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I'd like to see a freer country but its not gonna happen anytime soon.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
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"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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lol true story
Can't figure out who to root for here, so I think I'll just enjoy the shtshow.
Dafuq...? You drinkin' kid?
Unfortunately I am unable to bestow rep upon you, sir, so please have +1, with my regards.
People in a free society deal with each other voluntarily. Individuals trade with other when it is mutually beneficial. The only way someone gains is if the other person also feels like they are getting a good deal. Sounds like a pretty fair way of doing things to me.
How is what you are proposing fair? People voted democratically with their pocketbooks. You want to undo that and reward people like you who steal from everyone else. It is true what you are proposing is not "dog eat dog". It is anti-Darwinian. The weakest and laziest rise in your system and are held up as heroes for having a pulse. The successful are punished and plundered. The scorn that you have for the people who created the wealth that you can mooch off is an interesting part of human nature and it shows how corrupting handouts are to the recipient.
I think if you add all the extras, 15.3 FICA, unemployment insurance/Comp taxes, sales taxes (and corporate taxes pass along down to the consumer in higher prices), property taxes, registration and other various fees, Utility/phone/Internet taxes, Capital gains taxes, etc., some are paying in excess of 60% of their money to the government.
Pfizer Macht Frei!
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Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM... BILLY'S STROKING HIS EGO AGAIN!!!!
WILLIAM RUTHERFORD JOHNSON! What have I told you about that?!! You stop that this instant!!
No son of mine is going around with a cane and palms need shavin', dammit.
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There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
This is most likely wishful thinking but I do hope that one day somebody will rise up and challenge this entire corrupt world to a fight.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
The vast majority of libertarians want to be perceived as radicals who want to change society, as opposed to actually doing the work necessary to change it. Say what you want about the left, most of the genuinely want to see whatever horrible visions they have come to fruition. The Liberty Movement, insofar as it was even a real thing, was largely an expression of psychological opposition to authority, lacking the patience, grit, and vision to actually enact change.
NeoReactionary. American High Tory.
The counter-revolution will not be televised.
I disagree with you about The Liberty Movement. I think TLR has had a few small wins here and there but things like Ending the Fed are such monumental tasks that only a handful of people with any power would support and help with that it's almost impossible to accomplish. Personally, I don't think I'll see any big wins for liberty in my lifetime. For the changes I want to see happen to stand a chance, it will most likely require a collapse of the current $#@! show. I'm not wishing for that to happen, btw. I think a collapse would be horrific and I don't wish that kind of suffering on anyone*.
The Lefties are successful because they have 1) a lot of celebrities and the press helping sell their ideas and 2) all their ideas expand government and the vast majority of Republicans in power, no matter how much lip service they pay to personal freedom and fiscal responsibility, love the idea of expanding the government.
*Almost anyone. I have a list of people I would actually enjoy watching suffer.
Your being a fool, you can't live in a society of the old, you can't live in a world without handouts or healthcare, because will always be somebody who will rely on that, if not me, it will be my neighbour or it will be yourself or your neighbour or the next man or woman in another state, then there is the state pension, everyone should save for it if we don't have a state pension.
You are looking at life in a simple way, the old west was hard and brutish, leftwing people want society to have safety nets, they aren't perfect, but one way to deal with America's problem is get rid of food stamps and replace it with cash.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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I can imagine what policy that would initiate in my country alone, dole offices would close, people couldn't pay their bills or the rent without housing benefit. In an ideal society none of this should be around, but it is, society is changing, technology is becoming a part of everyone's life. A self service machine gave me a 20p piece which is from the isle of Guernsey instead of the typical 20pence.
I think welfare will become a fact of life in the future for many, not as a temporary option but something that is permanent.
That is being ignorant. There are people who work hard out there, who are on welfare. Okay may be some of those people haven't made the best choices, but looking at reality like everyone should just do this and that, isn't fair.
Like I gave the example, I couldn't live away from family unemployed in a flat, the capital is too expensive, there is currently a home building plan going on, but its not enough, its going to be years until this change.
As for employment, well that depends on location, skills, and so on. So unemployment benefit will always be there, a society running on charity won't work. It won't.
The only solution to get rid of the social homes, places where I live for example would be to buy property. In my part of the estate I live on, at least eight homes are private, out of fifty. I don't agree with removing this system, this assures homes for the poorest in society. Otherwise I don't see how else there would be any real safety. Only very cheap homes would be solution, and I mean really really cheap homes.
If the capital isn't the problem, then outer areas will be affected by the movement of poorer people, so prices go up. London has been expensive for a long time, and would be nine million people within the county borders.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I wouldn't imagine it being removed that quickly, what I'm getting at is, that society as complex as it is, and with technology doesn't make freedom like liberty work. Unless robots could replace people, then may be, but that wouldn't work for people, since majority of people are employed and that is generally their life living arrangement.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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