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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    False Flags need not be a false event, they just need to be done in a manner designed to put the blame on the wrong party.

    And you earned that 2nd neg.
    Haha whatever.

    I gotta wait for this thing to recharge so I can bang on you again.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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  3. #152
    Full quote for context:
    "Q: When you ran for president in 1988, you said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.” You’ve changed your view.

    A: And during that campaign I got into trouble with Libertarians because I said there may well be a time when immigration is like an invasion and we have to treat it differently. My approach to immigration is somewhat different than the others. Mine is you deal with it economically We’re in worse shape now because we subsidize immigration. We give food stamps, Social Security, free medical care, free education and amnesty. So you subsidize it, and you have a mess. Conditions have changed. And I think this means that we should look at immigration differently. It’s an economic issue more than anything. If our economy was in good health, I don’t think there’d be an immigration problem. We’d be looking for workers and we would be very generous."


    Nothing about round-ups, walls, surveillance networks or the rest of the police state measures some here are pushing.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Full quote for context:
    "Q: When you ran for president in 1988, you said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.” You’ve changed your view.

    A: And during that campaign I got into trouble with Libertarians because I said there may well be a time when immigration is like an invasion and we have to treat it differently. My approach to immigration is somewhat different than the others. Mine is you deal with it economically We’re in worse shape now because we subsidize immigration. We give food stamps, Social Security, free medical care, free education and amnesty. So you subsidize it, and you have a mess. Conditions have changed. And I think this means that we should look at immigration differently. It’s an economic issue more than anything. If our economy was in good health, I don’t think there’d be an immigration problem. We’d be looking for workers and we would be very generous."


    Nothing about round-ups, walls, surveillance networks or the rest of the police state measures some here are pushing.
    And what happens when our improved economy (the result of ending entitlements etc.) draws enough socialist immigrants to qualify as an invasion?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Nothing about round-ups, walls, surveillance networks or the rest of the police state measures some here are pushing.
    The invasion is now.

    It has to be treated differently now.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    NZ may have draconian laws soon.
    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Saturday said “our gun laws will change” after a mass shooting at two mosques in the city of Christchurch killed 49 people and wounded dozens more Friday.

    Ardern said at a news conference that she was advised that the gunman had five firearms — two semi-automatic weapons, two shotguns and a lever-action firearm — and that he had acquired a gun license in November 2017.

    "While work is being done as to the chain of events that led to both the holding of this gun license and the possession of these weapons, I can tell you one thing right now: Our gun laws will change," Ardern said.

    She noted that there have been attempts to change the nation's gun laws in the past, most recently in 2017, but said "now is the time for change." She suggested she was looking at the issues around ownership of semi-automatic weapons.

    One man, an Australian citizen, has been arrested and charged with murder in the attacks that authorities have called an unprecedented act of violence.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/n...-after-n983906

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Still spreading your anti-white lies I see. When confounded with facts you just can't help yourself and start blurting out Stormfront or playing the race card in some fashion.

    If we go by you no doubt Ron's 2008/2012 immigration platform would be considered racist and out of Stormfront.
    What is a lie about saying that worrying about "maintaining a white majority in neighborhoods" is racist? And how is that antiwhite? If you want to be a racist that's fine.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It has.

    The three larger cities to the south, Manchester, Nashua and Salem have increased foreign born populations and are now consistently voting leftist.

    Native born immigration from Mass is affecting us as well.

    As is fraudulent out state voting.

    As more displacement/replacement takes place, look for NH to join the rest of the northeast as a solid, left wing, "blue" state.
    Hmmm....it seems that New Hampshire is 93% white. Tennessee is only 77% white. So......are there a bunch of socialist Frenchmen moving into New Hampshire?

    https://suburbanstats.org/population...-new-hampshire

    https://suburbanstats.org/population...e-in-tennessee

    There's no downward spiral yet...the state is still arguably the most free in the country, with the nation's lowest unemployment, low crime rate, low overall taxation and so on and as of right this moment the best firearm freedom in the country.

    I see what's around the corner however.
    Wait a second. When I pointed out what has happened and is happening nationally with with Ronald Raygun machine gun ban and Donald J. Rump's bumpfire stock ban you were all "New Hampshire is worse cause the bolsheviks have taken over" (not "they are going to take over eventually") and now you're "Well it's still awesome sauce now....but the end is nigh." I'm confused.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Full quote for context:
    "Q: When you ran for president in 1988, you said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.” You’ve changed your view.

