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    U.S. Vows to Reduce Iraq Troop Presence

    The United States said Thursday it would reduce troops in Iraq in the coming months as friction between the two countries eased under a new US-friendly premier in Baghdad.

    In a joint statement, the United States said that the reason for its military’s return to Iraq in 2014 — defeating extremists from the Islamic State group — had made major headway.
    “The two countries recognized that in light of significant progress towards eliminating the ISIS threat, over the coming months the US would continue reducing forces from Iraq,” a joint statement said.
    “The United States reiterated that it does not seek nor request permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq.”
    The coalition has already consolidated to just three bases in recent months, down from a dozen.

    More at: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-eas...over-a-decade/
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    The U.S. pointed out that they had already withdrawn half of their forces from Iraq since the start of the new year.

    Reuters reports Friday:

    Western military trainers are expected to remain in Iraq, but it is not clear how many. The United States has had around 5,000 troops stationed in the country, and coalition allies another 2,500.

    An earlier newsflash by Iraq’s state news agency cited Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi as saying there would be a total withdrawal of troops. The article was later removed.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ermanent-bases
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    Reduce troop presence in every country.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. Vows to Reduce Iraq Troop Presence
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Since he frequently contradicts himself his statements can't be trusted at all, you have to watch his actions to even guess about his positions or plans.

    Assuming such statements are not fakenews, can you give some recent examples where GOPA funded leader contradicted his vows/statements?


    More US troops heading to Syria, Iraq
    June 17, 2020
    2,200 paratroopers assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division’s 2nd Brigade Combat Team deploying to Iraq and Syria amid the coronavirus pandemic.

    Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel
    03/19/2018

    Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal




    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Reduce troop presence in every country.
    To be devil's advocate, should we leave our closest mideast allies high n dry in the face of growing Iranian/ISIS threats to them?

    Isolationism could be not just risky but might even be 'immoral' going by Israel Firster MAGA Firster digital media supporters of Democrats turned Republican leadership that is well funded by top donors (one of whom happens to be richest person in Israel).





    Pentagon deploys American troops in Israel

    March 10, 2019

    The Immorality of Leaving Iraq and Afghanistan
    By Dennis Prager
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/...dennis-prager/



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    Oh, well, if we vowed it this time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh, well, if we vowed it this time...
    ...we'll vow it next time, too. There will be some huge Middle East catastrophe and we'll need to send in more troops. Just as another temporary surge, you see.

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    It's happening in spite of the fools and backstabbers who try to undermine Trump, half of our troops have left since January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's happening in spite of the fools and backstabbers who try to undermine Trump, half of our troops have left since January.
    Half what troops?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    A feared resurgence of the Islamic State has not so far materialized in Iraq, paving the way for a further coalition troop drawdown, a US commander said Wednesday.Though IS may never be completely eradicated, the group has been significantly diminished from when it controlled swathes of Iraq and Syria just a few years ago, Major General Kenneth Ekman, deputy commander of coalition forces, told reporters.
    "What that has allowed us to do is to reduce our footprint here in Iraq," Ekman said, speaking from Baghdad.
    "I think over time, what you will see is a slow reduction of US forces," he added.

    Several military bases have already been turned over to Iraqi forces and a large training camp near Baghdad is to be handed to them on Saturday, he added.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-general-se...220837728.html
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    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    From the article:
    Paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team are also still in Kuwait following a no-notice deployment during the rapid increase in tensions between the United States and Iran in late December.

    Meanwhile, @Swordsmyth:
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Do you know what a unit rotation is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Do you know what a unit rotation is?
    I think it's when Trump deploys more troops to a warzone that he says we shouldn't be in, should have already left, and are going to leave.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think it's when Trump deploys more troops to a warzone that he says we shouldn't be in, should have already left, and are going to leave.
    Incorrect. It's when an equal amount of troops replace the ones who are already there, many of whom will eventually leave.
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Do you know what a unit rotation is?
    Yep. That means the troops are coming home right?
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined



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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Yep. That means the troops are coming home right?
    Yes, that means troops are coming home too. That's what rotation is.

    In the OP, we are celebrating troops coming home without being replaced. Is that not a good thing?
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Trump is pulling out of Iraq and we get the same old liars who have been educated about troop rotation and gradual withdrawal over and over coming back to spread FUD again, why does this make me think they want to replace the President who is leaving Iraq and Afghanistan with one who won't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Incorrect. It's when an equal amount of troops replace the ones who are already there, many of whom will eventually leave.
    Incorrect.

    "More troops" in this case refers to another year's worth of troops who were not deployed there prior to Trump sending them, and who would otherwise not be there if not for Trump's orders.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Incorrect.

    "More troops" in this case refers to another year's worth of troops who were not deployed there prior to Trump sending them, and who would otherwise not be there if not for Trump's orders.
    For a count you aren't very good at counting.
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    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    For a count you aren't very good at counting.
    But he's great at misleading.

    The numbers are going down and nobody said that we were going to leave overnight.

    When Trump tries to withdraw a large number at once Congress tries to stop him so the best way is to slowly reduce them until they are gone.
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    "I think over time, what you will see is a slow reduction of US forces," he added.
    Now that's a definitive statement if I've ever heard one.
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