Yes, Jack Loves Them

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Yes, Jack Loves Them
Jack Perry

I’ve gotten some racist hate email over my criticisms of Trump. It appears I love “brown people” and Muslims more than “Americans”. News flash: Many Americans ARE those groups. But you know what? Yes, I do love them. I love them because they’re human beings and that is what Jesus asks me to do. And it really isn’t that hard, either. Because it takes a lot more energy to hate. And in case anyone wondered, no, I’m not 100% “white” (whatever that is.) And, yes, half my family were immigrants. The other half were ALREADY HERE when the Europeans arrived and dang near starved to death the first year.

See, I don’t need to be attached to a skin pigment to find some kind of value in who I am. That goes for everyone of all colors because there’s racists of every color. But to those who accuse me of loving brown people and Muslims, I say GUILTY AS CHARGED. Yes, I do love them. Because I follow a HIGHER AUTHORITY than skin pigment.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/yes-jack-loves/

Exactly my POV.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Loving all humans is an absurdity that shatters the very concept of love.

[presence]

Loving all humans is an absurdity that shatters the very concept of love.

I think that was my favorite bible quote

[Ender]

I think that was my favorite bible quote

LOL

I think "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself" is a bit better.

[timosman]

[spudea]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/yes-jack-loves/

Exactly my POV.

This guy seems to be a virtue signaling open borders progressive. I can say I love all people as well, and in the same breath, acknowledge that open borders do not work and will never work for the USA. Even if we kill the welfare state as Ron Paul advocates, billions of people would still like to immigrate here because many other places in the world are hellholes that regularly have USA made bombs dropped on them. Other places, instead of fixing their own country, people will take the more immediate gratification and just flee to the USA.

He also recently equated Obama's use of executive orders to ignore the law, with Trump's executive orders to follow and enforce the law. This guy is a lost cause. But I love him anyway!!

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This guy seems to be a virtue signaling open borders progressive. I can say I love all people as well, and in the same breath, acknowledge that open borders do not work and will never work for the USA. Even if we kill the welfare state as Ron Paul advocates, billions of people would still like to immigrate here because many other places in the world are hellholes that regularly have USA made bombs dropped on them. Other places, instead of fixing their own country, people will take the more immediate gratification and just flee to the USA.

He also recently equated Obama's use of executive orders to ignore the law, with Trump's executive orders to follow and enforce the law. This guy is a lost cause. But I love him anyway!!

Open borders have worked and would work w/o entitlements, corporate crony capitalism, WoD, WoT, and the MIC.

Too many are worried about the the spillovers of no real freedom rather than the root causes. If we took care of those, rather than let .gov run every aspect of our lives, we would have few issues with anyone.

[undergroundrr]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/yes-jack-loves/

Exactly my POV.

I was shocked when this LRC item came up in my RSS feed. Maybe there's a thaw coming.

I think that was my favorite bible quote

Well, I don't think it's possible to craft a better response than that.

I have to say, I haven't seen a tendency of alt-righters to pay much heed to Christian doctrine. The more caustic variety of objectivist seems to be a more typical profile. Ironically, belittling and condemnation of non-Christian faiths flows freely from them.

[Zippyjuan]

LOL

I think "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself" is a bit better.

Don't forget: http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-44.htm

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

[timosman]

Loving all humans is an absurdity that shatters the very concept of love.

Can there be love without hate?

[BSWPaulsen]

Open borders have worked and would work w/o entitlements, corporate crony capitalism, WoD, WoT, and the MIC.

Too many are worried about the the spillovers of no real freedom rather than the root causes. If we took care of those, rather than let .gov run every aspect of our lives, we would have few issues with anyone.

Ignorant balderdash. When you realize those "root causes" are supported by a sizable number of Americans, whom already possess a significant amount of political power, you will realize that adding people that are just as likely to support those root causes, if not more so, will make ever ending them utterly impossible. There is no metric at all that finds immigrants, as a whole, are more inclined towards freedom than your average American, and, in fact, they frequently oppose those liberties we still have (example: the 2nd amendment) more often because of their utter unfamiliarity and discomfort with them.

Open borders supporters willfully seek the further erosion of liberty and the marginalization of the people that do support liberty in this country all in the name of consistency. A consistency that may make them sleep well at night, but one which will inevitably render the voice of liberty too small to have a meaningful political impact as they swell the numbers of their opponents.

