I don't think either are good. But they are not Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush and maintained at least a semblance of independence.
For me it just comes down to who did less harm. I think that's still an open question.
Trump is much worse than any of those on trade and immigration. But he's never done anything as bad as Obamacare or the Iraq War.
Agree on the first, though probably not for the same reasons. The second is what truly matters; most everything else is commentary. And on that you are 100% correct.Originally Posted by Superfluous Man
Trump = Reagan
FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!
why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide
Baptiste said.
At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?
If Trump gets his eight years in with no new wars and winds down the others , the govt leaves healthcare be , no new income tax increases , thats as good as modern america will ever see . Look at how useless most of the house and senate are . There will never be spending cuts . Enjoy the calm .
Do something Danke
Trump is already better than Reagan but I blame Bush Sr. for almost everything that happened under Reagan.
That assassination attempt may have failed but it let RWR know who was boss.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Trump is more Nixon than Reagan. Reagan wanted walls torn down. Trump wants them put up.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-18-2019 at 07:59 PM.
LOL
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Promised to end wars but didn't, wanted to make a deal with China. Paranoid. Deal in stoking people's fears. Trump even hired some Nixon people to work for him including Nixon's dirty tricks specialist Roger Stone.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-18-2019 at 06:30 PM.
Trump is working on ending wars and he wants to make China play fair not build them up as a counter balance to Russia, Trump isn't paranoid.Promised to end wars but didn't, wanted to make a deal with China. Paranoid. Trump even hired some Nixon people to work for him including Nixon's dirty tricks specialist Roger Stone.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
If it wasn't for Trump's constant Israel ass sucking, I'd vote him head and shoulders above
Reagan.
Reagan had some great quotes an was everyone's favorite Uncle, Trump has actually
made a difference.
I thought Joe Biden was everyones favorite uncle.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
...everyone'sfavorite(Creepy) uncle
Both did some good. Both were gun grabbers. Hopefully Trump will quit listening to his neocon advisers and make peace with Iran the same way Reagan made peace with the USSR. Once peace was made with the USSR, the "evil empire" collapsed. The Bolton method of "confrontation against Iran above all" is what is propping up the Islamic Republic.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I'm not informed enough to speculate whether peace had anything to do with their collapse. Ron always said socialism in the Soviet Union didn't collapse because we beat it; it collapsed because it is socialism.
The fundamentals of the Soviet Union were bad, no doubt about that. But there is something about an external threat that unites people. People are willing to sacrifice because the alternative of surrender to the big bad boogeyman is unthinkable.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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