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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I detest Welfare in any and all forms. I believe in the right to travel freely as a God given (not Fed-given) right. I firmly believe in my signature which is the bed-rock of all others rights. I have been on this forum long enough for you to know that.
Why you guys keep trying to come at me for what this out of control government is doing to all of us I have no clue why.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
____________
An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Rather than to advocate keeping Welfare/Incentives and closing the border, and in light of the MIC/DHS/TSA plan to implement biometric ID here in the make believe "Land of the Free Home of the Brave" (I have several threads on it) I am advocating that we get down to the root of the problem and call for an end to Welfare/Incentives.
I know that is not the populist attitude around this RPF, but somebody has to make a solid stand for freedom, liberty and fiscal responsibility.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
I don’t know that anyone here disagrees about ending the welfare state.
Your disagreements with people seem to center on immigration. Thus the logic of the statement in the image you posted would mean that you do not support open borders until the welfare state is ended. That has been a very common position among libertarians for a long time.
You are being evasive, so either you changed your mind, as many seem to have done, or you were just throwing that out there when you originally posted that (on the Daily Paul, I assume).
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
I am tired of explaining my solid position on this forum and having a few select others continuously twist and/or put words into my mouth, over and over again. For passers by visiting this forum, I do not want the wrong impression taken about me, since I am still politically active. That, I understand, comes with the territory.
I was very well grounded back before and into the Daily Paul days. Since those days, bills and information came to light, which enabled me to see the bigger picture of what this government is trying to do in order to grow itself and fund the special interest. Perhaps back in those days I had hoped to see a positive change in government, but since then have come to the conclusion that the government has grown so large and powerful, the only way to overcome it is for people en mass to come to a discovery, one of which Ron Paul and others, including me, are trying to do.
Government solutions to government created problems ALWAYS leads to growth of government.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
A property tax increase or decrease should be voted solely by property owners
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
If you truly wish to live out the rest of your life in hell, I can arrange that.
You know as well as I do the end of America will not mean a better world, in any way.
Deep down you know it is true.
But know that your damnation will see America continue on.
With or without your help. Because your help does not count for anything.
And America continuing on, will compound your agony. America will exist when you draw your last breath.
I can assure you of that, because America has my help.
In fact, everything you do in life is counterproductive to your aims.
Because you actually have no clue what your aims are.
You think you do. But you have no idea what happiness is.
Is it Pussy? Paper? Poetry?
No it's purpose.
All this time on this planet, and still no purpose.
It isn't America keeping you from finding your purpose.
It's laziness.
Politics can not keep a man from finding his purpose, only laziness can.
Prison, can not keep a man from finding his purpose, only laziness can.
Posting on these forums is leisure, disguised as purpose.
Are you changing anything by posting here? Do you really believe that?
Resist me? Go ahead. Go ahead and try to tell me your are doing one iota of good by posting here.
Let's hear your excuses for your laziness, and why you are here, typing out useless words, and not fulfilling your purpose.
A purpose, mind you, you clearly have not even started, in your entire life, except maybe one or two half-assed attempts, before you determined it was too hard or impossible.
(P.S. your purpose is clearly not politics, you suck at it)
Last edited by UWDude; 07-11-2019 at 01:04 AM.
Wonder how many of Illinois's problems would go away if Cook County didn't exist.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
Dude- I was NOT making fun of you- I was reminding you- and everyone- of Wallace's importance & what he did.
And Wallace was not fighting "immigration". He was fighting the Empire of the day taking his country. Today's Empire is doing the same damn thing but if people resist, we call them communists /socialists & employ coups & total take-overs of their countries & resources. The Anti-Feds were right on. The same PTB have also ripped the original CONstitution to shreds while slowly enslaving the people so they accept it & think they are free.
Immigration is NOT the problem- it is a ruse to keep your eye off the mark. Ironic how everyone here talks continually about the Deep State etc but still blames them dirty immigrants on any problem. A perfect example is this thread- how property taxes are now the fault of immigrants.
It is not.
