CA-UC prof: ALL Trump supporters are racist white nationalist terrorists & must be eradicated

[Suzanimal]

I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you.

I don't have any confirmation bias messing with me and that's the way I read it, too.

If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

He said there was no room for nuance and you're nuancing, Jules.

[TheTexan]

People sometimes think I'm a racist too.

I have no idea why.

I even have a black friend, and he's not even a drug dealer.

[juleswin]

I don't have any confirmation bias messing with me and that's the way I read it, too.

True, it may not be the only reason but it definitely doesn't help your understanding of the sentence in the tweet when you have that occupying your head for the last 3 or so years.

He said there was no room for nuance and you're nuancing, Jules.

That part is him clearly talking about the idea that ALL Trump supporters are white supremacist terror supporters. He has even clarified that part in his later tweeting.

Just so people don't come out of this thinking I support the man and his ideas. I disagree with him but I just don't think he is calling for genociding anyone. The people who are trying to destroy this country and white culture are working with Trump, they are the ones causing and promoting mass migration but rarely do you see any of the people getting angry about the tweet points them out. This part really frustrates me. You cannot win a battle where you are unable to identify the enemy

[Anti Federalist]

Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

OK, keeping in mind that the person who wrote this is a NYT best selling author, a professor with a captive audience and cable TV audience of a couple million people or more...what is your suggestion?

Ignore it?

[Anti Federalist]

True, it may not be the only reason but it definitely doesn't help your understanding of the sentence in the tweet when you have that occupying your head for the last 3 or so years.

He meant exactly what he said.

Period.

[specsaregood]

OK, keeping in mind that the person who wrote this is a NYT best selling author, a professor with a captive audience and cable TV audience of a couple million people or more...what is your suggestion?

Ignore it?

The problem with pussies like him are that they will never try anything themselves. They will get others riled up to do the dirty work for him.

[Anti Federalist]

The problem with pussies like him are that they will never try anything themselves. They will get others riled up to do the dirty work for him.

Exactly...that is precisely what is going on here.

When the Bolshevik mob shows up at Rand's house for instance.

[Sammy]

Reza Aslan is a scumbag. He is BTW pro war.

[CoastieInColorado]

Exactly...that is precisely what is going on here.

When the Bolshevik mob shows up at Rand's house for instance.

Then it will be, "well, they were just using their free speech and freedom to assemble, and we can't be too sure they really meant those death threats..."

[TheTexan]

They want us to have our very own death camps to put messicans in.

That's very thoughtful of them

[Anti Globalist]

If Reza Aslan wants white supremacists eradicated, he should put his money where his mouth is and start it. That is unless hes too chicken $#@! to do it.

[CoastieInColorado]

If Reza Aslan wants white supremacists eradicated, he should put his money where his mouth is and start it. That is unless hes too chicken $#@! to do it.

The problem is is that it's people like him who are deciding who are the white supremacists-which at this point, means anyone who disagrees with any left talking points.

[Anti Federalist]

The problem is is that it's people like him who are deciding who are the white supremacists-which at this point, means anyone who disagrees with any left talking points.

I owe you a rep.

That is the problem.

Somewhere back in this thread I posted the WaPo article that lays out for the Bolshevik mobs how Trump learned his "racism" from Ron Paul.

Doesn't matter what you think of Trump at this point.

If you're a white person that is in favor of "limited government" (meaning that in the broadest of all possible ways: this would include the entire range of thought, from ana-caps to traditional conservatives and everything in between), you've got a target on your back.

If you're a "fellow traveler" of any ethnicity, you've got a target on your back.

[shakey1]

And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a $#@!ing fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

Had RP actually won in 2012, he woulda been the target of this same racist line of BS.

[Anti Federalist]

Had RP actually won in 2012, he woulda been the target of this same racist line of BS.

Of course.

It would have been non stop.

[Anti Federalist]

The Hunt - New movie where elite Bolsheviks hunt down and kill "deplorables" (that's us, in case you didn't know)

[Brian4Liberty]

Reza Aslan is a scumbag. He is BTW pro war.

And that’s what it really comes down to. If you are not pro-intervention, they will smear you.

[Swordsmyth]

Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

Take your soma elsewhere, Judas Goat.

[ProBlue33]

More and more calls for violence are stemming from national Democrats’ divisive rhetoric against President Trump and half of the country that support him.
Today in Patchogue, a city in New York, fliers were found plastered across signage declaring support for “Death Camps for Trump Supporters Now!!!”
A local theatre company captured the images:




More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/death-...s-in-new-york/

See this is a problem, humans don't learn from history there was this thing in the last 100 years called "National Socialism" that called for all people that never thought "Exactly" like them to be put into death camps and it wasn't just Jews. Have a look at the identification chart here.

[Swordsmyth]

People sometimes think I'm a racist too.

I have no idea why.

I even have a black friend, and he's not even a drug dealer.

Jules isn't a drug dealer?

[Swordsmyth]

See this is a problem, humans don't learn from history there was this thing in the last 100 years called "National Socialism" that called for all people that never thought "Exactly" like them to be put into death camps and it wasn't just Jews. Have a look at the identification chart here.

The revolution is never satiated, when it has finished off each target it always selects a new one.

[Occam's Banana]

The way I understood the tweet is that the pronoun "this" was used to identify the white supremacist group. [emphasis added - OB]

It was.

