Trump: "You won't see another black president for generations" because Obama was so bad

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump has lately launched harsh direct attacks on Dr Ben Carson MD invoking terms like "pathological illness" and more, but MOEs gave him a pass while back when he may have indirectly started diminishing Carson at early stages of his candidacy because he was of same skin color as Obama:





Related

Carson's comeback to Trump's insults: 'Pray for him'

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-usa-election-carson-trump-idUSKCN0T21KK20151113#jJdwMVpvT8jdACDx.97

[AngryCanadian]

Trump is an Idiot and will never sit foot at the white house.

[RonPaulMall]

Tweet is from 2014, so it has nothing to do with Carson. And Zach Galifianakis made that very point to Obama's face in the same year:

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/11...lack-president

[r3volution 3.0]

[TER]

I think Trump is trying to torpedo his whole run. I don't buy for a second that this man wants to become POTUS. This whole thing smells like an Andy Kaufman schtick. He would be very happy to go out on top and see Hillary become President.

[r3volution 3.0]

I think Trump is trying to torpedo his whole run. I don't buy for a second that this man wants to become POTUS. This whole thing smells like an Andy Kaufman schtick. He would be very happy to go out on top and see Hillary become President.

^^ringer (also retard, but ringers don't need to be smart)

[RonPaulMall]

I think Trump is trying to torpedo his whole run. I don't buy for a second that this man wants to become POTUS. This whole thing smells like an Andy Kaufman schtick. He would be very happy to go out on top and see Hillary become President.

You think the man with the biggest ego in the world would be "happy" to see Hillary become President? This is why we are now nearly in to December and Trump is still on top. His enemies don't have the slightest understanding of what he's all about- which is funny because he's probably the most transparently obvious politician in modern American history.

[TER]

You think the man with the biggest ego in the world would be "happy" to see Hillary become President?

Happy because he doesn't have to be President. I think his greed is even bigger then his ego.

[r3volution 3.0]

His enemies don't have the slightest understanding of what he's all about

...neither do his supporters.

For instance, they think he's tough on immigration.



Trump opposed Romney's self-deportation plan, said it was unfair to immigrants (link):

Trump Hammers Romney's 'Crazy' Immigration Suggestion

The now-infamous 'self-deportation' policy proposal from Mitt Romney was "crazy" and "maniacal," real estate magnate Donald Trump said in an interview published online Tuesday. The former Romney backer said the suggestion, made during a GOP primary debate in January, made it seem like the Republican Party was hostile and anti-immigrant.

Trump claims illegal immigrants benefit the US economically (link):

That Time Donald Trump Had a Meeting with DREAMers and said ""You Convinced me" on Immigration

“You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami,” he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. “You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics — if it wasn’t for them my lawn wouldn’t be the lawn it is; it’s the best lawn,” Pacheco recalled Trump saying.

Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.

“At the end of the day, what we’re looking at is a value proposition for America,” Tijerino said to Trump at the end of the meeting, referring to immigration legislation.

“You’ve convinced me,” Trump said to the delight of the activists in the room.

Trump recently said he favors a pathway for legalization for the millions already here (link):

Donald Trump on Amnesty: "If Somebody's Been Outstanding, We Try and Work Something Out."

Despite his fiery immigration rhetoric, is Donald Trump actually a supporter of amnesty?

Appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Friday, host Joe Scarborough asked Trump what he would do about the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in the country once America secured its southern border. After arguing the real number of illegal immigrants is much higher and saying the first thing America needs to do is “take the bad” illegal immigrants and “get them the hell out,” Trump sounded like he was open to providing some type of pathway to legalization for the remainder.

“And then the other ones — and I’m a very big believer in merit system, I have to tell you,” Trump said. “Because some of these people have been here, they’ve done a good job, you know, in some cases sadly they’ve been living under the shadows.”

“We have to do something,” he continued. “So whether it’s merit or whether it’s whatever, but I’m a believer in the merit system. If somebody’s been outstanding, we try and work something out.”

Of course, Trump again emphasized that before moving forward with his “merit system” America needed to “secure the border.”

This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

When The Daily Caller sought clarification at the time from the Trump campaign, a senior adviser replied with a circuitous answer that emphasized that Trump wanted to secure the border and didn’t believe in “amnesty,” but wouldn’t explicitly reject a pathway to legalization.

By the definition of the loudest critics of comprehensive immigration reform in the Republican Party — many of whom Trump has won over with his immigration rhetoric — what Trump seems to be proposing would in fact be an amnesty, which these activists define as any pathway to normalizing the immigration statuses of America’s illegal population, no matter whether those illegals would be forced to pay a financial penalty or even prevented from gaining citizenship.

Trump wants to deport them all, then let them back in, then give them legal status - recent

Message to the GOP: Trump Supports Amnesty

Trump’s supporters loved his promise this week to create a “deportation force” to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go.”

But his supporters tend to overlook is his other promise — repeated in Tuesday’s Fox Business debate — that under his immigration plan “they will come back.”

