Afghan refugee wins New Hampshire statehouse primary

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah....that comes with the fact that they are illegal. Causing your own problem.

No, limiting the problem, pitiful as or immigration control is it does limit the deluge, even if a few more voted for RINOs if we just let them all in they still vote Demoncrat at higher than average rates and the massive increase in their numbers would overwhelm the slight improvement in the rate.

Letting Mexico conquer the US through immigration and voting is a recipe for turning the US into Mexico, I'll pass on that.

[phill4paul]

So I need to support a police state for the children. Got it. The child sex trafficking is actually helped by closed borders. Coyotes gotta get paid. Just like the phony war on drugs the police state only makes the problem worse. But you sound like every neocon government shill ever. "What? You don't like the body scanners at the airport and the surveillance state? Are you for terrorism?" Same song slightly different lyrics.

Will you allow citizens to end it? I'm for that. Property owners or their hires? States executing none citizens for trespass? Child sex trafficking is NOT helped by closed borders. In any sense. Prove it.
I can only assume that you are fine with it. Free market and all that.
There is no free market in human trade.
But, I dunno, don't wanna assume or strawman.
You tell me. All roads from the north and south, all ports from the east and west, open, no control. Cool with you?

[jmdrake]

No, limiting the problem, pitiful as or immigration control is it does limit the deluge, even if a few more voted for RINOs if we just let them all in they still vote Demoncrat at higher than average rates and the massive increase in their numbers would overwhelm the slight improvement in the rate.

Letting Mexico conquer the US through immigration and voting is a recipe for turning the US into Mexico, I'll pass on that.

The illegals, when they get a chance, vote their own interests. And their own interests is in not being illegal.

[Swordsmyth]

LOL. You just can't admit you were wrong. So I'll say if for you. You were wrong.
You claimed the dems from Cali brought the case. They didn't.

You are wrong as well, after thinking about it I remember that the California case never made it past the state supreme court after the Dems sued, the national case was decided before it could be appealed to SCOTUS.

And Cali is solidly democrat with or without the Latino vote.

It wasn't until the illegals tipped the balance and drove swarms of conservatives out of the state.

[phill4paul]

Except the troops won't be brought home. More will be hired. That's what you are missing.

I'm calling for a logical choice. Just as Ron Paul did. It's at least worth a discussion on the national stage. No? Because he brought it up.

[Swordsmyth]

The illegals, when they get a chance, vote their own interests. And their own interests is in not being illegal.

And in turning America into a socialist hellhole like Mexico.

[jmdrake]

Will you allow citizens to end it? I'm for that. Property owners or their hires? States executing none citizens for trespass? Child sex trafficking is NOT helped by closed borders. In any sense. Prove it.
I can only assume that you are fine with it. Free market and all that.

I can only assume that means you are a total moron and dumb as hell. Do you think Ron Paul supports people overdosing on drugs? He supports ending the drug war.

Black markets are were the scum of the earth operate. And there is a black market for smuggling people that is fueled in part by the fact that it's illegal to come over even if you aren't trying to sell drugs or children. There was a time when you could get in your car and just drive over to Mexico, spend a day, and drive back without having to go through a constitution free zone. Guess what? There was not as much child sex trafficking back then. You sound like Elizabeth Warren grilling Ben Carson on why he didn't implement the Obama administration recommendations for fighting housing discrimination. After all the recommendations were SUPPOSED to fight discrimination right? Similarly your "If you don't support my idea to fight child sex trafficking you must be for child sex trafficking" nonsense is stupid beyond belief. Yes. Let's also create a federal internet filter like the Great Firewall of China because children were supposedly being sex trafficked on sites like Backpage.com and if you are opposed to that idea you must support child sex trafficking! Really, that's your argument in a nutshell.

[timosman]

The illegals, when they get a chance, vote their own interests. And their own interests is in not being illegal.

Legally, how do you move from being illegal to being legal?

[jmdrake]

And in turning America into a socialist hellhole like Mexico.

