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Thread: McCain Conservatives Are Rallying Behind Justin Amash

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    McCain Conservatives Are Rallying Behind Justin Amash

    On Wednesday, as Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) was voting with the nearly-unanimous House Democrats to impeach President Donald Trump, a group of former Republican campaign strategists for the likes of former Sen. John McCain and former Gov. John Kasich announced the formation of a new Super PAC to support Amash's effort to retain his swing-district congressional seat as an independent.

    "While we don't agree with him, or each other for that matter, on every issue, we think Washington needs more Justin Amashes," wrote Country Above Party Super PAC co-founders Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer in a joint Michigan Live op-ed yesterday. "Whether Amash is successful or not in his re-election bid as an independent will have consequences beyond his district's boundaries or even Michigan's borders. Allowing him to be swept aside in favor of a craven Trump apparatchik will further coarsen our politics and threaten the rule of law."

    Wilson, author of the 2018 bestseller Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real About the Worst President Ever, previously worked on campaigns for George H.W. Bush, Rudy Giuliani, and Evan McMullin, and was appointed to a Defense Department job by Dick Cheney. Timmer, an Amash constituent and former executive director of the Michigan Republican Party, announced last month that he "will support any Democrat—even a yellow dog—against any Republican who supports Trump." Weaver, a key strategist in both McCain presidential runs (though he was canned from the second when it was floundering in 2007), headed up the quixotic presidential bids of Jon Huntsman in 2012 and Kasich in 2016, and has been drawing a $10,000 monthly fee from the pro-Kasich Super PAC New Day for America ever since.

    Wilson and Weaver on Tuesday joined former McCain advisor Steve Schmidt and the interestingly married legal analyst George T. Conway III in announcing the formation of a parallel national Super PAC, the Lincoln Project, dedicated "to defeating President Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box and to elect those patriots who will hold the line."
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    https://reason.com/2019/12/19/mccain...-justin-amash/



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    Not a surprise really. The RINO's are just right of the communists democrats. John McCain waa such a traitor along with Kasich, Lindsey and Romney.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    "McCain" and "conservative" are mutually exclusive terms.

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    Wilson, author of the 2018 bestseller Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real About the Worst President Ever, previously worked on campaigns for George H.W. Bush, Rudy Giuliani, and Evan McMullin, and was appointed to a Defense Department job by Dick Cheney.
    That certainly qualifies him as an expert on the worst president ever.

    It's funny the establishment is paying people and paying them well to use the fact that working for Dubya left them tainted and untouchable to give bipartisanship a bad name. It's an interesting golden parachute for Bush hatchet men.

    It's sad anyone believes anything they say.

    At least they've gotten a tiny bit more subtle since they paid David Duke to endorse Ron Paul.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-20-2019 at 10:22 AM.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Good. I hope Justin somehow pulls this election rabbit out his ass and states in the house.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Good. I hope Justin somehow pulls this election rabbit out his ass and states in the house.
    I take it you're going to continue your donations to Justin? He needs all the help he can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I take it you're going to continue your donations to Justin? He needs all the help he can get.
    I have not. But I will. I gotta get through Christmas and all that.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    CNN,the Young Turks & the Neocons praise Justin Amash.
    I have a big problem with that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    CNN,the Young Turks & the Neocons praise Justin Amash.
    I have a big problem with that.
    Really? Because I never gave a $#@! what any of them say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    And what's Justin Amash's response to being praised by "McCain conservatives"? Is he very proud of himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    And what's Justin Amash's response to being praised by "McCain conservatives"?
    They seem to be beneath his consideration.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    ALL the right friends.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ALL the right friends.
    What does an unsolicited poison pill "endorsement" by unpopular enemies have to do with the man's friends?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What does an unsolicited poison pill "endorsement" by unpopular enemies have to do with the man's friends?
    It comes after he does their bidding and hangs out with them and it is far from the only one.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It comes after he does their bidding and hangs out with them and it is far from the only one.
    Do you expect me to believe any of these lies?

    You have no proof Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no evidence Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no reason to believe Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him.

    What does that make you?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-20-2019 at 04:17 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Do you expect me to believe any of these lies?

    You have no proof Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no evidence Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no reason to believe Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him.

    What does that make you?
    He is hanging out with the swamp, it doesn't matter which individual members.
    And most importantly he is endorsing their treason and destruction of the Constitution.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It comes after he does their bidding and hangs out with them and it is far from the only one.
    What does this make you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Do you expect me to believe any of these lies?

    You have no proof Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no evidence Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him. You have no reason to believe Rick Wilson, John Weaver, and Jeff Timmer asked him to do anything or ever met him.

    What does that make you?

    Last time I checked guilt by association was still a fallacy, and usually with good reason. Imagine my utter shock when I see SS using it ... CONSTANTLY, and usually against people who had been considered allies in the struggle for human liberty. What does THAT tell you?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Last time I checked guilt by association was still a fallacy, and usually with good reason. Imagine my utter shock when I see SS using it ... CONSTANTLY, and usually against people who had been considered allies in the struggle for human liberty. What does THAT tell you?
    If Swordshyll is right and guilt by association is valid, then Swordshyll is an enemy of liberty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If Swordshyll is right and guilt by association is valid, then Swordshyll is an enemy of liberty.

    Say it isn't so!
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Last time I checked guilt by association was still a fallacy, and usually with good reason. Imagine my utter shock when I see SS using it ... CONSTANTLY, and usually against people who had been considered allies in the struggle for human liberty. What does THAT tell you?
    It's not guilt by association.

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck AND flocks with other ducks.......................
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's not guilt by association.

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck AND flocks with other ducks.......................

    No?


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ALL the right friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It comes after he does their bidding and hangs out with them and it is far from the only one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He is hanging out with the swamp, it doesn't matter which individual members.
    And most importantly he is endorsing their treason and destruction of the Constitution.

    Hmmmm....
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's not guilt by association.

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck AND flocks with other ducks.......................
    May GOD have mercy on your soul.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    No?









    Hmmmm....
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    May GOD have mercy on your soul.
    No, it's association corroborating the rest of the evidence against him.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, it's association corroborating the rest of the evidence against him.

    Now denying facts set out in black and white? You'd make a GREAT politician.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, it's association corroborating the rest of the evidence against him.
    Otherwise known as guilt by association.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Now denying facts set out in black and white? You'd make a GREAT politician.
    That's what you are doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Otherwise known as guilt by association.
    No, guilt by association is when the only evidence involved is association.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Otherwise known as guilt by association.

    It's like trying to argue with a six year old.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    It's like trying to argue with a six year old.
    Don't be collectivist. I've had more intelligent conversations with certain six year olds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Don't be collectivist. I've had more intelligent conversations with certain six year olds.

    My bad. My own kids were more mature at six.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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