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  1. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Here is some basic scrutiny for you:

    If he felt his life was in danger from the crowd (it was a violent mob attacking his car, before he hit anybody), then he had a right to try and get out of there and preserve his life. He is not in fact obligated to stay there and die from being attacked by a violent mob as you seem to believe. At first, after his car was attacked with a weapon before he hit anybody by following the car in front of him, and then when his car crashed, by reversing and trying to get out of there alive.
    There was no violent mob attacking his car. One of the videos it looked like 1 person swung something at the back of his car, occurring about 2 seconds before he shouted, according to you, "MUH LYFE!!" and decided to charge into a group of people and vehicles, that clearly extended well beyond the point of the initial collision, endangering his life far more than simply reversing and taking another route.



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  3. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    There was no violent mob attacking his car. One of the videos it looked like 1 person swung something at the back of his car, occurring about 2 seconds before he shouted, according to you, "MUH LYFE!!" and decided to charge into a group of people and vehicles, that clearly extended well beyond the point of the initial collision, endangering his life far more than simply reversing and taking another route.
    See, now you are just playing the leftist dumb$#@! role. That isn't going to convince anybody.

    We all saw the videos of violent antifa mobs going out to "Bash the Fash", they were throwing bags of feces, bags of urine, rocks, bricks, cement filled soda cans and they had all sorts of violent weapons and had several violent clashes already that day..

    So for you to say there was no violent mob just sounds retarded..

    He knew he might be driving into a violent mob, but he was trapped downtown and lost and didn't know how to get out.

    So, like I said, HE FOLLOWED ANOTHER $#@!ING CAR. That is not an unreasonable approach to take.

    He saw a big group of people, probably wasn't sure what side they were on until he got closer. But he kept following the car in front of him, figuring they would create room enough for him to follow them out. The other car got absorbed into the mob Homer style, and so when they started attacking his car (which, put a huge dent in his fender and if you have ever been in an accident of any type in a car you would know how loud and scary something like that would actually sound from inside the car), he got scared.

    In fact, he was so scared he $#@! his pants. That is how the police found him. If he was doing it on purpose, he probably wouldn't have $#@! his pants because he would have expected the outcome that occurred. Instead he likely did not expect that outcome, thus $#@!ting his pants.
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  4. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    See, now you are just playing the leftist dumb$#@! role. That isn't going to convince anybody.

    We all saw the videos of violent antifa mobs going out to "Bash the Fash", they were throwing bags of feces, bags of urine, rocks, bricks, cement filled soda cans and they had all sorts of violent weapons and had several violent clashes already that day..

    So for you to say there was no violent mob just sounds retarded..

    He knew he might be driving into a violent mob, but he was trapped downtown and lost and didn't know how to get out.

    So, like I said, HE FOLLOWED ANOTHER $#@!ING CAR. That is not an unreasonable approach to take.

    He saw a big group of people, probably wasn't sure what side they were on until he got closer. But he kept following the car in front of him, figuring they would create room enough for him to follow them out. The other car got absorbed into the mob Homer style, and so when they started attacking his car (which, put a huge dent in his fender and if you have ever been in an accident of any type in a car you would know how loud and scary something like that would actually sound from inside the car), he got scared.

    In fact, he was so scared he $#@! his pants. That is how the police found him. If he was doing it on purpose, he probably wouldn't have $#@! his pants because he would have expected the outcome that occurred. Instead he likely did not expect that outcome, thus $#@!ting his pants.
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  5. #574
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    There was no violent mob attacking his car. One of the videos it looked like 1 person swung something at the back of his car, occurring about 2 seconds before he shouted, according to you, "MUH LYFE!!" and decided to charge into a group of people and vehicles, that clearly extended well beyond the point of the initial collision, endangering his life far more than simply reversing and taking another route.
    ahhhh Bull Crap!