Right. Cause that's why they are leaving Mexico. You know your boy Trump is welcoming refugees from socialist hellhole Venezuela right? Maybe you need to give him a call and set him straight.

[jmdrake]

Legally, how do you move from being illegal to being legal?

Trump's touchback amnesty plan?

[timosman]

Trump's touchback amnesty plan?

Point is there is no mechanism. You have to go back.

[Danke]

Weird, u are actually right. Militarizing the borders could result in less govt but less freedom if the govt pulls back all the troops overseas and invests a small portion of the funds into defending the border.

It would also be less govt if the govt withdrew from international engagement and put cameras on all the street corners and spied on all our phone calls and texts. Less govt doesnt always mean more freedom. Some men yern for freedom and other just want safety and prosperity. I can sympathize with both sides but I more of a freedom type of person.

What kind of person are u?

No with a southern wall, less patrols needed. And less crime that grows government, and less "programs" and less government schooling, that also grows government.

So net, a decrease.

[Swordsmyth]

Right. Cause that's why they are leaving Mexico.

Just like Californians and Yankees do within the US, they don't believe that what they voted for caused the mess they fled, they blame it on other things and recreate it wherever they go.

You know your boy Trump is welcoming refugees from socialist hellhole Venezuela right? Maybe you need to give him a call and set him straight.

That isn't good but he is cutting down on the illegal flood across the southern border and and end TPS for other "refugees" and cutting the "refugee" limit and many other similar things.

[Swordsmyth]

There was a time when you could get in your car and just drive over to Mexico, spend a day, and drive back without having to go through a constitution free zone. Guess what? There was not as much child sex trafficking back then.

And we are just supposed to take your word for that?

[jmdrake]

And we are just supposed to take your word for that?

No. Use your own common sense. Are you old enough to remember the 1970s? Did you hear about a lot of child sex trafficking back then? If you aren't old enough to remember that, ask your parents.

[Swordsmyth]

No. Use your own common sense. Are you old enough to remember the 1970s? Did you hear about a lot of child sex trafficking back then? If you aren't old enough to remember that, ask your parents.

Not hearing about it doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

[jmdrake]

Point is there is no mechanism. You have to go back.

I'm not sure what your point is at all actually. At least not in relation to anything I said. @Swordsmyth is the one talking about how illegals vote. And some who come over illegally do get asylum especially if the come from countries like Venezuela. Which is why this is all such hypocrisy. Most of the recent wave of immigrants aren't coming from Mexico. They are coming from right wing El Salvador. Surely that should be a paradise about now right? If Mexico or El Salvador really went the way of Venezuela then Republicans would welcome their people with open arms.

[phill4paul]

I can only assume that means you are a total moron and dumb as hell. Do you think Ron Paul supports people overdosing on drugs? He supports ending the drug war.

Black markets are were the scum of the earth operate. And there is a black market for smuggling people that is fueled in part by the fact that it's illegal to come over even if you aren't trying to sell drugs or children. There was a time when you could get in your car and just drive over to Mexico, spend a day, and drive back without having to go through a constitution free zone. Guess what? There was not as much child sex trafficking back then. You sound like Elizabeth Warren grilling Ben Carson on why he didn't implement the Obama administration recommendations for fighting housing discrimination. After all the recommendations were SUPPOSED to fight discrimination right? Similarly your "If you don't support my idea to fight child sex trafficking you must be for child sex trafficking" nonsense is stupid beyond belief. Yes. Let's also create a federal internet filter like the Great Firewall of China because children were supposedly being sex trafficked on sites like Backpage.com and if you are opposed to that idea you must support child sex trafficking! Really, that's your argument in a nutshell.

No. My argument in a nutshell is.... Can I hunt down and kill these individuals without government interference? Can ranchers on the border shoot individuals for crossing their property uninvited? Can states hunt down and kill these individuals as they cross their borders if the citizens of their states agree on it?
What say you? You seem to think that child sex trafficking is only popular because it's illegal. Well, duh! You don't think it should be?