There is a good reason that the Democrats are for open borders. It will enhance their political power and is in their collective self-interest. They are not going to ever strike at the root causes of the erosion of liberty, so it should come as no surprise that anyone opposed to Democrats must oppose open borders immigration as an act of self-preservation. There are enough enemies of liberty here already. More need not apply.

[Krugminator2]

I think that was my favorite bible quote

"Your morality demands that you divorce your love from values and hand it down to any vagrant, not as response to his worth, but as response to his need, not as reward, but as alms, not as a payment for virtues, but as a blank check on vices." Ayn 3:16

[timosman]

[FONT="]"Your morality demands that you divorce your love from values and hand it down to any vagrant, not as response to his worth, but as response to his [/FONT]need, not as reward, but as alms, not as a payment for virtues, but as a blank check on vices." Ayn 3:16

if you can bring your soul to the state of a dump heap that welcomes anything on equal terms, if you can cease to value moral values, you have achieved the state of moral perfection.

[nikcers]

“When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get Even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight.”

[undergroundrr]

Whoa. This thread has devolved into Tuff Guy Huffy Puffy 2017.


“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

― George W. Bush

[P3ter_Griffin]

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Ignorant balderdash. When you realize those "root causes" are supported by a sizable number of Americans, whom already possess a significant amount of political power, you will realize that adding people that are just as likely to support those root causes, if not more so, will make ever ending them utterly impossible. There is no metric at all that finds immigrants, as a whole, are more inclined towards freedom than your average American, and, in fact, they frequently oppose those liberties we still have (example: the 2nd amendment) more often because of their utter unfamiliarity and discomfort with them.

Open borders supporters willfully seek the further erosion of liberty and the marginalization of the people that do support liberty in this country all in the name of consistency. A consistency that may make them sleep well at night, but one which will inevitably render the voice of liberty too small to have a meaningful political impact as they swell the numbers of their opponents.

There is a good reason that the Democrats are for open borders. It will enhance their political power and is in their collective self-interest. They are not going to ever strike at the root causes of the erosion of liberty, so it should come as no surprise that anyone opposed to Democrats must oppose open borders immigration as an act of self-preservation. There are enough enemies of liberty here already. More need not apply.

Actually YOUR ignorant balderdash just proved my point.

More gov erodes freedom; get rid of the fed involvement in every aspect of our lives and live in Liberty. We own nothing and can do nothing w/o gov approval.

MORE gov is making slaves of us all- and closed borders is a great example- you are going to pay for the wall, not Mexico- next is national ID and then Minority Report.

[BSWPaulsen]

Actually YOUR ignorant balderdash just proved my point.

More gov erodes freedom; get rid of the fed involvement in every aspect of our lives and live in Liberty. We own nothing and can do nothing w/o gov approval.

I find you admirable in that you are utterly absent of any Machiavellian sense of politics. You're a better person for it, the kind I'd want in my neighborhood. However, stubbornly clinging to principles that one's enemies will use against you is not conducive to a final result that empowers liberty. Politics is war by other means, and you are too noble a soul to dirty yourself with what that entails.

Government cannot be gotten rid of in "every aspect of our lives" when a very significant number of the people are not clamoring for it. With Democrats standing to be the chief beneficiary of open borders policies you can be damn sure liberty will be further diminished by adding further strength to an already powerful constituency that is anti-liberty.

I like immigrants that advocate liberty and only those that advocate liberty. If they don't? They shouldn't be here. And if someone that supports liberty would welcome those that do not espouse liberty? They are a useful idiot at best, and a traitor to liberty at worst.

[Ender]

I find you admirable in that you are utterly absent of any Machiavellian sense of politics. You're a better person for it, the kind I'd want in my neighborhood. However, stubbornly clinging to principles that one's enemies will use against you is not conducive to a final result that empowers liberty. Politics is war by other means, and you are too noble a soul to dirty yourself with what that entails.

Government cannot be gotten rid of in "every aspect of our lives" when a very significant number of the people are not clamoring for it. With Democrats standing to be the chief beneficiary of open borders policies you can be damn sure liberty will be further diminished by adding further strength to an already powerful constituency that is anti-liberty.