    A: And during that campaign I got into trouble with Libertarians because I said there may well be a time when immigration is like an invasion and we have to treat it differently. My approach to immigration is somewhat different than the others. Mine is you deal with it economically We’re in worse shape now because we subsidize immigration. We give food stamps, Social Security, free medical care, free education and amnesty. So you subsidize it, and you have a mess. Conditions have changed. And I think this means that we should look at immigration differently. It’s an economic issue more than anything. If our economy was in good health, I don’t think there’d be an immigration problem. We’d be looking for workers and we would be very generous."


    Nothing about round-ups, walls, surveillance networks or the rest of the police state measures some here are pushing.
    Terrorists crashing airplanes into buildings and killing thousands scare some people. Mothers with babies walking up to border walls and smart Indians getting H1B Visas scare other people. The result is still the same always.



    This is what the "OMG it's an emergency" crowd either doesn't understand or won't honestly tell you. Even if the wall was built from sea to shining sea under current law as enforced by Donald Trump it still won't do anything. Right now, as we are arguing about this, there are border patrol agents crossing over the wall that exists, getting migrants, and bringing them into America. That is a fact. Right now, as we are arguing about this, only 1 in 5 trucks coming in from Mexico are being inspected. That is a fact.

    And the wall won't be built from sea to shining sea anyway. Trump has admitted as much. It won't be built where the Rio Grande is because everyone knows that Hondurans can't swim.



    The wall won't be built over the mountains because everybody knows that Hondurans are afraid of heights.



    Nope. Build a wall and that will solve everything.



    And of course some will say "I'm not for building a wall. I'm just for Trump having emergency power to build a wall."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by PursuePeace View Post
    A tad harsh, no?
    Not seeing that at all from Swordsmyth. What makes you say that?
    Maybe it's the way he talks about it incessantly, tries to turn every conversation into that conversation, talks about entire collectives as though there ate no individuals in them and they are something other than human, and only let's up long enough to occasionally say, oh, I'm not like this, I just bring all this civil war talk up because lots of people think that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Also, never forgot...according to the Left, Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

    Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.6cbeca2281a3

    The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

    That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.
    And the organized and financed effort to make that lie look true is why some of the people in this very thread are here. Especially the ones that clock in every afternoon, six days a week.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The invasion is now.

    It has to be treated differently now.
    That may be the case, just as long as you're not trying to characterize Dr. Paul's position as calling for walls, biometrics or other more police state measures like some do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And what happens when our improved economy (the result of ending entitlements etc.) draws enough socialist immigrants to qualify as an invasion?
    Your question doesn't make sense in context of Dr. Paul's quote.

    Any way, this thread isn't about your hispanic pet peeve so why the hell is it turning into one? It's a thread about a cold-blooded attack on unarmed, defenseless people in New Zealand, not hispanics at the US/Mexico border. Can we get back to the thread topic please?
    Last edited by devil21; 03-16-2019 at 09:10 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    ......Any way, this thread isn't about your hispanic pet peeve so why the hell is it turning into one? It's a thread about a cold-blooded attack on unarmed, defenseless people in New Zealand, not hispanics at the US/Mexico border. Can we get back to the thread topic please?
    I guess you have not read the shooters manifesto. It is still out there if you can find it although authorities are going through great lengths to have it removed everywhere.

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    That may be the case, just as long as you're not trying to characterize Dr. Paul's position as calling for walls, biometrics or other more police state measures like some do.



    Your question doesn't make sense in context of Dr. Paul's quote.

    Any way, this thread isn't about your hispanic pet peeve so why the hell is it turning into one? It's a thread about a cold-blooded attack on unarmed, defenseless people in New Zealand, not hispanics at the US/Mexico border. Can we get back to the thread topic please?
    Beat me to it.

    How about a little Christian love & sympathy sent to those who are suffering from this instead of turning it into a hate thread.
    There is no spoon.

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Beat me to it.

    How about a little Christian love & sympathy sent to those who are suffering from this instead of turning it into a hate thread.
    Well that's fine. Unless you're here because you're a shill trying to make libertarians look collectivist, cold blooded, inhuman and a bunch of other things we're not
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Wait a second. When I pointed out what has happened and is happening nationally with with Ronald Raygun machine gun ban and Donald J. Rump's bumpfire stock ban you were all "New Hampshire is worse cause the bolsheviks have taken over" (not "they are going to take over eventually") and now you're "Well it's still awesome sauce now....but the end is nigh." I'm confused.
    C'mon man, don't play games.