That’s right. Under Trump’s immigration plan almost all of 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.

Trump supports amnesty.

On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

"The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally."Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.

Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:

"I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal."
This is a policy called “touchback” and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX). She offered a “touchback” amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special “Z visa” that would allow them to reenter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.

And then there's this...

Pro Socialized Medicine
#1 . #2 . #3 . #4 .

Pro Bank Bailouts
#1 .

Pro Auto Bailouts
#1 .

Pro Obama Stimulus
#1 .

Pro Higher Taxes
#1 .

Soft On Immigration
#1 . #2 . #3 .

Pro Abortion (including Partial Birth)
#1 . #2 .

Pro Eminent Domain
#1 . #2 .

Pro gun Control
#1 .

[kahless]

...neither do his supporters.

For instance, they think he's tough on immigration.

The rest of the field including Rand is for increasing immigration. If you take all of Trump's contradictions as a whole it is still far less immigration than the open border jackasses that are for increasing and encouraging more immigration and opening the flood gates.

If someone ran to the right of Trump without the contradictions he would be leading in the polls and rightfully so. It could have been Ron or Rand, but they sold out or are trying to play the game or worst case are not who they claim to be. You cannot have limited government for the average folks if you are for importing people that demand otherwise.

[r3volution 3.0]

The rest of the field including Rand is for increasing immigration. If you take all of Trump's contradictions as a whole it is still far less immigration than the open border jackasses that are for increasing and encouraging more immigration and opening the flood gates.

If someone ran to the right of Trump without the contradictions he would be leading in the polls and rightfully so. It could have been Ron or Rand, but they sold out or are trying to play the game or worst case are not who they claim to be. You cannot have limited government for the average folks if you are for importing people that demand otherwise.

Well then...

You are far too stupid to help.

Enjoy your Clinton/Trump Presidency.

...I suggest building a bomb shelter.

[enhanced_deficit]

Tweet is from 2014, so it has nothing to do with Carson. And Zach Galifianakis made that very point to Obama's face in the same year:

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/11...lack-president

Good point. But there is a difference in humor comment from a comedian and a serious comment from someone like Trump.
Carson formally announced later but media had been talking about his Presidential candidacy since early 2013.

Ben Carson for President
Feb. 8, 2013 6:03 p.m. ET
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...92302358207828

[kahless]

Well then...

You are far too stupid to help.

Enjoy your Clinton/Trump Presidency.

...I suggest building a bomb shelter.

You can insult me all you like but ultimately scumbags like yourself are the reason this country is going down due to your support of open borders. The fact is you are far too stupid to realize that Trump is not willing to start war with Russia like the rest of the GOP candidates besides Rand.

[CPUd]

[r3volution 3.0]

You can insult me all you like but ultimately scumbags like yourself are the reason this country is going down due to your support of open borders.

...right, because that's what's blowing up the deficit, abolishing our liberties, and throwing the ME and the rest of the world into total chaos. -it's JOSE, from Tijuana!

...it's not the preceding century of creeping socialism (The New Freedom, The New Deal, The Great Society, etc), voted in by sub-standard white voters like yourself.

No no, it's JOSE, from Tijuana! (who arrived the better part of a century after this country's decline into a socialist dumpster fire).

[RonPaulMall]

Good point. But there is a difference in humor comment from a comedian and a serious comment from someone like Trump.
Carson formally announced later but media had been talking about his Presidential candidacy since early 2013.

But the only reason the joke was "funny" was because most people would agree with the basic premise. And I doubt Trump even knew who Carson was in 2013 (and Zach probably didn't either for that matter).

[kahless]

...right, because that's what's blowing up the deficit, abolishing our liberties, and throwing the ME and the rest of the world into total chaos. -it's JOSE, from Tijuana!

...it's not the preceding century of creeping socialism (The New Freedom, The New Deal, The Great Society, etc), voted in by sub-standard white voters like yourself.

You do not know me and I never supported any of that in my life time for you to make that huge leap. You seem to lack the intellectual capacity to have an in depth nuanced conversation on candidates and political issues due to your mainstream media training. Like a trained ape you went right to the name calling, "stupid", check, "socialist" check, play the racism card, check.

Unlike morons or lackeys like yourself I am not going to bash a candidate when they happen to be right about one issue or another. If the candidate I support is flat out wrong on an issue I call them out on it regardless of the displeasure of the shills.

.
No no, it's JOSE, from Tijuana!

Of course not.

75% Three-quarters of U.S. Hispanics prefer a big government

I am done, just the same with you.

[William Tell]

...neither do his supporters.

For instance, they think he's tough on immigration.



Trump opposed Romney's self-deportation plan, said it was unfair to immigrants (link):



Trump claims illegal immigrants benefit the US economically (link):



Trump recently said he favors a pathway for legalization for the millions already here (link):



Trump wants to deport them all, then let them back in, then give them legal status - recent


And then there's this...

