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Thread: Bernie Sanders to make it official: running for president in 2020.

  1. #31
    He could win; he would've beat Trump last time.

    He and Trump, two unicorn leftists, appeal to much the same electorate.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    You are a blind firewall ignorant obstructionist. I have been throwing them at you all day and you have not read not one of them. They lay out the falsehoods and lies and show the reality. They even go back to the 60s to show the same Bernie Sanders communist roots that Alan Cranston came from. Know who Alan Cranston is? NO, you do not. See you are too young to see this and understand it for what it really is... I lived it... Been there.... Once again... you are allowing yourself to be played by the communist machine that started in the 60s. You can lower your own intellectual level and fool yourself... But don't try to fool me.
    Someone says to me, prove to me that Ron Paul is a libertarian/leaning libertarian, I will show him the bill he introduced to end the fed, his advocacy for returning to the gold standard, the plaque he has on his desk that says "The government hates competition, don't steal" etc etc. I don't have to post links after links of people making speculating from some tangential action he took that is 6 degree of separation related to him being a communist.

    So yea, he is a socialist and that should be bad enough without trying to make things up about him.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    I hit you with like 6 this morning directed right at Bernie the communist. Do I have to do it again??? No ... Look back... They are there... Everyone else read them, do you have a legal handicap that we should respect why you can't read those? If so, I would welcome the opportunity to call you and read them to you if it would help.
    I doubt anyone read the 6 articles you posted, I skimmed through one of the articles and wasn't convinced with what I read. I say it again, if you want people to read your articles, you have to post some excerpts and then if they enjoy it, they click on the link to finish reading.

  6. #34
    2020 is lining up to be quite entertaining.

    invest in Popcorn.
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    Ron Paul 2004

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  7. #35
    @juleswin

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Congress’ only self-identified democratic socialist
    More at: https://apnews.com/a1770fd620d94bf58d0ff1035d3e0eea
    Democratic Socialists Openly Calling For Communism

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    2020 is lining up to be quite entertaining.

    invest in Popcorn.
    Can't wait for the first debate, I wanna see how American reacts to Andrew Yang.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Someone says to me, prove to me that Ron Paul is a libertarian/leaning libertarian, I will show him the bill he introduced to end the fed, his advocacy for returning to the gold standard, the plaque he has on his desk that says "The government hates competition, don't steal" etc etc. I don't have to post links after links of people making speculating from some tangential action he took that is 6 degree of separation related to him being a communist.

    So yea, he is a socialist and that should be bad enough without trying to make things up about him.
    I gave you a library to read... Please go actually read those... You are parroting the same ignorant BS spin over and over even though you asked for links and they were provided. Want Youtubes now?

    See here is the problem... You will NEVER be objective or rational. You have been well trained to ignore reality, live in a bubble of lies, and obstruct at every opportunity. You lack the personal integrity to admit if you happen to be wrong about ANYTHING, EVER.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    I gave you a library to read... Please go actually read those... You are parroting the same ignorant BS spin over and over even though you asked for links and they were provided. Want Youtubes now?

    See here is the problem... You will NEVER be objective or rational. You have been well trained to ignore reality, live in a bubble of lies, and obstruct at every opportunity. You lack the personal integrity to admit if you happen to be wrong about ANYTHING, EVER.
    He refused to even acknowledge my last two posts.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #39
    Will Bernie and Trump discuss how they agree that socialized medicine is great?

    ...or will Trump pretend to be a conservative and you all get fooled (again)?
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 04-14-2019 at 09:29 PM.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    I gave you a library to read... Please go actually read those... You are parroting the same ignorant BS spin over and over even though you asked for links and they were provided. Want Youtubes now?

    See here is the problem... You will NEVER be objective or rational. You have been well trained to ignore reality, live in a bubble of lies, and obstruct at every opportunity. You lack the personal integrity to admit if you happen to be wrong about ANYTHING, EVER.
    Ok, I will read one of the links with one stipulation, it cannot be a book. So hit me with your best link and I will read it all.



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  14. #41
    This still doesn't tell me that Bernie himself is a communist.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    This still doesn't tell me that Bernie himself is a communist.
    The first article does and the two together certainly do.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Can't wait for the first debate, I wanna see how American reacts to Andrew Yang.
    I doubt any of the nobody candidates will be included in debates
    Do something Danke

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I doubt any of the nobody candidates will be included in debates
    I disagree, the Debates will have to include at least one Demoncrat.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Ok, I will read one of the links with one stipulation, it cannot be a book. So hit me with your best link and I will read it all.