It is the fault of Americans believing everything they're taught & told & never coming to a full understanding of what true freedom really means and what their personal responsibility is in keeping it. It's so much easier to point the finger at someone who doesn't look like you & blame them.
Of course, hate & division is also part of this planned ruse. We see it all over this forum.
All the insults, name-calling, & finger-pointing at someone who doesn't agree on a subject, no matter how small or insignificant is mind-blowing. And every single issue goes back to immigration for a few of the biggest insulters. Creating division seems to be part of their ideology.
And, of course there will be the regulars jumping in to scream that I- and anyone who believes in true freedom are open-border advocates- and take the subject of this post right back to the hate & division category.
For the record- and zillionth time:
I believe in free travel but absolutely no incentives- people should be able to come & work or spend money, but NO free stuff or privileges, a reasonable path to citizenship, and REAL capitalism & free enterprise. End the WoD & WoT, bring the military home, and mind our own business.
There is no spoon.
I know...I just wanted to have you chime in here.
But the bottom line remains that Wallace fought to free Scotland from outside invaders, for the purpose of creating something the Scots had never had: a nation and home for themselves.
What we are seeing at the border right now is an invasion: a well organized attack, using people, armed with nothing but the ability to use our our sense of pity and "Christian" charity against us, to seize and occupy us.
If it were Welsh longbowmen or Panzer tanks rolling across the border, people would recognize the threat, and (almost) to a man respond, vigorously.
But it's not, and that is WHY the PTB use dirt poor peasants as the latest weapon.
Deadly effective and cheap as hell.
I never said that. What I said was, the situation will not be improved by bringing millions more who support the ideas that that got us into this mess into the country.Immigration is NOT the problem- it is a ruse to keep your eye off the mark. Ironic how everyone here talks continually about the Deep State etc but still blames them dirty immigrants on any problem. A perfect example is this thread- how property taxes are now the fault of immigrants.
And it will not. You know it as well as I do.
Exhibit A: California, where the Bolshevik Super Majorities, put into power by the migrant hordes that have started to vote have now approved "free" healthcare for illegal migrant invaders.
The two are separate issues. My understanding of the migrant invasion and my opposition to it take two forms, the one right now short term: cease all immigration from anywhere, so we can sort $#@! out. That junkie $#@! from Trashcanistan that killed all my brother riders up in NH looks just like me (a Caucasian of western European stock). I want him thrown the $#@! out of my country as well.It is the fault of Americans believing everything they're taught & told & never coming to a full understanding of what true freedom really means and what their personal responsibility is in keeping it. It's so much easier to point the finger at someone who doesn't look like you & blame them.
I don't see hate here, or at least not from me, directed towards other freedom folks like you.Of course, hate & division is also part of this planned ruse. We see it all over this forum.
All the insults, name-calling, & finger-pointing at someone who doesn't agree on a subject, no matter how small or insignificant is mind-blowing. And every single issue goes back to immigration for a few of the biggest insulters. Creating division seems to be part of their ideology.
And, of course there will be the regulars jumping in to scream that I- and anyone who believes in true freedom are open-border advocates- and take the subject of this post right back to the hate & division category.
I see plenty of hate directed at me from the New Bolsheviks.
That's why I have taken a defensive posture...I am not kidding, these people, were they to come into a great deal of power (which is just sitting there to be picked up, thanks to the expansion of the police state) would kill me.
And I reply, for the zillionth time:For the record- and zillionth time:
I believe in free travel but absolutely no incentives- people should be able to come & work or spend money, but NO free stuff or privileges, a reasonable path to citizenship, and REAL capitalism & free enterprise. End the WoD & WoT, bring the military home, and mind our own business.
You will NEVER achieve that if you continue to allow millions who are opposed those ideas into the country on top of the millions already here that are opposed to it.
All you're going to get, at best, is a failed narco state like Mexico with all its corruption, misery and a murder rate three times what ours is.
At worst, you'll get a Rwandan or Cambodian style genocide.
If the ship is sinking, you start the pumps AND patch the hole.
Both...not one or the other...to do that, or even worse, nothing at all, ensures you will sink.
“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
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