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“gambling his political future on the QUIXOTIC notion...”
Facepalm.
I support Justin Amash over the other candidates. I would support Matt Bevin over the other candidates. Call me crazy.
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Chris
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I do believe Amash has a touch of TDS, but I can see his point. Trump steamrolled the remnants of the liberty movement like they weren't even there.
And in all fairness, I don't think Massie's base is the same as Amash's though. I don't remember the GOP aggressively trying to oust Massie. With Amash, they called him a terrorist, and when that failed they tried to redistrict him out. The GOP literally tried to put a Democrat in that chair rather than tolerate a fiscal conservative. If Michigan didn't have straight ticket voting, Amash might stand a chance in his district precisely because of the lines the GOP drew.
I don't have to pick sides here. I send Massie cash, I send Amash cash, and I send Rand cash.
There was and then it just kind of went away one day. It was really strange https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...stevens-101293
As crazy as it sounds, I think McConnell has some sort of a role in discouraging a challenger. Around the time Rand was getting the most attention after the 2012, he endorsed McConnell and started doing a lot of stuff with the Chamber of Commerce. Massie also gave a full throated endorsement of McConnell over Bevin. (People seem to forget that.) I noticed when Amash had a challenger the Chamber of Commerce endorsed his opponent but spent zero dollars on the race even though it was a pretty close race. I suspect all of those things were connected.
Amash was the only GOP candidate that the CoC tried to take out : https://www.motherjones.com/politics...a-brian-ellis/
And this last paragraph is some serious foreshadowing:
Update: After the results were in, Amash reportedly let the challenger’s concession call go to voicemail, and then ripped into him his victory speech: “You owe my family and this community an apology for your disgusting, despicable smear campaign. You had the audacity to try and call me today after running a campaign that was called the nastiest in the country. I ran for office to stop people like you.”
Walter Jones, Mark Sanford, Justin Amash. I wonder who is next?
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I was definitely wrong to say they spent zero dollars. I remember they strongly denounced Amash on Twitter but I have it in my mind from reading all the articles surrounding his race on a daily basis that they stopped advertising pretty early. It has been six years but I am about 80% sure they had a sudden shift.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
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I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
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You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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More like: we can have nothing, because you people outvote us (and numbers are of supreme importance, of course).
So, the communists, or national socialists, same thing, will take over.
And that's a great tragedy.
The only thing a sane person can do is refuse to participate.
Wrong, there is much that we agree upon and that we can get, we just can't get it all at once.
It would even be much easier for you try for that which we disagree upon if we first moved forward on what we agree upon.
Letting the communists win takes us all farther away from our goals and seriously endangers the possibility of ever get them in whole or in part.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I hate to break it to you bud, but you are also in an extreme minority.
If the world consisted of people like you and people like me, we probably could work something out - but it doesn't.
The options are very high spending, welfare-warfare clowns who have this view of toilets and other trivial matters..
..or very high spending, welfare-warfare clowns who have that other view of toilets and other trivial matters.
So, views of toilets aside, there's not actually a choice.
We can sell principles that work before the crash, or we can sell principles that work after the crash proves that a lack of principles leads to a fall.
What we cannot do is sell principles after joining one or the other of the unprincipled groups who are fighting over trivialities while everything falls apart.
Of course, both groups sell themselves as principled, and get downright phlegmatic when one says their only principle is cheat better than the other side cheats.
Its hilarious and not at the same time to be here in this thread. What we have is a consensus cracking that happens every thread on this forum. Look into "consensus cracking".
Why do the forum regulars fight amongst the shills? I find it a valiant effort, although quite useless. One day we will paint all our traitors blue. amash can be first
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