[jmdrake]

I'm calling for a logical choice. Just as Ron Paul did. It's at least worth a discussion on the national stage. No? Because he brought it up.

If someone puts forward a bill that says "For the next 8 years there can be no increases in military spending. All troops will be brought home. A small number will help allowed to join the U.S. border patrol after they de-commission, and we will save billions of dollars" then I wouldn't be against that. But that ain't gonna happen.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm not sure what your point is at all actually. At least not in relation to anything I said. @Swordsmyth is the one talking about how illegals vote. And some who come over illegally do get asylum especially if the come from countries like Venezuela. Which is why this is all such hypocrisy. Most of the recent wave of immigrants aren't coming from Mexico. They are coming from right wing El Salvador. Surely that should be a paradise about now right? If Mexico or El Salvador really went the way of Venezuela then Republicans would welcome their people with open arms.

"right wing" El Salvador?



We won't welcome any of them with open arms, they are all far more communist than the US.

[phill4paul]

If someone puts forward a bill that says "For the next 8 years there can be no increases in military spending. All troops will be brought home. A small number will help allowed to join the U.S. border patrol after they de-commission, and we will save billions of dollars" then I wouldn't be against that. But that ain't gonna happen.

Neither is an end to welfare. But, you seem to advocate for open borders regardless.

[jmdrake]

No. My argument in a nutshell is.... Can I hunt down and kill these individuals without government interference? Can ranchers on the border shoot individuals for crossing their property uninvited? Can states hunt down and kill these individuals as they cross their borders if the citizens of their states agree on it?
What say you? You seem to think that child sex trafficking is only popular because it's illegal. Well, duh! You don't think it should be?

I'm saying that smuggling people who aren't child sex slaves makes the perfect cover for smuggling child sex slaves. As for private property owners enforcing their rights, minus the killing I'm not against that.

[jmdrake]

Neither is an end to welfare. But, you seem to advocate for open borders regardless.

You can't read. I said I'm ambivelent about immigration. I just don't buy into your mindless fearmongering.

[jmdrake]

"right wing" El Salvador?



We won't welcome any of them with open arms, they are all far more communist than the US.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...0305-0012.html
El Salvador: Right-Wing ARENA Set to Keep Majority in Assembly

[jmdrake]

Not hearing about it doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

I didn't say it wasn't happening at all. But it wasn't as widespread. Common sense. You seem to be lacking it.

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...0305-0012.html
El Salvador: Right-Wing ARENA Set to Keep Majority in Assembly

"right wing" is relative and is used for many socialists all over the world.

[phill4paul]

I'm saying that smuggling people who aren't child sex slaves makes the perfect cover for smuggling child sex slaves. As for private property owners enforcing their rights, minus the killing I'm not against that.

So if there is no smuggling, because of border policy, there will not be child sex slaves. If there are open borders then the sex slave smugglers simply won't do it? What kinda $#@!ed up logic is that. Have you thought this through or are you just shooting off the hip because you think open borders solves all ills?

[jmdrake]

So if there is no smuggling, because of border policy, there will not be child sex slaves.

Seriously are your logic circuits broken? I didn't say there would be no child sex slaves. There are child sex slaves that are U.S. born. The simple point that I am making, which you are being purposely too stupid to understand (I don't think you are actually that stupid) is that the current smuggling bonanza makes great cover for sex slave smuggling. If a coyote gets caught he has a great story. "I was just trying to help this kid find a better life."

[phill4paul]

You can't read. I said I'm ambivelent about immigration. I just don't buy into your mindless fearmongering.

Fear mongering. A 13 year old girl that was smuggled over the border is being drugged up and raped tonight. Her parents were told that she could be brought through for a price. They paid it. She is most likely being passed around within the community of other foreign trespassers that live here now and can afford her pimps rate. More than likely national born degenerates. How smug are you with that?

[jmdrake]

"right wing" is relative and is used for many socialists all over the world.

Well Donald Trump supported an assault weapons ban before he was against it and he supported government healthcare and yet he is considered right wing so I guess you are right.