So now, because of one act of one man, who is not even a citizen, all Kiwis are going to lose more freedom.
Because our enemies tell us to go $#@! ourselves, when we do.
Too many instances to list individually...
Ron Paul:
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border.
Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project.
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.
Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations.
Some recent claims by extreme conservatives suggesting that MAGA's policies encouraged and accelerated southern border crossings went too far.
Ann Coulter: Trump by the Numbers
And now he's joined same school of thought that used to attack RP's foreign policy as 'anti-semitic':
Trump calls on Ilhan Omar to resign from Congress for ‘anti-Semitism’ over Israel lobby's money influence stance
Underlying issue is multi-dimesional but views like this seem to focus on one dimension/immediately visible side effect of blunderous policies of many decades. Not all of it but a good part of influx of mideast/globally displaced/ecomomic and other migrations (especially in Europe) is direct result of cluster mess that US neocons instigated in Iraq that later expanded to much of mideast and beyond and culminated with election of son of an African Muslim man to the White House (Other Iraqi freedom spreading leaders UK/Australia have not elected Islamic hertiage chief executives yet but with current policies that seems likely, London mayor is Islamic now). Many of the same neocons who are responsible for much of current global chaos are now part of "Americ-First" savior MAGA regime. While true that MAGA benefited from RP's paradigm shifting heavy lifting starting from 2007-08 at least/increased backlash against debt exploding globalist interventions but any notion that a frequent flip-flopping opportunist Donald "supported winners like Obama in 2012" Trump is similar to a true leader like RP would be a mistake.
NEXODUS: Disgraced Neoconservatives from both parties joining 'America-First' GOP-Likud (MAGA)
Pentagon deploys American troops in Israel
March 10, 2019
Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal
"Steel slats" politics is about a complex issue and in messaging MAGA has cultivated/soothed some potent fears of the base that had been rattled and deeply agonized following Barack Hussein Obama-blowback of Iraqi freedom bloodbath blunder.
'Scam': Coulter calls border agreement Trump's 'Yellow New Deal'
There had been some positive steps by MAGA to correct course early on when he was being attackd by neocons but lately it's drifting back to same ol same course. It seems likely now that more frstrations ahead for MAGA-First supporters. Successful implemetation of harsh Iran scantions/foreign military interventions prioritized by his top donor while stunning failures on key agenda favored by his base are probably all accidents and he did not foresee despite being a genius.
Unless globalist interventions of latest flavor of same lobbies funded GOP-Likud policy is actually reversed, Barack Hussein Obama 2.0 in US could happen too.
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MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
On a scale of 1 to 10, how certain are you about your claim?
Given that the alleged shooter is being described as Australian white nationalist, it's not out of realm of possibility that it was not a FF. There have been numerous reports out of there about hightened racial tensions for almost a decade post Iraqi freedom spread operation in which Australia showed bold leadership to support then Bush-Blair doctrine of 'fight them over there so we don't have to figh them over here'.
Australia PM slams 'ugly racial protests' in Melbourne
Far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes at anti-immigration rally
Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday slammed "ugly racial protests" in Australia's second-largest city, after some far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes.
Agence France-Presse
Jan 6, 2019
Violence at rival Australian immigration protests
PublishedJun 26, 2016, 7:28 pm SGT
SYDNEY (AFP) - Rival immigration protesters clashed for the second time in a month in Melbourne on Sunday (June 26), with three people arrested as the government vowed to crack down on mask-wearing demonstrators.
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MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
I don't consider military at the border to be a police state measure, per se, any more than Border Patrol at the border is. It is something that should be carefully undertaken but it's not a police state measure.
It's around 73 pages, isn't it? No, I didn't read it. Don't need to. I'm sure we could cover every little bit and piece of it if we wanted to but there's no need to circle the thread right back into the whole "socialist hispanic" nonsense that some parrot endlessly, especially even after it's been proven that it's a falsehood.
Last edited by devil21; 03-16-2019 at 03:22 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
So back to New Zealand...
It's odd to me that the court ordered the (main) shooter's face blurred out in all photos/vids/publications. Anybody else seen that done before?
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
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