Bill Cosby found Guilty

[Danke]

Kinda sad.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-cosby-courthouse-jury-debates-fate-125520724.html


A lawyer for some of Bill Cosby's accusers says "justice has been done" after the comedian's conviction on sexual assault charges.
Gloria Allred represents three of the five additional accusers who testified that Cosby drugged and molested them. Cosby's lawyers painted the women as home-wreckers and liars who made up their allegations in a bid for money and fame.
Allred spoke Thursday outside the suburban Philadelphia courthouse where Cosby was convicted. She says her clients are grateful to the jury for seeing past "his defense attorney's lies."
Cosby accuser Janice Baker-Kinney, who alleges he drugged and raped her in 1982, says in a statement she's relieved "this toxic chain of silence has been broken" and says the women can move forward "with heads held high."

[jmdrake]

Kinda sad.

I agree.

[Todd]

Yeah. I don't have too much respect for too many entertainers. But I did for him. Depressing.

[Danke]

Yeah. I don't have too much respect for too many entertainers. But I did for him. Depressing.

Gloria Allred. I wish ...nvm. Best left unsaid.

[brushfire]

Meh... if he did it, fk cosby. I say, rot in jail, ahole. Beyond the poor choices made, and violating the rights of those women, I dont see anything sad about the outcome here.

The dude had so much money and fame - why was it even necessary?

I'm sure he would have found plenty of women to take the drugs willingly - if he enjoys passed out partners. I think its because he's a predator, much like slick willy clinton.

It'll be interesting to see his sentence though - will it be a paris hilton sentence, or will they hang the ol coz by his nads?

[dannno]

Cosby accuser Janice Baker-Kinney, who alleges he drugged and raped her in 1982, says in a statement she's relieved "this toxic chain of silence has been broken" and says the women can move forward "with heads held high."

What a crock of $#@!, how does what they did help ANYBODY?? Or anything? It doesn't. At all.. In fact all it does is take Cosby's positive messages about family values and drags them through the mud... at this point it would have been better if they just stayed silent..

Now, if they had come forward when it actually happened, preferably with some sort of evidence, then they could have stopped it from happening to other women. Ok, fine, nobody tries to justify the priest molesting kids by saying he is helping people too... but what purpose does this serve so long after the fact?

[wizardwatson]

What a crock of $#@!, how does what they did help ANYBODY?? Or anything? It doesn't. At all.. In fact all it does is take Cosby's positive messages about family values and drags them through the mud... at this point it would have been better if they just stayed silent..

Now, if they had come forward when it actually happened, preferably with some sort of evidence, then they could have stopped it from happening to other women. Ok, fine, nobody tries to justify the priest molesting kids by saying he is helping people too... but what purpose does this serve so long after the fact?

I understand the point you are trying to address, but the real point of the justice system is to punish criminals, prevent crime, and deter crime. So the purpose of prosecuting Bill the rapist, is to keep him from raping, primarily.

[Danke]

I understand the point you are trying to address, but the real point of the justice system is to punish criminals, prevent crime, and deter crime. So the purpose of prosecuting Bill the rapist, is to keep him from raping, primarily.

If he can still rape with his age and health condition, he should be applauded.

[RJB]

If he can still rape with his age and health condition, he should be applauded.

And market his secret.

[heavenlyboy34]

I understand the point you are trying to address, but the real point of the justice system is to punish criminals, prevent crime, and deter crime. So the purpose of prosecuting Bill the rapist, is to keep him from raping, primarily.

No it's not. Ask our friend AF. The point of the "justice" system is to fill the jails and extort money. An actual "justice" system would have nothing to do with preventing or deterring crime. It would be entirely about providing justice to victims of crimes.

[wizardwatson]

No it's not. Ask our friend AF. The point of the "justice" system is to fill the jails and extort money. An actual "justice" system would have nothing to do with preventing or deterring crime. It would be entirely about providing justice to victims of crimes.

Based on what? Rothbard's economic "right of retribution"?

Common law system isn't perfect (isn't really what we have anymore either) but Rothbard's victim/property restitution system is even dumber and even more difficult to apply.

You cannot derive a moral framework from a property based reasoning. He tried in Ethics of Liberty, but failed. Certainly, it is "moral" to recognize property rights, but holding property as "sacred" is not what leads to liberty.

[donnay]

Sad day indeed. He, like Kanye was speaking to the black Americans around the country before this issue came up, that is what made me suspicious of these women coming forward. It stop him from promoting free thinking.







Yet Bill Clinton still walks. Justice was not served with the criminal justice system we have.

[shakey1]

Sad day indeed. He, like Kanye was speaking to the black Americans around the country before this issue came up, that is what made me suspicious of these women coming forward. It stop him from promoting free thinking.







Yet Bill Clinton still walks. Justice was not served with the criminal justice system we have.

good point.

[Swordsmyth]

Update: In a brief statement made outside the courthouse, Cosby attorney Tom Mesereau said "we are very disappointed in the verdict," and added that Cosby's legal team intended to appeal "very strongly."
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...0-years-prison

[heavenlyboy34]

Based on what? Rothbard's economic "right of retribution"?

Common law system isn't perfect (isn't really what we have anymore either) but Rothbard's victim/property restitution system is even dumber and even more difficult to apply.

You cannot derive a moral framework from a property based reasoning. He tried in Ethics of Liberty, but failed. Certainly, it is "moral" to recognize property rights, but holding property as "sacred" is not what leads to liberty.

