Results of my interview with Mel Watt's opponent Paul Johnson

[LittleLightShining]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

I not saying we can win the election, i'm saying we can cause watt pain.
you could run ads in his district illustrating his connection to the bankers- but what good will it do unless people know who else they could vote for-
that is why I see using a candidate as more beneficial than just an educational campaign in this particular area.

well, I'm going to disagree with you. I've been thinking about this an awful lot today and Gunny is right. Any money that could go toward this race would be much better spent funding candidates for NC state legislature. The districts need to be redrawn. I'm sticking by my point that no matter how much money "we" can send Johnson, it won't be enough to cause Watt any pain whatsoever. He'll just have to get more from his banking buddies. And they are not about to let him go underfunded seeing as he is a ranking member in the committee and chair of the monetary policy subcommittee. He will laugh at the little people who think they can hurt him.

This isn't personal. It's how I see it. And I'm not the only one.

[torchbearer]

Originally Posted by LittleLightShining

well, I'm going to disagree with you. I've been thinking about this an awful lot today and Gunny is right. Any money that could go toward this race would be much better spent funding candidates for NC state legislature. The districts need to be redrawn. I'm sticking by my point that no matter how much money "we" can send Johnson, it won't be enough to cause Watt any pain whatsoever. He'll just have to get more from his banking buddies. And they are not about to let him go underfunded seeing as he is a ranking member in the committee and chair of the monetary policy subcommittee. He will laugh at the little people who think they can hurt him.

This isn't personal. It's how I see it. And I'm not the only one.

Then I don't want to hear any of you bitching about Watt.
He is here to stay- without a fight.
Enjoy it.

[LittleLightShining]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

Then I don't want to hear any of you bitching about Watt.
He is here to stay- without a fight.
Enjoy it.

Reread Gunny's posts and see if you can get the reality of the situation through your head.

[torchbearer]

Originally Posted by LittleLightShining

Reread Gunny's posts and see if you can get the reality of the situation through your head.

Answer this question- Why would someone running for a state-level race advocate donating to a state level race?

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

Answer this question- Why would someone running for a state-level race advocate donating to a state level race?

Did you even read his post? The district is gerrymandered. It is 50% black and 80% Democrat. There is no way we are going to cause him pain, especially when he can get a million dollars no problem from the bankers. That money is better spent getting NCGOP elected to the GA so they can ungerrymander the district and in the next race in 2012 we can work to get him ousted.

Think of it in the free market terms. Putting money in that race is a misallocation of resources. Those resources are better used getting GOP in NC elected to Gen. Assembly so they can give us a shot in 2012.

This is the best course of action. Besides, States have more power than the Federal Government....

[torchbearer]

Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple

Did you even read his post? The district is gerrymandered. It is 50% black and 80% Democrat. There is no way we are going to cause him pain, especially when he can get a million dollars no problem from the bankers. That money is better spent getting NCGOP elected to the GA so they can ungerrymander the district and in the next race in 2012 we can work to get him ousted.

Think of it in the free market terms. Putting money in that race is a misallocation of resources. Those resources are better used getting GOP in NC elected to Gen. Assembly so they can give us a shot in 2012.

This is the best course of action. Besides, States have more power than the Federal Government....

I knew every single variable about this race prior to even speaking to Johnson.
These conversations were already discussed.
We have the ability to strike back at someone who is directly protecting the bankers.
If you don't think that will resonate with Black people- you may have some racial issues you need to think about.
We are all getting screwed. Watt is the face of the bankers. I don't care if his district is a thin-line of spaghetti and its 100% black and 100% democrat. The guy can be taken down.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

I knew every single variable about this race prior to even speaking to Johnson.
These conversation were already discussed.
We have the ability to strike back at someone who is directly protecting the bankers.
If you don't think that will resonate with Black people- you may have some racial issues you need to think about.
We are all getting screwed. Watt is the face of the bankers. I don't care if his district is a thin-line of spaghetti and its 100% black and 100% democrat. The guy can be taken down.

No racial issues. Blacks overwhelmingly vote for any Democrat. Go look over say, the past 100 races of a Black Democratic candidate. That's your choice, I'm just letting people know that I think it's a waste. If you're going to donate, donate to Republicans who have a shot at taking a seat and who support fair re-districting. Personally, all my money is going to Debra Medina.

[LittleLightShining]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

Answer this question- Why would someone running for a state-level race advocate donating to a state level race?

Ohhhh.... I see where you're going. Are you implying that Gunny is only talking about this because he wants donations for his campaign?

[torchbearer]

Originally Posted by LittleLightShining

Ohhhh.... I see where you're going. Are you implying that Gunny is only talking about this because he wants donations for his campaign?

It is his natural bias. Inherit in his decision to run for state house.
He obviously thinks that is the best route- so every dollar spent in NC that doesn't go to his race would be a waste. He has to see it that way or he isn't serious about winning his race.
This whole forum is full of candidates seeking dollars for their race. None of them really want more candidates to pull away from the few dollars they may get.

Any candidate who speaks on this subject is biased toward their campaign if they are serious about winning.

[LittleLightShining]

Originally Posted by torchbearer

It his natural bias. Inherit in his decision to run for state house.
He obviously thinks that is the best route- so every dollar spent in NC that doesn't go his race would be a waste. He has to see it that way or he isn't serious about winning his race.
This whole forum full of candidates seeking dollars for their race. None of them really want more candidates to pull away from the few dollars they may get.

Any candidate who speaks on this subject is biased toward their campaign if they are serious about winning.

You're still missing the point. But if you want to focus on side issues that's fine.

Why would some guy in Louisiana know more about the reality of politics in North Carolina than one of our own who has made up his mind to run for a seat in his state?

You are advocating for a huge waste of money that will have no effect on Watt whatsoever but to make him even more secure in his seat.

I applaud the initiative you took in trying to reach out to Johnson. We should be doing more of this. But dangling money in front of candidates running against our political enemies simply because they are our political enemies is a very flawed tactic. We can take this idea and start reaching out to other candidates to educate them on our issues.