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    California is poised to become the first state to offer full health coverage to illegals

    The proposal — which would build on Gov. Jerry Brown’s 2015 decision to extend health coverage to all children, regardless of immigration status — is one of the most daring examples yet of blue-state Democrats thumbing their nose at President Donald Trump as they pursue diametrically opposed policies, whether on immigration, climate change, legalized marijuana or health care.



    “California has never waited for the federal government, or for a political climate, to be able to take leadership on a whole host of issues,” state Sen. Ricardo Lara, author of the state Senate bill to extend Medicaid coverage to all adults, told POLITICO.

    The annual price tag to expand Medicaid benefits to poor adult immigrants without legal status is projected at $3 billion annually. Some also worry that extending health coverage could make California a magnet for undocumented immigrants from other states.

    More at: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-598037
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    "Some also worry that extending health coverage could make California a magnet for illegal undocumented immigrants from other states."

    Please pass this bill!
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    Can you be discriminated in your own country? Illegals paying less for insurance than citizens?

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    CALexit.
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    could make California a magnet for undocumented immigrants from other states.
    Yes, please, CA, pass this bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Can you be discriminated in your own country? Illegals paying less for insurance than citizens?
    Less, hmmm. No company can compete with "Free". Unrelated to this topic but this is also why AID provided to other countries can cause negative consequences on entire regions. Imagine for a second a person in another country tries to sell shoes they make themselves. Then, the US comes in and offers everyone free shoes. That person trying to make shoes just went out of business because he cant afford to compete with FREE. They all might get one pair of shoes, but the long term effect is their own local businesses were disrupted and destroyed because of interference. If we do provide any sort of aid, it needs to be temporary and limited in its scope and scale.

    California is a prime example of how a serpent eats its own tail. No insurance company can compete with Free. Again, the solution is to get govt out of the situation as it is causing more consequences than it is fixing.

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    Why do spokespeople for this kind of thing always have Hispanish names?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    Why do spokespeople for this kind of thing always have Hispanish names?
    One word: Reconquista.
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    So they just want to codify the existing reality? Illegal immigrants already get free healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    So they just want to codify the existing reality? Illegal immigrants already get free healthcare.
    If they codify it they can expand what they give them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Can you be discriminated in your own country? Illegals paying less for insurance than citizens?
    we haven't seen anything. This is going to be a mess.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Cloward–Piven strategy
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    ... and end of poverty, for whom?
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    California is one step closer to expanding Medicaid for illegal immigrants in the state, with legislation from both chambers of the legislature that could reach Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown’s desk.
    The California State Assembly last week passed a measure that would expand a current program, introduced in 2015 by Brown, which provided Medi-Cal coverage for undocumented minors under the age of 19. The new legislation, introduced by Democratic State Assemblymember Dr. Joaquin Arambula, expands that program to cover undocumented young adults up to age 26.
    “The Medi-Cal program is, in part, governed and funded by federal Medicaid program provisions,” the Assembly bill read. “The federal Medicaid program prohibits payment to a state for medical assistance furnished to an alien who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence or otherwise permanently residing in the United States under color of law.”
    Arambula’s bill was initially slated to cover all undocumented adults, but was amended to expand coverage to just young adults under 26 years of age. That bill is expected to be considered in the California State Senate.
    “This bill would extend eligibility for full-scope Medi-Cal benefits to individuals who are under 26 years of age and who are otherwise eligible for those benefits but for their immigration status,” the bill reads.


    On the other side of the Capitol, California state Sen. Ricardo Lara introduced similar legislation. This bill would cover undocumented minors up to the age of 19, and would expand the program to cover undocumented adults 65 years and older. Lara’s bill also was originally written to cover all undocumented adults, but was amended in Senate appropriations, according to a California state legislature source.
    An aide in Arambula’s office told Fox News that the assemblymember’s bill was separate from Lara’s, but that both technically can pass and reach the governor’s desk.

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...mmigrants.html
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    "...and funded by federal Medicaid program provisions."


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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Cloward–Piven strategy
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    ... and end of poverty, for whom?
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    End the free stuff & immigration would fix itself.

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    Are they intentionally accelerating the destruction of their state? Sometimes you have to wonder....

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    Very kewl. Hope they have enough money left over for water.
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    Can't handle current outlays to the state budget, but wants to add more with medical care for illegals? You couldn't make this madness up if you tried.

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    Build the CalWall now . I will chip in .
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