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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Synthetic B12 is cyanocobalamin which does not absorb well and really isn't bioavailable.
    My body has no problem absorbing it. If you want to spend more money on that other type of B12 that will do the exact same, that's your choice.



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  3. #152
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Grass?
    yeah grass. are you feeling ok?



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    yeah grass. are you feeling ok?
    Does kale have Vitamin D?

  6. #154
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Does kale have Vitamin D?
    I would like to think it does even those its not listed usually in its makeup.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    I would like to think it does even those its not listed usually in its makeup.
    Can you provide me a link that shows grass has Vitamin D? Because I never heard that one before.

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    My body has no problem absorbing it. If you want to spend more money on that other type of B12 that will do the exact same, that's your choice.
    Have you had your blood tested for you B12 levels?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  9. #157
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Can you provide me a link that shows grass has Vitamin D? Because I never heard that one before.
    http://www.admani.com/Dairy/Technica...0Nutrition.htm

    Vitamin D
    Many compounds possess vitamin D activity, but only vitamin D2 (plant derived) and D3 (animal derived) are important dietary sources. Sun-cured forages tend to be good sources of vitamin D; however, there are large variations in vitamin D content of forages and vitamin D deteriorates over time in storage. Sunlight or ultraviolet light is needed for the animal to convert both vitamin D2 and D3 to their active form. Vitamin D3 is used more efficiently by dairy cattle. Prior to performing its function, vitamin D must be converted to a much more active form (four to five times more active) by the liver and kidneys.

  10. #158
    I take B-12 shots and vitamin D. They've really helped me feel good.
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  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Have you had your blood tested for you B12 levels?
    Yes. It's almost at 600.

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Yes. It's almost at 600.

    Wow impressive since normal levels should be around 500 pg/ml.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    I'm thinking they wrote that wrong because plants don't have D. They have precursor nutrients that's then activated by the sun, or else all leafy greens would have D.

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Wow impressive since normal levels should be around 500 pg/ml.
    Thank you. Cheap synthetic cyano B12 is what I take.

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Does everyone at least agree that the modern paleo diet should not be called paleo, primal, or caveman since we didn't eat like that back then?

    I suggest calling it the Low Omega-6 diet. At least that would be accurate.
    bump

  17. #164
    Body builders aren't "natural" anyways- vegan or not. They aren't eating diets one can sustain oneself on for a long period of time.

    All that protein for one is very hard on the kidneys and liver.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-09-2016 at 12:27 PM.

  18. #165
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    I'm thinking they wrote that wrong because plants don't have D. They have precursor nutrients that's then activated by the sun, or else all leafy greens would have D.
    It would be my guess that leafy greens do have vitamin d.

    Theyve done studies on fish and their vitamin d
    levels.. fished raised in darkness have the same level of vitamin d as fish raised with sunlight. Theyre getting their D from their sun-exposed algae/vegetation they eat.

    Over 950 types of vitamin d out there... its a damned shame that people only think of. Vitamin D3 cholecalciferol as vitamin d.
    Last edited by Chester Copperpot; 03-08-2016 at 09:15 PM.

  19. #166
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Thank you. Cheap synthetic cyano B12 is what I take.
    Ill stick with sardines.

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Body builders aren't "natural" anyways- vegan or not. They aren't eating diets one can sustain oneself on for a long period of time.
    Gotta admit you're right on this. Bodybuilders typically eat 5+ meals per day on top of protein supplements, lots of water, and a number of other supplementary things. (one of the reasons I don't get into the bodybuilding sport :P )
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  21. #168
    Sooooo, does everyone at least agree that the modern paleo diet should not be called paleo, primal, or caveman since we didn't eat like that back then?



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Sooooo, does everyone at least agree that the modern paleo diet should not be called paleo, primal, or caveman since we didn't eat like that back then?
    Is this the argument you are reduced to? Sad really...

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Is this the argument you are reduced to? Sad really...
    "does everyone at least agree that the"

    So do you?

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    "does everyone at least agree that the"

    So do you?
    Not really. At least for the primal blueprint, what you eat is just a portion of it. Besides, to be honest I don't really focus on the labels and I don't really care what you call it.

  26. #172
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Sooooo, does everyone at least agree that the modern paleo diet should not be called paleo, primal, or caveman since we didn't eat like that back then?
    i think thats like trying to get into an exact definition of libertarianism... everybody kinda has their own idea.

  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Not really. At least for the primal blueprint, what you eat is just a portion of it. Besides, to be honest I don't really focus on the labels and I don't really care what you call it.
    The primal blueprint is a meat-based diet. How can you say "not really"?

    You don't mind people calling themselves libertarian when they aren't? Same thing.

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    i think thats like trying to get into an exact definition of libertarianism... everybody kinda has their own idea.
    If you look at any paleo/primal/caveman diet site, they list meat as the staple of the diet. Do you disagree with that?

  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    The primal blueprint is a meat-based diet. How can you say "not really"?
    You have been corrected on that point before; so I'll just assume you aren't actually here to listen to what others have to say. It is perfectly possible to follow the primal blueprint and not eat meat.

    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    You don't mind people calling themselves libertarian when they aren't? Same thing.
    Why should I give a $#@! what people call themselves? It doesn't affect me in anyway. Its pathetic that you care.

  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    You have been corrected on that point before; so I'll just assume you aren't actually here to listen to what others have to say. It is perfectly possible to follow the primal blueprint and not eat meat.
    Here's the primal blueprint:


    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

    How is it possible to sustain yourself on it if you wipe out the bottom row?


    Why should I give a $#@! what people call themselves? It doesn't affect me in anyway. Its pathetic that you care.
    Then why are you here at a forum that cares? You act childish.



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  32. #177
    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    If you look at any paleo/primal/caveman diet site, they list meat as the staple of the diet. Do you disagree with that?
    the issue isnt what a particular site says, its what people all over say.. and people all over use different interpretations and explanations for various labels.

    people cannot agree on what paleo, primal, libertarian or conservative means because these things are subjective. there are probably paleo vegans out there who just eat raw fruits and vegetables... im not so sure why you dont understand this..

    Durianrider for example follows a paleo diet.

  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Here's the primal blueprint:
    How is it possible to sustain yourself on it if you wipe out the bottom row?
    Because that graphic is just a super simple example, its not detailed. If you actually read up on it, you'd know what I'm saying is factual.

    Quote Originally Posted by farreri View Post
    Then why are you here at a forum that cares? You act childish.
    This forum does not care what people call themselves. And most of the people here probably don't give a $#@! either.

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    the issue isnt what a particular site says, its what people all over say.. and people all over use different interpretations and explanations for various labels.

    people cannot agree on what paleo, primal, libertarian or conservative means because these things are subjective. there are probably paleo vegans out there who just eat raw fruits and vegetables... im not so sure why you dont understand this..
    All the paleo/primal/caveman diet sites are very specific; low carb meat-based, getting most of your calories from fat and protein. It's not very subjective at all.

    Durianrider for example follows a paleo diet.
    That's true, because the real paleo diet is high carb fruit-based. My thread is about the modern "paleo" diet and how it's factually wrong and unhealthy longterm. Maybe those following or sorta following it are in denial about that.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Because that graphic is just a super simple example, its not detailed. If you actually read up on it, you'd know what I'm saying is factual.
    What about that primal blueprint graph from the primal blueprint website is omitting that makes it not what the graph indicates?

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