"The white supremacist[1] group" is indeed what he identified as (part of) "this evil, racist scourge" that "must be eradicated from society."[2]

That is my whole point. In the above quote, you have acknowledged that you recognize this as well.



[1] Actually, the author of the tweet used the word "nationalist," not "supremacist." But AF used "supremacist" in his paraphrase and you have followed his cue, so I will assume that the terms are being used interchangeably for purposes of this particular discussion.

[2] And he explicitly identified the members of that group as being "His [i.e., Trump's] supporters - ALL OF THEM" (who he describes "by definition" as being "white nationalist terror supporters"). IOW: He is not identifying the abstraction of "white nationalism" as being the "scourge" which "must be eradicated" - he is identifying a particular group of "white nationalists" (specifically, all Trump supporters) as the "scourge" to be "eradicated" ... (and again, you might argue that he didn't "really" mean it that way ... but he absolutely did say it that way, regardless of what he might have meant ...)

[Swordsmyth]

Sneaky muslims.

[Anti Federalist]

Actually, the author of the tweet used the word "nationalist," not "supremacist." But AF used "supremacist" in his paraphrase and you have followed his cue, so I will assume that the terms are being used interchangeably for purposes of this particular discussion.

Oh damn you're right, that was an error on my part.

Flagging the OP for a correction in the headline.

No need to cloud the issue here.

[phill4paul]

Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

Ah, but there are hundreds of millions dumbfounded dip-$#@!s out there who take these wedge issues to heart. Ignore at your own peril.

[A Son of Liberty]

I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you. If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

Jeezus dude... come on... I'm ardently anti-Trump as I am anti-anyone-holding-that-office... but... come on...

It's getting out of hand. It's gotten to the point where these... so-called... for lack of a better term, "leftists" (they might as well be aliens at this point for as insane as they've gotten) are entirely unrecognizable as rational human beings, man.

I'm not here to align myself with the Swordsmyth's and Dannno's of this forum, but... COME ON.

These people are - at a minimum - spiraling themselves up into an unprovoked froth, and I don't see any outcome other than mayhem.

I'll be honest here, even as an avowed and committed anti-statist, what has been going on - from the arrival of mass numbers at the border to the media coverage and the political left's rhetoric regarding it frankly has the smell of a manufactured crisis. I'm not saying that I reject statelessness, but I am saying that there does in fact appear to be too many coincidences to be accidental, much as I do hate to say it.

We're literally at a point where I and a leftist can be looking at the same color and I say "blue" and he says "red". It's remarkable, what is happening right now. I'm not going out on a limb here but I'm more and more certain that we're facing some kind of civil conflict in the near future. We've been divided before, and to be sure we've endured tumultuous times since 1865, but I'm not sure that we've seen such fundamental disagreements since then.

[A Son of Liberty]

I owe you a rep.

That is the problem.

Somewhere back in this thread I posted the WaPo article that lays out for the Bolshevik mobs how Trump learned his "racism" from Ron Paul.

Doesn't matter what you think of Trump at this point.

If you're a white person that is in favor of "limited government" (meaning that in the broadest of all possible ways: this would include the entire range of thought, from ana-caps to traditional conservatives and everything in between), you've got a target on your back.

If you're a "fellow traveler" of any ethnicity, you've got a target on your back.

It's not even limited to quote-unquote limited government types, I'm afraid.

I've been watching a lot of Tim Pool videos on YT lately and he - as a left-of-center commentator - does a good job of laying it out in a rather frank and legitimately unbiased manner... If you disagree with THEM, you're EVIL. You're a RACIST, and/or a BIGOT, and/or a FASCIST, and/or a WHATEVER-THE-FCK-THEY-CAN-CALL-YOU-THAT-WILL-DESTROY-YOU. THEY have become insane... THEY have become so ensconced in emotion-driven madness that when they are eventually - inevitably - faced with enough resistance, THEY will turn to the ends all collectivists ultimately return to - elimination of THEIR opposition.

[Anti Federalist]

It's not even limited to quote-unquote limited government types, I'm afraid.

I've been watching a lot of Tim Pool videos on YT lately and he - as a left-of-center commentator - does a good job of laying it out in a rather frank and legitimately unbiased manner... If you disagree with THEM, you're EVIL. You're a RACIST, and/or a BIGOT, and/or a FASCIST, and/or a WHATEVER-THE-FCK-THEY-CAN-CALL-YOU-THAT-WILL-DESTROY-YOU. THEY have become insane... THEY have become so ensconced in emotion-driven madness that when they are eventually - inevitably - faced with enough resistance, THEY will turn to the ends all collectivists ultimately return to - elimination of THEIR opposition.

That is where we are at today.

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...59939980861440

@juleswin

[CoastieInColorado]

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@juleswin

This is so surreal. In real time, right now, my youtube feed is blowing up with MSM news sources, "white supremacy" this and that. I'm honestly surprised they're not showing archival footage of crosses burning at this point. These people want to see everyone that disagrees with them dead, or in prison, period, there is no nuance here.

That applies to EVERYONE here people....I think it's cute that some of you here honestly believe your "$#@! trump" attitude will save you.

The white supremacist label is being slapped on everyone not towing the line, and will be used as the excuse to start killing people here very shortly...