  6. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    That is the prosecutions case. And they will have to prove it. I don't see how they will be able to prove malice aforethought. Which is needed in a first degree murder case. They have thrown the whole book at him in the hopes that he will cop a plea, so they can call it a win. I'm glad he plead "not-guilty." I don't think they stand a hope in hell of proving it. I imagine by the time it goes to court they will be seeking a manslaughter charge instead.
    Can they change the charges now that he has pleaded not guilty? That doesn't seem right somehow. Then again nothing in this case seems right. He's been in jail for almost a year now. It'll probably be a year and a half by the time this thing goes to trial. Doesn't that violate the right to a speedy trial?

    Here's another thing that doesn't seem right. It appears that people that got injured in the violence from the protests are suing the people that organized the protest! Don't you need to sue the people that actually caused the injuries not the organizers? How can organizers of a protest be responsible for the actions of everyone that attend their protest? Can't this be used to squelch any controversial protest?

    Court rules Charlottesville victims can advance suit against white nationalists


    https://wtkr.com/2018/07/10/court-ru...-nationalists/

  7. #576
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Can they change the charges now that he has pleaded not guilty? That doesn't seem right somehow. Then again nothing in this case seems right. He's been in jail for almost a year now. It'll probably be a year and a half by the time this thing goes to trial. Doesn't that violate the right to a speedy trial?

    Here's another thing that doesn't seem right. It appears that people that got injured in the violence from the protests are suing the people that organized the protest! Don't you need to sue the people that actually caused the injuries not the organizers? How can organizers of a protest be responsible for the actions of everyone that attend their protest? Can't this be used to squelch any controversial protest?

    Court rules Charlottesville victims can advance suit against white nationalists


    https://wtkr.com/2018/07/10/court-ru...-nationalists/
    Hah, so you can go to somebody else's protest who has a permit, cause violence and mayhem, then sue them when you get hurt?? Amazing..
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

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  9. #577
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Hah, so you can go to somebody else's protest who has a permit, cause violence and mayhem, then sue them when you get hurt?? Amazing..
    Only if you are in a protected group.

    There's something I've been meaning to add to this topic. A lot of people here say things like "who cares, the guy is a Nazi". Remember that to many people on the left libertarians are closely related to Nazis and other "right wing" extremist groups.
    Last edited by Madison320; 07-10-2018 at 03:26 PM.

  10. #578
    This is all nuts though, since the report Charlottesville paid for, already said it was due to the incompetence of the cops and city government.

    I see no way any of these law suits can possibly be successful. It's like they're intentionally setting people up for disappointment and there will probably be rioting after each loss. (Anyone else taken a look at Charlottesville's replacement for the police chief? EGAD! Bigger moron than the last one!)

  11. #579
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  12. #580

    Dwayne Dixon encouraged Heather Heyer's death and is proud of it

    Listen to Dwayne Dixon direct counter protestors to stop traffic with their bodies!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LX59Ral_7Q

    EDIT - IMPORTANT CORRECTION!
    Although this video clearly demonstrates (between 1:35 to 2:16) that antifa leaders instruct naive protestors to walk out in front of cars - WHILE NEVER TAKING ON SUCH DANGEROUS ROLES THEMSELVES! - closer inspection reveals that this footage was likely recorded at a previous protest, NOT THE MORNING OF THE CHARLOTTESVILLE RIOT! A sign with the words “Rocks Bar and Hair Shop” appears on the left side of the screen. Googling “Rocks Bar and Hair Shop” shows us that this business is located in Durham, NC, not Charlottesville. There was a protest in Durham NC on May first and that is likely where this particular set of instructions was recorded. If you share this still-important video, DO NOT spread more misinformation by claiming that it’s from Charlottesville, just prior to Heather Heyer being injured - as is claimed in the video.
    ------------------
    @ 1: 35 of video:
    …Slow down traffic. Be willing to put your bodies on the line. But if the cops aren’t gonna stop them, they all know you’re here, right? They’re gonna drive on your ass... or someone’s gonna get hopped up, and [garble] gonna run your ass over, right? …RIGHT? [Yeah]

    Alright. So we know traffics coming this way, right? [motions] Get in that intersection… and start turning traffic that way [motions] Get someone down the NEXT block, to start screaming if $#@! comes towards us, right? Right!. MOVE! [motions] MOVE! Some of you stay here. Some of you who are willing to put your $#@! down, go over there! Get ready to get hit! (2:16)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LX59Ral_7Q
    Last edited by Valli6; 08-12-2018 at 09:13 AM.

