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[PAF]

They are illegal invaders because they are violating our laws about who is allowed to come here and how.

So then they did have their day in court, faced their accuser, and found guilty in a court of law.

Thanks ;-)

I just wanted to make sure the Bill of Rights were applied.

[Swordsmyth]

So then they did have their day in court, faced their accuser, and found guilty in a court of law.

Thanks ;-)

I just wanted to make sure the Bill of Rights were applied.

That has nothing to do with it, a robber is a robber before he is caught and tried, "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal fiction to protect those who are not the actual robber.

[PAF]

That has nothing to do with it, a robber is a robber before he is caught and tried, "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal fiction to protect those who are not the actual robber.

I see. It’s really guilty until innocent then, which this government is trying to tell us. Now I understand.

[Swordsmyth]

I see. It’s really guilty until innocent then, which this government is trying to tell us. Now I understand.

No, guilty people are guilty and innocent people are innocent, the government can't tell which is which without a trial but whoever committed the crime is guilty the moment they commit it.

Are you really this stupid or is it an act you put on when the truth is not on your side?

[PAF]

No, guilty people are guilty and innocent people are innocent, the government can't tell which is which without a trial but whoever committed the crime is guilty the moment they commit it.

Are you really this stupid or is it an act you put on when the truth is not on your side?

To continue this ridiculous conversation where you keep putting your foot in your mouth? Yes, it’s time for shut-eye so I can work to pay my own way - and the government.

[Swordsmyth]

The country owns its territory and has a right to say who is allowed to enter it, the founders understood that well:

Article 1

Section 9. TheMigration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight


https://www.constitution.org/cmt/law_of_nations.htm

The meaning of "Offenses against the Law of Nations"

Art. I Sec. 8 Cl. 10 of the Constitution for the United States delegates the power to Congress to "define and punish ... Offenses against the Law of Nations". It is important to understand what is and is not included in the term of art "law of nations", and not confuse it with "international law". They are not the same thing. The phrase "law of nations" is a direct translation of the Latin jus gentium, which means the underlying principles of right and justice among nations, and during the founding era was not considered the same as the "laws", that is, the body of treaties and conventions between nations, the jus inter gentes, which, combined with jus gentium, comprise the field of "international law". The distinction goes back to ancient Roman Law.

Briefly, the Law of Nations at the point of ratification in 1788 included the following general elements, taken from Blackstone's Commentaries, and prosecution of those who might violate them:

(1) No attacks on foreign nations, their citizens, or shipping, without either a declaration of war or letters of marque and reprisal.

(2) Honoring of the flag of truce, peace treaties, and boundary treaties. No entry across national borders without permission of national authorities.

(3) Protection of wrecked ships, their passengers and crew, and their cargo, from depredation by those who might find them.

(4) Prosecution of piracy by whomever might be able to capture the pirates, even if those making the capture or their nations had not been victims.

(5) Care and decent treatment of prisoners of war.

(6) Protection of foreign embassies, ambassadors, and diplomats, and of foreign ships and their passengers, crew, and cargo while in domestic waters or in port.

(7) Honoring of extradition treaties for criminals who committed crimes in a nation with whom one has such a treaty who escape to one's territory or are found on the high seas established with all nations in 1788,

(8) Prohibition of enslavement of foreign nationals and international trading in slaves.

@PAF did you miss this?
Are you going to admit that the founders intended for the state and federal governments to control immigration?

[Swordsmyth]

To continue this ridiculous conversation where you keep putting your foot in your mouth? Yes, it’s time for shut-eye so I can work to pay my own way - and the government.

LOL, you are the one who keeps putting your foot in your mouth.