I like immigrants that advocate liberty and only those that advocate liberty. If they don't? They shouldn't be here. And if someone that supports liberty would welcome those that do not espouse liberty? They are a useful idiot at best, and a traitor to liberty at worst.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin-

[timosman]

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin-

What about those who give up safety to gain nothing? What about these useful idiots?

[Ender]

What about those who give up safety to gain nothing? What about these useful idiots?

What about those who give the government all power to protect them and lose all freedom? What about these useful idiots?

[inthehall]

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

― George W. Bush

[timosman]

What about those who give the government all power to protect them and lose all freedom? What about these useful idiots?

Dude, the battle has already been lost. Wakey, wakey.

[Ender]

Dude, the battle has already been lost. Wakey, wakey.

'Zackly.

WAKE UP



So- maybe it's time to get off our duffs?

Ron Paul: Illegal immigrants are a convenient scapegoat for our economic crisis. But with free markets and private property, the need for immigrant labor becomes obvious. Most immigrants, regardless of the color of their skin, are open to the ideals of liberty: private property, free markets, sound money, right to life, low taxes, less war, protection of civil liberties, and a foreign policy designed for peace.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

[Superfluous Man]

Loving all humans is an absurdity that shatters the very concept of love.

No, it isn't and doesn't.

[spudea]

'Zackly.

Most immigrants, regardless of the color of their skin, are open to the ideals of liberty: private property, free markets, sound money, right to life, low taxes, less war, protection of civil liberties, and a foreign policy designed for peace.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

I disagree with Ron Paul's conclusion here. That may have been true in his hay day 30-50 years ago, but not now. Looking at the current situation, most immigrants appear to want socialism and demand welfare, exactly as their home countries. They think the USA is wealthy enough, maybe it'll work differently here...

14 Arrested for $16 Million in Welfare Fraud… You’ll Be Shocked To See The Names!

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I disagree with Ron Paul's conclusion here. That may have been true in his hay day 30-50 years ago, but not now. Looking at the current situation, most immigrants appear to want socialism and demand welfare, exactly as their home countries. They think the USA is wealthy enough, maybe it'll work differently here...

14 Arrested for $16 Million in Welfare Fraud… You’ll Be Shocked To See The Names!

You just proved RP's point:

I see the immigration problem as a consequence of our welfare state. We encourage people not to work here, but the welfare we offer the people who come--they get free medical care. They get free education. They bankrupt our hospitals. Our hospitals are closing. And it shouldn’t be rewarded. That means you don’t give them citizenship. You can’t solve this problem until you get rid of the welfare state, because in a healthy economy, immigrants wouldn’t be a threat to us.

If you subsidize something, you get more of it. We subsidize illegal immigration, we reward it by easy citizenship, either birthright or amnesty. But we force our states and our local communities to pay for the health care and pay for the education. Why wouldn’t they bring their families? And because of our economic conditions, we do need workers. But if we had a truly free market economy, the illegal immigrants would not be the scapegoat. We would probably need them and they would be acceptable

[spudea]

You just proved RP's point:

No you just proved my point. Most immigrants want welfare and are anti-liberty. End the welfare state??? At this point you'd see 20 million non-citizens rioting in the streets if that happened = the destruction of America.

[undergroundrr]

No you just proved my point. Most immigrants want welfare and are anti-liberty. End the welfare state??? At this point you'd see 20 million non-citizens rioting in the streets if that happened = the destruction of America.

They're just animals. That's what they do.

Even if you turned out to be right, the root cause would be the welfare state and the silly white people who created it.

Take away whites' welfare - Yeah, you can assure a democratic majority in congress for time immemorial. Hispanics on the other hand, have been shown to believe in the efficacy of hard work in much higher percentages than the general populace (recent Pew study). They self-identify as libertarian pretty much identically with whites (11% & 12% respectively, again Pew). And twice the percentage of Hispanics as whites polled were for the one guy among the four major 2016 Pres contenders who said welfare needed to be reformed - Gary Johnson. trump and Bannon have never dared to utter a word about welfare reform. trump won the white vote handily.

[timosman]

Even if you turned out to be right, the root cause would be the welfare state and the silly white people who created it.

The attraction is not only the welfare state. Think how many other attractions "silly white people" have created.