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    Senate approves bill repealing much of ObamaCare

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...h-of-obamacare

    By Alexander Bolton - 12/03/15 08:23 PM EST



    The Senate on Thursday passed legislation repealing the core pillars of ObamaCare, taking a major step toward sending such a bill to the president’s desk for the first time.

    Republicans hailed it as a political messaging victory and a fulfillment of their promise from the 2014 midterm election to force President Obama to veto the landmark healthcare reform law named after him.

    The measure passed 52 to 47 after the Senate voted to significantly strengthen the bill originally passed by the House and brought straight to the floor by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
    The House will need to approve the amended legislation before it can be sent to the White House.

    Thursday’s vote was a major event in the Senate, as Democrats never allowed a standalone vote on an ObamaCare repeal bill when they controlled the chamber.

    Democrats were also unable to block the GOP measure, which was brought to the floor under budget reconciliation rules that prevented a filibuster.

    “For too long, Democrats did everything to prevent Congress from passing the type of legislation necessary to help these Americans who are hurting,” McConnell said on the floor. “Today, that ends.”

    The measure guts the law by repealing authority for the federal government to run healthcare exchanges, and scrapping subsidies to help people afford plans bought through those exchanges. It zeros out the penalties on individuals who do not buy insurance and employers who do not offer health insurance.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, missed the final vote.

    The vote caps weeks of intense and at times acrimonious debate within the Senate GOP conference over how far the repeal should go.

    Conservative Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who are running for president, and Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) threatened to oppose a House-passed repeal bill for not going far enough.

    Three moderates, Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), balked at it for including language defunding Planned Parenthood.

    GOP leaders briefly floated the possibility of dropping the Planned Parenthood language but dropped the idea knowing it could spark a conservative backlash.

    Instead, McConnell leaned on Cruz, Rubio and Lee to vote yes and sweetened the prospect by crafting an amendment that dramatically beefed up the Senate package. All three voted yes.

    “This bill is a substantial improvement over the original House bill, and I’m grateful to Senate conservatives and Senate leadership for joining me in making it so,” Cruz said in a statement after the vote.

    It repeals the expansion of Medicaid adopted by 30 states as well as many of the law’s tax increases, which the House bill left in place.

    It cuts funding for the Prevention and Public Health Fund and eliminates risk adjustment programs from insurance companies that lose money because of the law.

    The House bill eliminates the individual and employer mandates, the Cadillac tax on expensive insurance plans and the medical device tax.

    The question of how to handle Medicaid was a thorny one for McConnell because it pitted conservatives, who demanded a repeal, against Republican colleagues from states that expanded the safety-net program.

    “I am very concerned about the 160,000 people who had Medicaid expansion in my state. I have difficulty with that being included,” Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a Republican from West Virginia, told The Hill earlier this month.

    Vulnerable GOP incumbents face re-election next year in several states that have expanded Medicaid: Illinois, New Hampshire, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    McConnell eased their concerns by phasing-in the repeal over two years to give the federal government and states time to come up with a replacement program.

    The Senate bill also repeals the over-the-counter medicine tax, the prescription drug tax, an annual fee on health insurers and the tax on indoor tanning services. It reduces the threshold of healthcare costs that can be deducted from 10 percent to 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income.

    Cruz and Rubio signaled to GOP leaders earlier in the week that they would vote for the package but Cruz held out, keeping his colleagues guessing.

    The GOP leadership braced itself for the possibility that Cruz might attempt to force the Senate to vote on a one-sentence provision repealing all of the bill, which the Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough had ruled out of order.

    Cruz could have attempted to overturn the ruling of the presiding chair, who almost always follows the advice of the parliamentarian, with a simple-majority vote. But he decided not to, a pragmatic move since he colleagues were unlikely to back him.

    Collins and Kirk voted against the repeal package after an amendment they offered earlier in the day to strike the language defunding Planned Parenthood failed by a vote of 48 to 52.

    Murkowski, another sponsor of the amendment to protect Planned Parenthood funding, voted yes for the broader bill after declining to take a public position before the floor debate.

    The Senate voted throughout the afternoon on a variety of amendments, many of them intended to send a political message.

    Democrats sought to score political points by offering an amendment sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) to bar suspected terrorists from buying guns. It failed by a vote of 45 to 54.

    The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee blasted vulnerable Republicans who opposed it.

    “It’s reprehensible that with everything going on in the world, these senators won’t stand up to the special interests and pass a commonsense measure like closing the terrorist gun loophole,” said Lauren Passalacqua, a spokeswoman for the committee.

    An amendment sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), another presidential candidate, to loosen restrictions on concealed weapons permits fell six votes short of the 60 it needed as a non-germane proposal.

    Senators passed by a vote of 90 to 10 an amendment sponsored by Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) to repeal the so-called Cadillac tax on expensive health plans. The provision was included in the House bill but had to be sunset to pass parliamentary muster in the upper chamber. Heller’s amendment removed the time-limiting language.



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    Meh, even this relatively weak attempt took lots of horse trading and dilution. If it makes it past the house, the veto pen comes out. I don't see an override as possible, so it will be a lot of sound and fury (for the upcoming elections) signifying nothing.

    Keep it up I guess, and good luck

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    And the Obama "legacy" continues to unravel. Joy o' joy! Cloward-Piven eat dirt!
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    Last year the voted to overturn Obamacare 65 times. They are slacking off this year. They are using rules they criticized Democrats for using- not requiring the usual 2/3rds to pass.