  13. #581
    The unwholesome anniversary is upcoming.

    Can I assume that the red- and black-shirts will be assembling again to beat one another senseless?

  14. #582
    We can only hope. It beats watching football.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The unwholesome anniversary is upcoming.

    Can I assume that the red- and black-shirts will be assembling again to beat one another senseless?
    ...

  15. #583
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    We can only hope. It beats watching football.
    Maybe we should do a pool on which side suffers more broken heads (winner gets to flee the country with his winnings).

  16. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I could not be in a room with this $#@!, just a 50sec video grates on my nerves.



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  18. #585
    IMPORTANT CORRECTION regarding the video in my earlier post.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LX59Ral_7Q
    Please note:
    Although this video clearly demonstrates (between 1:35 to 2:16) that antifa leaders instruct naive protestors to walk out in front of cars - WHILE APPARENTLY NEVER TAKING ON SUCH DANGEROUS ROLES THEMSELVES! - closer inspection reveals that this footage was likely recorded at a previous protest, NOT THE MORNING OF THE CHARLOTTESVILLE RIOT! A sign with the words “Rocks Bar and Hair Shop” appears on the left side of the screen. Googling “Rocks Bar and Hair Shop” shows us that this business is located in Durham, NC, not Charlottesville. There was a protest in Durham NC on May first and that is likely where this particular set of instructions was recorded. If you share this still-important video, DO NOT spread more misinformation by claiming that it’s from Charlottesville and recorded just prior to Heather Heyer being injured (which seems to be the claim made by the person who made the video.)
    (See 1:35 to 2:16)

  19. #586
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Maybe we should do a pool on which side suffers more broken heads (winner gets to flee the country with his winnings).
    And go where?


  20. #587
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Maybe we should do a pool on which side suffers more broken heads (winner gets to flee the country with his winnings).
    Are you making a joke, or do you actually believe there are two different sides participating in this media extravaganza?

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    Complete and utter retards. Whites are killed at a greater rate by the police in terms of avg. encounters. Police are beasts who don't care who you are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Complete and utter retards. Whites are killed at a greater rate by the police in terms of avg. encounters. Police are beasts who don't care who you are.
    Police are Slave Patrols.

    Fusion centers run both sides of the circus..

    This is all about increasing the police state.
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  23. #590
    Wow its been a year since this incident happened.
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  25. #592
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Are you making a joke, or do you actually believe there are two different sides participating in this media extravaganza?
    Well, the parties involved certainly think they're on different sides.

    From a liberal perspective, there's no important difference between NAZIs and bolsheviks, but they do have different feelz.

    ...hence the head-breaking.



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  27. #593
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    And go where?

    I hear Montevideo's nice this time of year.

  28. #594
    So, per the latest reports, about two dozen NAZIs showed up, and nothing much happened.

  29. #595
    Dud. What, did the organizers not put out enough craigslist ads this time?
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  30. #596
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So, per the latest reports, about two dozen NAZIs showed up, and nothing much happened.
    Damn that's pretty much all of them!

  31. #597
    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Damn that's pretty much all of them!
    So one would hope.

    ...but there's a much larger pool of malcontent degenerates from which they might draw.

    It all depends on which politicians rally the politically ignorant to their cause.

    Really, at this point, losses for the natsocs mean gains for the bolsheviks, and vice versa.

    So, it's best to just not care, or become involved.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 08-19-2018 at 05:55 PM.

  32. #598
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So, per the latest reports, about two dozen NAZIs showed up, and nothing much happened.
    We'll have to get updates from the member(s) who attended.
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  33. #599
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    We'll have to get updates from the member(s) who attended.
    You didn't go this year?
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  34. #600
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    We'll have to get updates from the member(s) who attended.
    The basement stairs are a substantial obstacle.

    They were there in spirit.



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