Pro Socialized Medicine
#1 . #2 . #3 . #4 .

Pro Bank Bailouts
#1 .

Pro Auto Bailouts
#1 .

Pro Obama Stimulus
#1 .

Pro Higher Taxes
#1 .

Soft On Immigration
#1 . #2 . #3 .

Pro Abortion (including Partial Birth)
#1 . #2 .

Pro Eminent Domain
#1 . #2 .

Pro gun Control
#1 .

Well then...

You are far too stupid to help.

Enjoy your Clinton/Trump Presidency.

...I suggest building a bomb shelter.

Trump supporters don't just take the cake. They snatch the Pastry of Gullibility greedily and rudely from Obama supporters, curb stomp them. And then cram it down their own throats until they are barfing up naivety, delusions, and contradictions, and general BS to the extent that they have to go to the emergency room.

[KEEF]

Trump has lately launched harsh direct attacks on Dr Ben Carson MD invoking terms like "pathological illness" and more, but MOEs gave him a pass while back when he may have indirectly started diminishing Carson at early stages of his candidacy because he was of same skin color as Obama:






Related

Carson's comeback to Trump's insults: 'Pray for him'

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...VpvT8jdACDx.97

Well according to Trump's logic, then how in the hell did we end up with so many consecutive cluster $#@! white presidents?

[kahless]

...

He was right to post Trump's past positions and I do not see anyone here denying Trump's flip flops. Rand's flip flops are a tiny fraction of Trumps, I could drop down to that level and post his flip flops as well but that was not the point of this thread.

As bad as Trump is in consistency past and present, the point I am making is with people so intent to celebrate on taking him down do not seem to realize in this cycle there are far more dangerous candidates. As opposed to past cycles we discussed in this forum there is a real possibility of electing candidates determined to start WWIII with Russia. Trump may still be a bit of a hawk but so far appears not to be on that point but that could change.

None of this matters anyway since I still believe they plan to surge Bush in time for the primaries and use the new rule system to deny anyone else the nomination.

[dusman]

If someone ran to the right of Trump without the contradictions he would be leading in the polls and rightfully so. It could have been Ron or Rand, but they sold out or are trying to play the game or worst case are not who they claim to be. You cannot have limited government for the average folks if you are for importing people that demand otherwise.

So are you supporting Trump, instead of Rand?

If so, I'm sorry.

[kahless]

So are you supporting Trump, instead of Rand?

If so, I'm sorry.

My point in that quote was Rand destroyed his own campaign by sounding like a typical establishment Republican by being soft on immigration and going so far as to use silly establishment shill language language like he wants to encourage more immigration. Rand was doing quite well before Trump came in and ended up leading specifically due to this issue.

I do not normally buy into the lesser of two evils and usually end up voting CP or LP or write-in. I will not be doing the not counted write-in this cycle since it is even more pointless (voting is pointless anyway). However I think this is the most dangerous set of candidates in my life time and believe they put us at high risk of a nuclear exchange than during the cold war.

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump supporters don't just take the cake. They snatch the Pastry of Gullibility greedily and rudely from Obama supporters, curb stomp them. And then cram it down their own throats until they are barfing up naivety, delusions, and contradictions, and general BS to the extent that they have to go to the emergency room.

Well and poetically put

[kahless]

Trump supporters don't just take the cake. They snatch the Pastry of Gullibility greedily and rudely from Obama supporters, curb stomp them. And then cram it down their own throats until they are barfing up naivety, delusions, and contradictions, and general BS to the extent that they have to go to the emergency room.

Attacking voters of other candidates particularly one that is leading in the polls is a failed strategy. People will just dig their heals in for Trump or will find another candidate. Notice each time Rand and other candidates attack Trump they tend to drop in the polls.

Trump is averaging around 40% in the Reuters polls, Rand cannot win the nomination without converting Trump voters.
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR1...51124/type/day

[William Tell]

Attacking voters of other candidates particularly one that is leading in the polls is a failed strategy. People will just dig their heals in for Trump or will find another candidate. Notice each time Rand and other candidates attack Trump they tend to drop in the polls.

Just 'telling it how it is' I thought Trump fans were supposed to like that kind of thing.

[CPUd]

So are you supporting Trump, instead of Rand?

If so, I'm sorry.

Yes, he promotes Trump on here every day, and is an admitted Trump voter.

[kahless]

Yes, he promotes Trump on here every day, and is an admitted Trump voter.

For the most part people have been discussing strategy of different candidates both good and bad since 07. Something about Trump that has gone out the window and people here completely lose their $#@! and all sense of reason over opinions on Trump. I have never promoted Trump here. I just do not suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome like a few people have here.

I never said I would definitively vote for Trump. See post above. If it Rubio vs Trump, I will vote for the guy that is not proposing to shoot Russian planes out the sky and start WIII.

[William Tell]

Lolz

[Anti Federalist]

[r3volution 3.0]

I have never promoted Trump here.