Murder Rate Drops to 33-Year Low

[Krugminator2]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95379&page=1

Read another article saying that it is possible violent crime is the lowest since pre-prohibition. Also noteworthy, it is much easier to get a gun now than in the past. I don't think one has to do with the other but it would seem in a normal world gun control would be less of an issue given this data.

The U.S. murder rate last year hit the lowest level since 1966 as the number of serious crimes committed nationwide fell for the eighth year in a row, the FBI said today.In its 422-page report detailing final U.S. crime statistics for 1999, the FBI said the murder count stood at 15,533 last year, or one murder every 34 minutes.
The murder rate worked out to six murders for every 100,000 U.S. inhabitants, the lowest level since 1966 when there were 5.7 murders for every 100,000 people.
The overall violent crime rate sank to a 21-year low — 525 murders, rapes, robberies and assaults for every 100,000 residents. The last time the figure was lower — 498 in 1978 — came well before an epidemic of crack cocaine sent violent crime soaring in the mid-1980s.

[Anti Federalist]

In spite of leftist Bolsheviks running amok, an armed society IS a polite society.

[Danke]

Aren't cops' murder rates down too?

[Anti Federalist]

I don't think one has to do with the other but it would seem in a normal world gun control would be less of an issue given this data.

I disagree.

I think the more people armed and carrying those arms has made a clear, demonstrable and rapid impact in violent crime reduction.

[r3volution 3.0]

But, but, what about the beaner-pocalypse?

Weren't we were all supposed to get murdered and used as taco filling by the invading foreign hordes...?

[dannno]

Well, weed is practically legal in half the country now so..

[Anti Federalist]

Aren't cops' murder rates down too?

Steadily trending down.

https://www.odmp.org/

There is no "War On Cops", outside of the usual havens of diversity in NY and CA and FL and TX.

PS: Interesting to note that cops deaths by auto crashes has decreased significantly as more "no high speed chases allowed" rules were put in place.

[Anti Federalist]

But, but, what about the beaner-pocalypse?

Weren't we were all supposed to get murdered and used as taco filling by the invading foreign hordes...?

Amazing how it went down as we increased throwing them out.

[Swordsmyth]

But, but, what about the beaner-pocalypse?

Weren't we were all supposed to get murdered and used as taco filling by the invading foreign hordes...?

The illegals are still responsible for more than their fair share, they still need to go even if the murder rate drops 90% more.

And politics is still the main reason they need to go.

[r3volution 3.0]

Amazing how it went down as we increased throwing them out.

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[Swordsmyth]

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Nice try, we all know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

[r3volution 3.0]

Nice try, we all know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Yes, the one group puts in their visa applications before the quota is met; the other, afterwards.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, the one group puts in their visa applications before the quota is met; the other, afterwards.

One group follows the law and the other doesn't give a fig for it.

[r3volution 3.0]

One group follows the law and the other doesn't give a fig for it.

The immigration laws, as distinct from laws prohibiting real crimes, like murder.

[Swordsmyth]

The immigration laws, as distinct from laws prohibiting real crimes, like murder.

Most don't make that distinction.

[r3volution 3.0]

Most don't make that distinction.

Well, I guess you'd better pack up the potheads, jaywalkers, and other lawbreakers and ship them to Tijuana.

They break laws, therefore they will murder us all.

[Swordsmyth]

Well, I guess you'd better pack up the potheads, jaywalkers, and other lawbreakers and ship them to Tijuana.

They break laws, therefore they will murder us all.

We can't do that with citizens even if statistics did show that people like that commit more real crimes like they show about illegals, citizens have a right to be here and are innocent until proven guilty, illegals are also innocent until proven guilty but they are guilty of illegal entry and don't have a right to be here.

[r3volution 3.0]

We can't do that with citizens even if statistics did show that people like that commit more real crimes like they show about illegals, citizens have a right to be here and are innocent until proven guilty, illegals are also innocent until proven guilty but they are guilty of illegal entry and don't have a right to be here.

So, you are or aren't claiming that non-criminals like pot-smokers, jay-walkers, or border-crossers are more likely to commit violent crimes?

[jmdrake]

Amazing how it went down as we increased throwing them out.

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Nice try, we all know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Actually the illegal immigrant rate was also still going up while the murder rate was going down.

[Swordsmyth]

So, you are or aren't claiming that non-criminals like pot-smokers, jay-walkers, or border-crossers are more likely to commit violent crimes?

Border-crossers are, I haven't seen any studies that say that about jay-walkers or pot-smokers.

[r3volution 3.0]

Border-crossers are, I haven't seen any studies that say that about jay-walkers or pot-smokers.

Show me these studies about border-crossers.

*Note that Breitbart articles aren't studies.

[Swordsmyth]

Actually the illegal immigrant rate was also still going up while the murder rate was going down.

Just think how far the murder rate would have dropped without them.

[r3volution 3.0]

While you're looking for those studies, @Swordsmyth, here's some other data to ponder:



The darker colors represent higher murder rates.

As you can see, Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the country.

If we deported all Louisianans, the US murder rate would drop.

Therefore, we should deport all Louisianans. If you disagree, you want people to die.

...see if you can spot the flaw in this reasoning.

[TheTexan]

Aren't cops' murder rates down too?

Unfortunately, there's still no improvement in the number of cops that die to dog attacks each year.

It's still the same as it ever was.

[Swordsmyth]

Show me these studies about border-crossers.

*Note that Breitbart articles aren't studies.

I and others have posted them before, I get tired of posting the same things over and over again because you open borders cultists pretend not to remember anything you don't like.

[Swordsmyth]

While you're looking for those studies, @Swordsmyth, here's some other data to ponder:



The darker colors represent higher murder rates.

As you can see, Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the country.

If we deported all Louisianans, the US murder rate would drop.

Therefore, we should deport all Louisianans. If you disagree, you want people to die.

...see if you can spot the flaw in this reasoning.

The citizens of Louisiana have a right to be here.

[jmdrake]

Just think how far the murder rate would have dropped without them.

Well you support murder anyway as long as it's killing "illegals" so why are you bothered by a murder rate whatever it is?

[r3volution 3.0]

I and others have posted them before, I get tired of posting the same things over and over again because you open borders cultists pretend not to remember anything you don't like.

I remember lots of posts about imaginary Somali riots in Minnesota and the like.

Are those the ones you mean?

The citizens of Louisiana have a right to be here.

If we deported them, fewer people in the US would die.

Therefore, by opposing their deportation, you want more people in the US to die.

...however can you sleep at night.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

That's great. Now let's compare it with the 1950s. Or even the late 19th Century:

[Swordsmyth]

Well you support murder anyway as long as it's killing "illegals" so why are you bothered by a murder rate whatever it is?

Shooting invaders isn't murder no matter how many times you say it.