    The Bolsheviks have taken power.

    The legislation is making it's way through the process right now.

    Red Flag bans based on hearsay, under 21 gun bans, magazine bans, semi auto bans.

    Medic aid expansion, increased taxes, sales and income tax proposals.

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Hmmm....it seems that New Hampshire is 93% white. Tennessee is only 77% white. So......are there a bunch of socialist Frenchmen moving into New Hampshire?
    In Coos county that is a real thing, no doubt.

    When I moved here almost 20 years ago now, that figure was 98%.

    That five percent, voting for identity en bloc is what is making the difference.

    NH democrats from 20 years ago are not the same as the Bolshevik collectivists they are now.

  20. #167
    One man, an Australian citizen
    A $#@!ing migrant.

    So now, because of one act of one man, who is not even a citizen, all Kiwis are going to lose more freedom.

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    That may be the case, just as long as you're not trying to characterize Dr. Paul's position as calling for walls, biometrics or other more police state measures like some do.
    One way that I would suggest that we could do it is pay less attention to the borders between Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan and bring our troops home and deal with the border. Ron Paul - 11 Aug 2011



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Beat me to it.

    How about a little Christian love & sympathy sent to those who are suffering from this instead of turning it into a hate thread.
    Because our enemies tell us to go $#@! ourselves, when we do.

    Too many instances to list individually...

  24. #170
    Ron Paul:

    Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border.

    Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project.

    Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment.

    Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The invasion is now.

    It has to be treated differently now.
    Some recent claims by extreme conservatives suggesting that MAGA's policies encouraged and accelerated southern border crossings went too far.






    Ann Coulter: Trump by the Numbers



    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Also, never forgot...according to the Left, Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

    Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.6cbeca2281a3

    ...

    And now he's joined same school of thought that used to attack RP's foreign policy as 'anti-semitic':

    Trump calls on Ilhan Omar to resign from Congress for ‘anti-Semitism’ over Israel lobby's money influence stance


    Underlying issue is multi-dimesional but views like this seem to focus on one dimension/immediately visible side effect of blunderous policies of many decades. Not all of it but a good part of influx of mideast/globally displaced/ecomomic and other migrations (especially in Europe) is direct result of cluster mess that US neocons instigated in Iraq that later expanded to much of mideast and beyond and culminated with election of son of an African Muslim man to the White House (Other Iraqi freedom spreading leaders UK/Australia have not elected Islamic hertiage chief executives yet but with current policies that seems likely, London mayor is Islamic now). Many of the same neocons who are responsible for much of current global chaos are now part of "Americ-First" savior MAGA regime. While true that MAGA benefited from RP's paradigm shifting heavy lifting starting from 2007-08 at least/increased backlash against debt exploding globalist interventions but any notion that a frequent flip-flopping opportunist Donald "supported winners like Obama in 2012" Trump is similar to a true leader like RP would be a mistake.

    NEXODUS: Disgraced Neoconservatives from both parties joining 'America-First' GOP-Likud (MAGA)

    Pentagon deploys American troops in Israel
    March 10, 2019

    Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal



    "Steel slats" politics is about a complex issue and in messaging MAGA has cultivated/soothed some potent fears of the base that had been rattled and deeply agonized following Barack Hussein Obama-blowback of Iraqi freedom bloodbath blunder.

    'Scam': Coulter calls border agreement Trump's 'Yellow New Deal'

    There had been some positive steps by MAGA to correct course early on when he was being attackd by neocons but lately it's drifting back to same ol same course. It seems likely now that more frstrations ahead for MAGA-First supporters. Successful implemetation of harsh Iran scantions/foreign military interventions prioritized by his top donor while stunning failures on key agenda favored by his base are probably all accidents and he did not foresee despite being a genius.

    Unless globalist interventions of latest flavor of same lobbies funded GOP-Likud policy is actually reversed, Barack Hussein Obama 2.0 in US could happen too.

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Another False Flag.
    On a scale of 1 to 10, how certain are you about your claim?

    Given that the alleged shooter is being described as Australian white nationalist, it's not out of realm of possibility that it was not a FF. There have been numerous reports out of there about hightened racial tensions for almost a decade post Iraqi freedom spread operation in which Australia showed bold leadership to support then Bush-Blair doctrine of 'fight them over there so we don't have to figh them over here'.


