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    Should minors be allowed to marry in California?

    Should minors be allowed to marry in California?
    By Robin Opsahl

    Under 18 and want to get hitched? In California, you need signed permission from a single parent or legal guardian, an interview and approval from the court.

    Soon, you might need to wait until 18 no matter who signs off, making California the only state in the nation with an absolute ban on under-18 marriage.

    Sen. Jerry Hill, D-San Mateo, said he is introducing the bill Friday in hopes of protecting all minors, and protecting women’s rights.

    “While we respect all cultures and faiths, we cannot support practices that rob youth of their childhood,” Hill said. “It affects young children, yes, but I wouldn’t consider teenagers to be prepared for marriage when they’re 15 to 17 either.”
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    Hill said he wrote the bill after he was contacted by Aliesa Bahri, a 16-year-old constituent. Bahri said she became aware of the issue after hearing about a 12-year-old girl who was engaged to be married in the Silicon Valley area. After investigating the laws and finding that there are no laws prohibiting child marriages, she contacted Hill.

    “One, arranged child marriages are immoral. Second, even childhood marriages that are not arranged face worse living conditions and usually end up in divorce anyways,” Bahri said. “Kids don’t have the maturity at that young of an age to make that commitment.” Hill said he chose age 18 because it is the age of consent for other issues, including military service.
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    More: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-...139043688.html
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    If the Libtards legalized sodomites, so they surely legalize pedophilia. So underage marriage will be a norm at age 9. The Last Days ! End of America !

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    How is this law on the books in US of A in 2017?

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    Not even sure what constitutes a minor in our modern world.

    14 yr olds used to run the farm, raise families, and take care of their parents, back in the pilgrim & pioneer days.

    Today's kids haven't been allowed to become mature enough to even balance a checkbook, so our "culture" has definitely changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Not even sure what constitutes a minor in our modern world.

    14 yr olds used to run the farm, raise families, and take care of their parents, back in the pilgrim & pioneer days.

    Today's kids haven't been allowed to become mature enough to even balance a checkbook, so our "culture" has definitely changed.
    I was paying taxes @ 15.
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    There should be no age limit for marriage in California.
    Do something Danke

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    Cali is insane and sick commie fecal hole.

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    Miners should be allowed to marry in Ca.

    Minors too if BOTH parents of BOTH bride and groom agree.....

    $#@! a bunch of single parent BS!



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I was paying taxes @ 15.
    12 or 13,, as I remember. Had to get a SSN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    If the Libtards legalized sodomites, so they surely legalize pedophilia. So underage marriage will be a norm at age 9. The Last Days ! End of America !
    What was anyone here expecting the Libtards support Muslims to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    If the Libtards legalized sodomites, so they surely legalize pedophilia. So underage marriage will be a norm at age 9. The Last Days ! End of America !
    How did you get underage marriage out of the article?
    Soon, you might need to wait until 18 no matter who signs off, making California the only state in the nation with an absolute ban on under-18 marriage.
    The proposed bill prohibits "under age" 18 .. regardless of individual cases.
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    No one under 18 has rights for marriage, even with parental consent. There are countries in the world where marital age is still 21, due to twenty-one is the age of majority there. We respect their laws, because these laws correlated with legal adult age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    No one under 18 has rights for marriage, even with parental consent.
    according to who?

    and what makes that magical number special?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Minors too if BOTH parents of BOTH bride and groom agree.....
    And if the bride and groom agree. Maybe you all are not aware that there are sects that arrange marriages with minors, and the bride usually has no say in the matter.

    (not picking on you Tod, just using your post to point out that not all marriages are consentual )
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Miners should be allowed to marry in Ca.

    Minors too if BOTH parents of BOTH bride and groom agree.....

    $#@! a bunch of single parent BS!
    Now that's more the relevant issue, isn't it? It makes teen marriage illegal, thus encouraging single mothers or abortion. The traditional "shotgun marriage" of pregnant teens (not children) will be banned. Even better if the father is 18 or over. Instead of a family, you can have a single mother on welfare and put the dude in jail. Taxpayers can take care of them all.

    And how did this all come about?

    Hill said he wrote the bill after he was contacted by Aliesa Bahri, a 16-year-old constituent. Bahri said she became aware of the issue after hearing about a 12-year-old girl who was engaged to be married in the Silicon Valley area.
    Ah, the arranged marriage tradition, imported to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    And if the bride and groom agree. Maybe you all are not aware that there are sects that arrange marriages with minors, and the bride usually has no say in the matter.

    (not picking on you Tod, just using your post to point out that not all marriages are consentual )
    Maybe if both families are 3rd generation Americans?

    I can't see such insanity as 'arranged marriages' surviving three generations of burgers and h o m o s........

    Then again we're talking 'bout the land of fruits-n-nuts....



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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    And if the bride and groom agree. Maybe you all are not aware that there are sects that arrange marriages with minors, and the bride usually has no say in the matter.

    (not picking on you Tod, just using your post to point out that not all marriages are consentual )
    That's a problem for Utah and Nevada...
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    The answers in this thread are a prime examples of kneejerk polarizing posts. Obviously it was a liberal democrat introducing a law against muslim traditions on arranged underage marriage yet people are snarling against the loony left in California? Obviously nothing is discussed as a issue anymore. Trump's leadership destroyed logical discourse in a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    Cali is insane and sick commie fecal hole.

    so, what you're saying is, cali has crazy communist $#@!s amirite?

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    Shouldn't the question be shall the government be allowed to regulate marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Shouldn't the question be shall the government be allowed to regulate marriage?
    Absolutely.

    The state has no business in marriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Obviously it was a liberal democrat introducing a law against muslim traditions on arranged underage marriage yet people are snarling against the loony left in California?
    Obviously. With apparently no thought put into unintended consequences.

    The answers in this thread are a prime examples of kneejerk polarizing posts...Trump's leadership destroyed logical discourse in a lot of people.
    You'll have to be more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Shouldn't the question be shall the government be allowed to regulate marriage?
    I would guess that question has never entered the head of the legislator involved.
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    How bout getting the State out of marriage entirely?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I would guess that question has never entered the head of the legislator involved.
    I'm sure you're right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I was paying taxes @ 15.
    ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Shouldn't the question be shall the government be allowed to regulate marriage?
    +rep

    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    How bout getting the State out of marriage entirely?
    +rep

    age discrimination.. isn't that illegal too?
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    But seeing how its from California i shouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post



    Ah, the arranged marriage tradition, imported to the US.
    According to a 16 yr old that "heard" about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I was paying taxes @ 15.
    Is there a statute of limitation on statutory rape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Maybe if both families are 3rd generation Americans?

    I can't see such insanity as 'arranged marriages' surviving three generations of burgers and h o m o s........

    Then again we're talking 'bout the land of fruits-n-nuts....
    There are sects of LDS who arrange marriages with minors. Warren Jeffs is in jail for it. There are also what are called "spring break brides" who ar forced to fly overseas to marry so their much older husband can come into the US. Look it up. It's a form of human trafficking.
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