    While the House and Senate have voted scores of times to repeal portions of Obamacare, this was the first time they are using a special tool known as "budget reconciliation" that allow the measure to clear the Senate with just 51 votes instead of the 60 votes typically required for major legislation. That higher threshold has allowed Democrats to block all past repeal efforts.
    They got 52 votes- all along party lines. Two republicans voted "No" on it- moderate Republican Sens. Susan Collins and Mark Kirk of Maine and Illinois,. If a third had voted "no" it would not have passed.

    Not to be outdone, Democrats seized the debate to try to force votes on gun control legislation that could put some Republicans in a politically tough position as the country is reeling from a recent spate of mass shootings.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politi...nthood-senate/

    They know it will get vetoed (just like the last 70 times). It is to put positions on record prior to the election.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-04-2015 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Last year the voted to overturn Obamacare 65 times. They are slacking off this year.
    The vote never passed though, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The vote never passed though, I think.
    Not in the Senate anyway, AFAIK, the House has passed a bunch of bills over the years.

    No doubt they'll pass this one too.

    Course, Obama'll just veto it...

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    I was more interested that Rand managed to not appear in the entire article.
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    House passes ObamaCare repeal, sending measure to president

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...to-obamas-desk

    The House on Wednesday passed legislation that would repeal much of ObamaCare and defund Planned Parenthood for one year, sending the measure to President Obama’s desk.

    The bill passed by a vote of 240 to 181. Rep. Collin Peterson (Minn.), who opposes abortion, was the only Democrat to vote for the measure. Reps. Bob Dold (Ill.), Richard Hanna (N.Y.) and John Katko (R-N.Y.), who all hail from swing districts, were the only Republicans to vote against it.

    Obama is certain to veto the measure, but Republicans touted the vote as important step toward reversing the Affordable Care Act and the expansion of government it created.
    “We are confronting the president with the hard, honest truth: ObamaCare doesn’t work,” Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday.

    Republicans were able to get the repeal bill through the Senate, where Democrats had filibustered previous efforts, by using a fast-track process known as reconciliation that allows the bill to pass with a simple majority.

    Democrats denounced the measure on the House floor, repeatedly invoking the roughly 16 million people enrolled in ObamaCare programs.

    They pointed to an analysis of the repeal bill from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office that found it would result in about 22 million fewer people having health insurance in the years after 2017.

    “I’ve never been able to understand the great zeal to take healthcare away from people,” said Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.).

    Republicans say they are playing the long game with the repeal vote, hoping it will give voters a glimpse of how they would govern if they win back the White House in November. All of the GOP’s presidential hopefuls have expressed support for rolling back the law.

    Democrats scoff at the idea of a Republican replacement for ObamaCare.

    “If this were a serious effort, you’d at least have offered an alternative,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.).

    Republicans have for years promised to replace the healthcare law but so far have not coalesced around a plan.

    Ryan says that’s about to change. He has asked his committee chairmen to work on crafting a single plan from the dozens of replacement bills that have been put forward in the House.

    Republicans also plan to discuss an ObamaCare alternative at their retreat in Baltimore next week.

    Asked why a replacement was not put forward on Wednesday, Ryan responded: “Just wait.”

    In the meantime, Republicans appear confident that they have the upper hand on the issue, with polls showing the law remains unpopular with the majority of the public.

    Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), a doctor and leading Republican voice on healthcare, on Tuesday criticized ObamaCare plans for their high deductibles, saying that while people have gained coverage, they often still cannot afford care.

    “Premiums are up, deductibles are up,” Price said. “I get calls from my former physician colleagues almost weekly telling me that patients in their office are now electing not to get care because they can’t meet their deductible.”

    Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-Ark.), a freshman lawmaker invited to speak at the GOP leadership press conference Wednesday, denounced the law’s expansion of Medicaid as “one of the most egregious parts of ObamaCare.”

    He said Medicaid, the government insurance program for the poor, is traditionally for the “aged, blind and the disabled” and that ObamaCare wrongly expanded it to people who are “working age” and “able-bodied.”

    The healthcare law allows states to cover people at or below 133 percent of the federal poverty line under Medicaid, which is about $32,000 per year for a family of four. Some states have rejected the expansion.

    The reconciliation bill now headed to the White House does not repeal all of ObamaCare, because the rules under reconciliation forced Republicans to pick and choose.

    Still, the bill scraps some of the Affordable Care Act’s central elements, including the expansion of Medicaid and the federal subsidies that help people buy private coverage. The repeal of both items is delayed until 2018, which Republicans say would give them time to put a replacement in place.

    The measure also gets rid of the mandates for individuals to have health insurance and or employers to provide it, as well as repeals a range of taxes, such as those on medical devices and high-cost health insurance plans.

    Finally, the bill cuts off federal funding to Planned Parenthood for one year. The bill would also provide $235 million in extra funding for community health centers, which Republicans say could fill the gap left by Planned Parenthood.

    “We’ve been at this, what, for five years now,” Ryan said Tuesday night on Fox News’s “Hannity.” “We finally found what I think is the smart strategy to be able to get a bill on [Obama’s] desk.”





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    IIRC, isn't Paul Ryan the guy they brought in to jamb it through during its final stages? WTF?!?!
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    I hope they leave in the good parts, like free medicaid for poor people. I like free stuff.

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    Gee, maybe POTUS Barry will sign it this time.

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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...eal-obamacare/

    Are Republicans really this stupid? Oh, I forgot, they are what Sam Francis called the Stupid Party. What a waste of time. Trying to get Obama to agree to repealing ObamaCare is like trying to get Republicans to agree to end foreign aid, end foreign wars, and bring the troops home.
    Better waste their time than "get things done" with their partners in crime in the blue jerseys.
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    Election theater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    bump
    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Gee, maybe POTUS Barry will sign it this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Election theater.
    Election theater? No way... they are totally serious about repeal, for sure
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