    Australia PM slams 'ugly racial protests' in Melbourne
    Far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes at anti-immigration rally
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday slammed "ugly racial protests" in Australia's second-largest city, after some far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes.
    Agence France-Presse
    Jan 6, 2019


    Violence at rival Australian immigration protests
    PublishedJun 26, 2016, 7:28 pm SGT
    SYDNEY (AFP) - Rival immigration protesters clashed for the second time in a month in Melbourne on Sunday (June 26), with three people arrested as the government vowed to crack down on mask-wearing demonstrators.















  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    One way that I would suggest that we could do it is pay less attention to the borders between Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan and bring our troops home and deal with the border. Ron Paul - 11 Aug 2011
    I don't consider military at the border to be a police state measure, per se, any more than Border Patrol at the border is. It is something that should be carefully undertaken but it's not a police state measure.

    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I guess you have not read the shooters manifesto. It is still out there if you can find it although authorities are going through great lengths to have it removed everywhere.
    It's around 73 pages, isn't it? No, I didn't read it. Don't need to. I'm sure we could cover every little bit and piece of it if we wanted to but there's no need to circle the thread right back into the whole "socialist hispanic" nonsense that some parrot endlessly, especially even after it's been proven that it's a falsehood.
    Last edited by devil21; 03-16-2019 at 03:22 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Hmmm....it seems that New Hampshire is 93% white. Tennessee is only 77% white. So......are there a bunch of socialist Frenchmen moving into New Hampshire?

    https://suburbanstats.org/population...-new-hampshire

    https://suburbanstats.org/population...e-in-tennessee
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And immigration is contributing to the motivations that cause the native leftists from other states to move to yours.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Wait a second. When I pointed out what has happened and is happening nationally with with Ronald Raygun machine gun ban and Donald J. Rump's bumpfire stock ban you were all "New Hampshire is worse cause the bolsheviks have taken over" (not "they are going to take over eventually") and now you're "Well it's still awesome sauce now....but the end is nigh." I'm confused.
    They have taken over, they just haven't enacted their agenda yet.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Maybe it's the way he talks about it incessantly, tries to turn every conversation into that conversation, talks about entire collectives as though there ate no individuals in them and they are something other than human, and only let's up long enough to occasionally say, oh, I'm not like this, I just bring all this civil war talk up because lots of people think that way.
    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Terrorists crashing airplanes into buildings and killing thousands scare some people. Mothers with babies walking up to border walls and smart Indians getting H1B Visas scare other people. The result is still the same always.



    This is what the "OMG it's an emergency" crowd either doesn't understand or won't honestly tell you. Even if the wall was built from sea to shining sea under current law as enforced by Donald Trump it still won't do anything. Right now, as we are arguing about this, there are border patrol agents crossing over the wall that exists, getting migrants, and bringing them into America. That is a fact. Right now, as we are arguing about this, only 1 in 5 trucks coming in from Mexico are being inspected. That is a fact.

    And the wall won't be built from sea to shining sea anyway. Trump has admitted as much. It won't be built where the Rio Grande is because everyone knows that Hondurans can't swim.



    The wall won't be built over the mountains because everybody knows that Hondurans are afraid of heights.



    Nope. Build a wall and that will solve everything.



    And of course some will say "I'm not for building a wall. I'm just for Trump having emergency power to build a wall."
    It doesn't matter how the communist hordes arrive or which atrocities they commit and you are making a great case that we need to do more to stop them yet.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  32. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Your question doesn't make sense in context of Dr. Paul's quote.

    Any way, this thread isn't about your hispanic pet peeve so why the hell is it turning into one? It's a thread about a cold-blooded attack on unarmed, defenseless people in New Zealand, not hispanics at the US/Mexico border. Can we get back to the thread topic please?
    It makes perfect sense and I am not the one who made this thread about immigration nor is my "pet peeve" hispanics, it's all socialist immigrants.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Beat me to it.

    How about a little Christian love & sympathy sent to those who are suffering from this instead of turning it into a hate thread.
    Maybe you should tell that to the people who started the hate against me in this thread?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    On a scale of 1 to 10, how certain are you about your claim?
    10, this is an easy one.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  35. #180
    So back to New Zealand...

    It's odd to me that the court ordered the (main) shooter's face blurred out in all photos/vids/publications. Anybody else seen that done before?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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