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Thread: $100 carbon tax by 2030 could save climate, say economists

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    $100 carbon tax by 2030 could save climate, say economists

    Economists say countries should ramp up the price of carbon emissions to as much as $100 per metric ton by 2030 to stop catastrophic global warming.




    Experts including Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz and former World Bank chief economist Nicholas Stern say carbon dioxide should be taxed at $40-$80 per ton by 2020.
    They say prices should rise to $50-$100 by 2030 to give businesses and governments an incentive to lower emissions even when fossil fuels are cheap.
    In a report published Monday, they suggest poor countries could aim for a lower tax since their economies are more vulnerable.


    Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-05-carbon...mists.html#jCp
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    Let's tax life to feed our pathetic economy.

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    I will not pay .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Let's tax life to feed our pathetic economy.
    I thought taxes starved economies. Taxes feed govt and bureaucrats(their economy), not the general economies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I thought taxes starved economies. Taxes feed govt and bureaucrats(their economy), not the general economies.
    Don't feed the cancer!

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    Breaking News
    BREAKING: USA withdraws from Paris climate agreement
    http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...ris-agreement/

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Breaking News
    BREAKING: USA withdraws from Paris climate agreement
    http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...ris-agreement/
    USA withdraws from the CC circlejerk. Most everybody decides also to stop pretending and the circlejerk disintegrates in the next few weeks as the excitement of making big money is gone. Life returns to normal. The quest for finding the next big sucker continues.

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    Just who is it that collects and spends such taxes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Just who is it that collects and spends such taxes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Just who is it that collects and spends such taxes?
    And what is it used for exactly? freeing up more money to enable the state to fight more wars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    And what is it used for exactly? freeing up more money to enable the state to fight more wars?
    This is about creating a shadow economy, totally disconnected from human activity. The AI could be trading carbon taxes based derivatives forever. This will also look great on the reports we submit to the office of Baphomet as they have been getting impatient lately.

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    How about we round up all the climate hoaxsters and charge them with extortion and racketeering?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    How about we round up all the climate hoaxsters and charge them with extortion and racketeering?
    There is no law against trolling. It is your fault for falling for such a simple con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    There is no law against trolling. It is your fault for falling for such a simple con.
    A simple con perpetuated by globalists and their lackey's. They need to be exposed now! Trump backing us out is one small victory.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    How about we round up all the climate hoaxsters and charge them with extortion and racketeering?
    Just compost 'em.......Kourts feed the cancer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Breaking News
    BREAKING: USA withdraws from Paris climate agreement
    http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...ris-agreement/
    Probably, but not officially yet. Also to note: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40108659

    The agreement stipulates a three-year waiting period before a country can give notice of leaving, which adds another 12 months and brings us to June 2021.

    It could be that President Trump will be out of office before the US would be out of the deal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It could be that President Trump will be out of office before the US would be out of the deal.
    Yeah, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Probably, but not officially yet. Also to note: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40108659
    But you see, there is no agreement, if congress didn't authorize it.

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    Why Climate Change Is A Women's Issue