Property is a critical part, but you're right that Murray failed in "Ethics". Actual justice seeks to make the victim whole as best as possible. Going beyond that isn't "justice".

justice

[juhs-tis]



noun 1.the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.



2.rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.



3.the moral principle determining just conduct.

[Anti Federalist]

I don"t know what was presented, but it seems like the only "evidence" presented was "I say it happened, and you have to believe me because, vagina".

This is the same "evidence" cops use. Believe me because "badge".

And the only way to protect yourself against cops and woemen popping up 40 years, or 40 days after the fact of anything, to tell a story and send you to jail is the same for both.

Avoid them like the plague.

Monk.

Ghost.

Disappear.

[phill4paul]

I don"t know what was presented, but it seems like the only "evidence" presented was "I say it happened, and you have to believe me because, vagina".

This is the same "evidence" cops use. Believe me because "badge".

And the only way to protect yourself against cops and woemen popping up 40 years, or 40 days after the fact of anything, to tell a story and send you to jail is the same for both.

Avoid them like the plague.

Monk.

Ghost.

Disappear.

Accusations without proof are accusations...without proof. Was their a DNA sample taken after the alleged incident? Was there indications of forced entry? Was there indications of drugs in the accusers blood sample the day after? Was there any actual evidence or was it all "testimony." I dunno. I wouldn't have convicted without proof.
But, that don't mean $#@! in the #metoowhateveritisiam environment.

[timosman]

[dannno]

Accusations without proof are accusations...without proof. Was their a DNA sample taken after the alleged incident? Was there indications of forced entry? Was there indications of drugs in the accusers blood sample the day after? Was there any actual evidence or was it all "testimony." I dunno. I wouldn't have convicted without proof.
But, that don't mean $#@! in the #metoowhateveritisiam environment.

He admitted to buying quaaludes for women who he wanted to have sex with. He has denied the accusations of what happened, I don't think he admitted to drugging women without their consent. I haven't ever done ludes before, that was way before my time. I wasn't under the impression that it was a date rape drug, more of a relaxer, but I suppose in larger quantities it could be.

I think he admitted to giving girls drinks with something when he was 13 to have sex, and this was without their consent, but if i recall it wasn't a date rape drug or anything that makes women particularly sleepy, I think it was some sort of aphrodisiac (like chocolate or strawberries).. and I don't think it worked lol..

[donnay]

This is what happens when your in the club.

Harvey Weinstein is in therapy...

Kevin Spacey is in therapy...

Bill Clinton is giving lectures...

Joe Biden may run for President in 2020...

Roman Polanski leaves the country...

[Anti Federalist]

He admitted to buying quaaludes for women who he wanted to have sex with. He has denied the accusations of what happened, I don't think he admitted to drugging women without their consent. I haven't ever done ludes before, that was way before my time. I wasn't under the impression that it was a date rape drug, more of a relaxer, but I suppose in larger quantities it could be.

I think he admitted to giving girls drinks with something when he was 13 to have sex, and this was without their consent, but if i recall it wasn't a date rape drug or anything that makes women particularly sleepy, I think it was some sort of aphrodisiac (like chocolate or strawberries).. and I don't think it worked lol..

Whoever advised him to testify to that ought to be burned alive by his own law books.

[CaptUSA]

I don"t know what was presented, but it seems like the only "evidence" presented was "I say it happened, and you have to believe me because, vagina".

This is the same "evidence" cops use. Believe me because "badge".

And the only way to protect yourself against cops and woemen popping up 40 years, or 40 days after the fact of anything, to tell a story and send you to jail is the same for both.

Avoid them like the plague.

Monk.

Ghost.

Disappear.

Well, I have no need for cops, but I can't just avoid women. I mean, at least women serve a purpose. If only there was a way to get them to serve that purpose and make it so they'd have no memory of the interaction... Hmm, I'm gonna have to think about that one.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Well, I would sure like to know the chemical designation of a "date rape" drug, because I must have missed that in chemistry class. Drugs have specific properties that result in specific physiological reactions. I've done a good variety of tranquilizers/pain pills for fun (with and without alcohol), and the results are fairly predictable. These emotional terms sound about as dubious as measuring "hate" in a "hate crime."

Anyway, I looked into it some last year, and the women I saw just seemed really dubious. They just seemed like hoes. Maybe Cosby is just some guy with a big dick who likes to party. On the other hand, perhaps some of the women are accurate and some are lying. Maybe he is a scumbag. Or, the DA and women were overzealous and were going to harp on it until they succeeded. Could be the case where they don't like a black dude off the plantation too long. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between for all the cases. It seems the truth is often somewhere in between, but sometimes it's an either/or. Maybe they're all riding each others' stories, wanted to make it big, and were just naive. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

I didn't look into much. It's hard to tell when you don't have the facts and they don't print the court testimony. I remember that there were only two pieces of information needed in the Michael Brown case to show the cop was lying. One was the cop's interview and the other was the autopsy. It took me about 10 minutes to read the autopsy. It was so abundantly clear, but no one in the media ever pointed it out. If you had access to the Cosby court testimony or some other facts, then you could probably easily determine what is going on.

[Raginfridus]

The Guy Who Played Barney the Dinosaur Now Runs a Tantric Sex Business

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z...c-sex-business

[ChristianAnarchist]

Look like the gold digger managed to hang her sugar daddy...

[Danke]

The Guy Who Played Barney the Dinosaur Now Runs a Tantric Sex Business

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z...c-sex-business

[Raginfridus]