    Thank you for finally being willing to read with objectivity, your "Libertarian" credibility just jumped up a few notches in my book. I gave you many to choose from because I would not like to shove just one down your throat and have you cry foul and want to argue the points of the one... Some have more info than others. But they are ALL in agreement. Back off and take a few, and do some reading. You are welcome to go through my stuff to find them if you like if it is easier. Some of us have actually already done this research and spent the time it takes to "unfool" ourselves. Humor me...

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    Thank you for finally being willing to read with objectivity, your "Libertarian" credibility just jumped up a few notches in my book. I gave you many to choose from because I would not like to shove just one down your throat and have you cry foul and want to argue the points of the one... Some have more info than others. But they are ALL in agreement. Back off and take a few, and do some reading. You are welcome to go through my stuff to find them if you like if it is easier. Some of us have actually already done this research and spent the time it takes to "unfool" ourselves. Humor me...
    I will read the first one, but a question for u. Do you think there is any difference between socialism and communism? and if yes, what is it?

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I disagree, the Debates will have to include at least one Demoncrat.
    Well one dem and "Bernie" lol

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I will read the first one, but a question for u. Do you think there is any difference between socialism and communism? and if yes, what is it?
    Absolutely there is a difference... Just like the difference between a Granny Smith and a Golden Delicious. But in the end they are still both Apples and the same fruit...

    Read and you will find that Socialism ALWAYS leads to Communism. Historically it always has and always will. See, they don't teach historical fact anymore for a reason, and the reason is deceptive by intent.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I will read the first one, but a question for u. Do you think there is any difference between socialism and communism? and if yes, what is it?
    http://www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez

    Unless this is strategy to boost Clinton to the top.
    Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-...134637787.html

    She is the great young hope of America’s Left-wing, an articulate and impassioned progressive whose policies have gained traction and Twitter feed is followed by four million.

    Now Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the 29-year-old first-time congressman from New York, is seeing her newfound political clout manifest in a new way – a race for her endorsement.

    With two dozen Democrats seeking their party’s presidential nomination, the support of Ms Ocasio-Cortez is being seen as a way to win over the young, energised voters who will help shape the race.

    Chief among the contenders are Bernie Sanders, the independent 77-year-old senator from Vermont, and Elizabeth Warren, the former academic now representing Massachusetts in the Senate.




    She's also representative of the younger voter mindset, that of environmental consciousness, the Green New Deal etc. Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez also acts as the bridge between generations Sanders (boomers); AOC(millennial's). Also, experience with freshness. Also the racial pairing of older white male with the younger Hispanic demographic, thus representing the changing American demographic. Gender as well, male / female combination thus gaining the female voters left over by Clinton. if I was a Democrat this is the ticket I would push for. Once in office they can put Warren in high office as economic advisor. Warren's problem is that she reminds everyone of Clinton. Also, a great advertising opportunity for Democrats. AOC "The youngest VP in history, thus breaking more ground as both the first female VP and the youngest ever.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 05-19-2019 at 09:53 AM.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    "Bread lines are a good thing."
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I will read the first one, but a question for u. Do you think there is any difference between socialism and communism? and if yes, what is it?
    From my personal experiences in my travels they always lead to disarming the people which leads to more tyranny . So , I view it all as bad
    Do something Danke

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    I gave you a library to read... Please go actually read those... You are parroting the same ignorant BS spin over and over even though you asked for links and they were provided. Want Youtubes now?

    See here is the problem... You will NEVER be objective or rational. You have been well trained to ignore reality, live in a bubble of lies, and obstruct at every opportunity. You lack the personal integrity to admit if you happen to be wrong about ANYTHING, EVER.
    He doesn't know what the difference between a socialist and a communist is. You can yell at him all day, but if you don't address that, it won't mean a thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He refused to even acknowledge my last two posts.
    Ignoring you is a sign of sanity. I should learn to do it myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He doesn't know what the difference between a socialist and a communist is. You can yell at him all day, but if you don't address that, it won't mean a thing.
    Since this thread relations have changed a bit and I have to give some great respect to Jules for this... Can't say anymore than that.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    From my personal experiences in my travels they always lead to disarming the people which leads to more tyranny .
    "And that's a good thing"
    -- Bernie Sanders.
    ...

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    This still doesn't tell me that Bernie himself is a communist.
    While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”
    https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-b...ard-communist/
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