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-clima...192533458.html



    Multiple news outlets are now reporting that President Donald Trump is set to withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Accord, the landmark pact to reduce global warming.
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    Multiple news outlets are now reporting that President Donald Trump is set to withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Accord, the landmark pact to reduce global warming.
    While environmentalists are warning that is very bad news for many reasons, bringing the world far closer to the “danger limit” where extreme conditions become the norm, it could be particularly harmful to women around the world. Here’s why:
    Women are more likely to live in poverty.
    Women make up the majority of the world’s poor, and that simple fact means they are more vulnerable to the effects of climate change ― particularly if they live in rural areas. That’s because women tend to be responsible for securing water, food and energy for cooking, and the effects of climate change ― namely drought and/or uncertain rainfall ― make that process and responsibility all the much more onerous for them.
    “In almost all disasters, women bear the brunt more than men. Anytime there are mass movements, which is what happens when you have famine, floods, fires and other disasters, women are more vulnerable, women end up doing much of the physical labor of gathering and preparing food, fuel and water,” Dr. Richard Jackson, a professor at the Fielding School of Public Health at the University of California, Los Angeles, told HuffPost.
    “Climate change very much visits its greatest impact on the poor worldwide,” he added. “Wealthy people can move. Wealthy people during Hurricane Katrina could get in their cars and drive off. It’s always the poor that bear the biggest brunt of any kind of threat or disaster.”
    When natural resources disappear, women are less likely to get an education.
    When biodiversity declines and fresh water sources disappear as a result of climate change, it is often women world-wide who have to attempt to pick up the pieces. And that means that in some communities, they must dedicate a significant portion of their day to finding clean water or collecting wood the UN says ― time they might otherwise have spent getting an education.
    “Girls are sometimes kept home from school to help gather fuel, perpetuating the cycle of disempowerment,” the group says, showing just how many ways climate change touches on women’s lives.
    They are also more likely to die from natural disasters.
    A startling 2007 study found that women are much more likely than men to be killed in natural disasters, and that natural disasters also lower the life expectancy of women more than men. The reasons for that are complex: partly, it’s because of biological, physiological differences. So pregnant women, for example, are less likely to be able to rescue themselves in a natural disaster. But cultural and social norms play a bigger role, the study’s authors argue. Women may be more likely to look after relatives or to the home during an emergency, which means they do not put themselves first. They point to other research that suggests that even wearing traditional clothing, like a sari, has been known to put women at greater risk, because it impedes their movement.
    Not only that, but when social order breaks down as it sometimes does after natural disasters, women and children are the ones who are most vulnerable to things like rape and abuse, Jackson said.
    “When social order breaks down and people become out of control, the most vulnerable and the weakest are the ones that suffer the most,” he said.
    Pregnancy can make women particularly vulnerable.
    First and foremost, pregnant women are more likely to be affected by extreme heat events, like heat waves or long, extended hot seasons, Jackson said.
    But climate change can have an affect on pregnant women in other ways, too. For example, it is looking increasingly likely that climate change may have helped drive the spread of Zika, the virus that can cause birth defects and possibly miscarriage, too. And climate change can exacerbate environmental problems that put pregnant women at risk.
    “Air pollutants can cause respiratory illness in pregnant women and also lead to low birth weight or pre-term birth,” a fact sheet from Carnegie Mellon University explains. “Climate change worsens air quality because warming temperatures make it easier for ground-level ozone to form.”
    Saving the planet is quite literally in everyone’s best inerest, but it’s worth remembering that it’s often those who are already most vulnerable who are impacted first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    But you see, there is no agreement, if congress didn't authorize it.
    But we did.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40108659

    To date, 147 out of the 197 countries have ratified the accord, including the US, where the accord entered into force last November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Did you even read the link you posted. Here is an excerpt....

    Alternatively he could declare that the agreement is a treaty which in US law needs approval by the Senate. It's likely that the Republican majority in the chamber would mean the end of the road for Paris.
    The president can not unilaterally enter into a treaty. The Senate needs to approve of it if it has any standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Did you even read the link you posted. Here is an excerpt....



    The president can not unilaterally enter into a treaty. The Senate needs to approve of it if it has any standing.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whit...eement-n766761

    Trump also can't technically withdraw from the agreement until November 2019. It's possible he could speed things up by abandoning the underlying Senate-approved climate treaty that the agreement is linked to.
    Senate would have to concur if he tries to go that way.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ange-agreement

    Should the US exit from the Paris agreement, which was negotiated and ratified under Barack Obama, the country would join only Syria and Nicaragua as non-participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Well, perhaps I'm wrong....

    Let's watch and see what happens.



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    Global cooling, global warming, and now global "climate change" has only ever been for one purpose. Nothing to do with climate, it is to establish a global tax. And like the income tax, it will likely start relatively small so as to be considered "no big deal" and likely would be argued as such by it's tree-hugger "useful idiots". Yet Algore has said he would need $15 TRILLION to save the world. So if it ever passes and taxes are actually in place, it will take no further treaty, just watch the panic get stoked and the taxes go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    Global cooling, global warming, and now global "climate change" has only ever been for one purpose. Nothing to do with climate, it is to establish a global tax. And like the income tax, it will likely start relatively small so as to be considered "no big deal" and likely would be argued as such by it's tree-hugger "useful idiots". Yet Algore has said he would need $15 TRILLION to save the world. So if it ever passes and taxes are actually in place, it will take no further treaty, just watch the panic get stoked and the taxes go up.
    $15T? This is such a small price to pay for our safety. Can't you agree with us? It's just money we are talking about.

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    Russia to decide whether to ratify Paris Agreement after completing evaluation of its effects on economy by end of 2017 - minister
    Interfax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    Global cooling, global warming, and now global "climate change" has only ever been for one purpose. Nothing to do with climate, it is to establish a global tax. And like the income tax, it will likely start relatively small so as to be considered "no big deal" and likely would be argued as such by it's tree-hugger "useful idiots". Yet Algore has said he would need $15 TRILLION to save the world. So if it ever passes and taxes are actually in place, it will take no further treaty, just watch the panic get stoked and the taxes go up.
    Fwiw, I do think there are changes ongoing in the climate. I don't think it has anything to do with cars and the like though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I will not pay .
    Oh, you'll pay... you'll so pay...
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    Gaia tax.
    Mandated sacrifice to Gaia for a prosperous future.
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