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"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
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Try to not make things up because you don't care about the truth. I said Rand allows the President their pick but he does want questions answered.
No I don't want bi partisanship. That's just another of your lies because you are more concerned with appearing right than you are with the truth.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Found this:
So this rule is supposed to put a little time between military service and civilian government service. By a vote of 69-27, the Senate waived that rule.Lee also was among senators on the losing side of a 69-27 vote on Thursday to give a special waiver to Austin to allow him to serve as secretary of defense without first waiting through a normally required 7-year period after active military service.
Conn Carroll, spokesperson for Lee, said the senator “believes civilian control of the military is best served by the existing rule requiring a seven-year gap between active duty and the position of secretary of defense.”
He added, “Other senators may have voted to waive that rule for Gen. Austin, but Sen. Lee believes it should be uniformly applied.”
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...se/ar-BB1d0lYa
While just about everyone sees the problem of the revolving door between government and private industry (and lobbying), they never seem to have a problem with granting waivers. I see that Austin’s short time in the private sector included Raytheon, although Lee (or his spokesman) did not mention that as a reason. MIC will be MIC.
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"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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Yes, we all know you hate Trump. We got it the first hundred times you said it. If you want to have a discussion about Rand Paul, then let's do it. Otherwise, my comment did not pertain to Trump and you are more than welcome to exit this exchange. I am not interested in talking about Trump in this thread. You will not hijack my replies.
What exactly is the complaint here, anyway? Is it the civilian control of the military issue, or is it purely that all of Biden's nominees should be opposed?
If it's the former, well obviously Mattis had the same issue, as mentioned.
If it's the latter, that is asinine. Opposing everything that Biden does makes the opposition easy to dismiss and ignore as rank partisanship. Selective opposition when there's a point to be made about the opposition seems to be the better strategy.
I'm guessing it's partisanship, as it took until the second page for anyone to even begin to articulate why Austin should be opposed, rather than just taking it as given.
Observe as acptulsa sidetracks familydog's response to someone else by invoking Trump out of nowhere, then whines about his inability to stay on topic being pointed out. It must be some conspiracy against acptulsa, it could not possibly be due to the fact he simply made a fool of himself.
You're trying to have it both ways again.
If Bolton's appointment was worthless, then there is no reason for Republicans to have given their support to things they would otherwise have opposed in exchange for it. And if they would not otherwise have opposed those things, then there is no reason for Trump to have offered Bolton's appointment ("worthless" or not) in exchange for their support of those things.
As elaborate as it is, this just reduces to another "both ways" argument.
If a veto would have been overridden, then ipso facto a veto threat could not have provided "leverage" of any kind. Empty and Impotent threats are empty and impotent, and there is no reason for Republicans to have respected them (let alone give up anything they would not otherwise have ceded).
Again, if Trump gets a pass, then so does Rand.
And if Rand does not get a pass, then neither does Trump.
Either of these branches can be defended without contradiction, but "mixing and matching" requires the hand-waving application of a double standard.
The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)· tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·
Giving the other side something they think has value but really doesn't is getting a great deal and that is what Trump did.
Republicans thought Bolton as NSA was valuable to them and they saw value in not overriding the vetoes of a popular president from their own party.
Rand gets nothing from anyone for his confirmations votes.
And Rand has stated that a POTUS has a right to have his appointments confirmed, Trump never said Congress had a right to not be vetoed, he used veto threats to get things he wanted and he also issued vetoes.
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Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
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You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Austin is no better or worse, no different than every other SecDef appointed by any administration. Contractor puppet and bends knee to Israel and Vatican. SSDD
Rand has always been open in his belief that POTUS (CFR's chosen, really) is entitled to his cabinet picks unless there's otherwise something illegal or extremely troubling about them.
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Exactly.
But if @acptulsa brings up the hypocrisy of members saying Rand has been "derelict of duty" for this, while Trump is given excuses for everything from filling the swamp to Operation Warp Speed, then he is falls into the insult/name-calling/no real discussion/divide & haters attacks on the forum.
There is no spoon.
Careful. The more people shout, "That's only a conspiracy theory!" the more RPF posters come to believe there's something to it.
Will Rogers said, "If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't stupidity get us out?". And if hypocrisy got them into this mess, why can't hypocrisy get them out?
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