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    Is Criticizing Terrorism "Mental Illness"?



    Marine Le Pen (pictured at podium), the leader of France's right-wing National Front Party, posted tweets critical of the Islamic State terrorist group, including photos of their murdered victims. For this, she was charged with the crime of "disseminating violent images," and ordered by a court to undergo a psychiatric evaluation to determine if she is sane. (Photo by Sylvain Lefevre/Getty Images)



    On December 16, 2015, a French journalist on a mainstream radio station compared France's right-wing National Front Party to the Islamic State (ISIS) by saying that there is a "community of spirit" between them and that both push those who support them to "withdraw into their own identity". Marine Le Pen, the president of the National Front party, speaking of a "unacceptable verbal slippage," asked the radio station for the right to answer. She then published on Twitter images showing the bodies of victims of the Islamic State and adding: "ISIS is this!"
    The French media immediately accused her of broadcasting "indecent" and "obscene" images, and shortly after that, the French government ordered the Department of Justice to indict her. On November 8, 2017 the French national assembly also lifted her parliamentary immunity.
    A few months later, a judge mandated by the French government, charged Marine Le Pen with "disseminating violent images," citing article 227-24 of the French Penal Code, which defines the crime of:
    "... disseminating... a message of a violent nature, inciting terrorism, pornographic or likely to seriously violate human dignity or to incite minors to engage in games that physically endanger them, or to commercialize such a message."
    As part of the proceedings, Marine Le Pen received a letter from the court orderingher to undergo a psychiatric evaluation to determine if she is sane. She refused, saying that showing horrors committed by the Islamic State is not incitement to murder, and that pictures of victims of terrorism cannot be equated with pornography.
    The court's request indicates that the French authorities might be reviving the old Soviet use of "psychiatry" to silence dissidents or political opponents.
    At the moment, Le Pen can be arrested anywhere, at any time and could face up to five years in prison.
    As a presidential candidate in May 2017, she received 34% of the vote in the second round of voting. Sending her to jail could provoke anger among her supporters, so her arrest is not expected.
    What seems more probable is an effort to intimidate her, and if possible, to destroy her politically. A few weeks ago, the French government asked magistrates responsible for investigating "financial crimes" to seize two million euros ($2.3 million) of public funds granted to Marine Le Pen's party, which has since ceased almost all public activities. The legal offensive against Marine Le Pen was actually added to the financial offensive. Even if Le Pen is not sent to prison, the law seems to have been used to open the possibility of declaring her ineligible for the European Parliament elections scheduled for May 2019.

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    @ Swordsmyth

    "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds." ( God can free minds,, personal correction)

    Very few people know what freedom is..and look to someone else to give it to them.
    It starts with changing ones mind (Repent)

    I have been a Free man since 1980,, and learned my Freedom on a Prison Yard and Halls..

    I have traveled the length of the country twice while a wanted fugitive (assumed armed and dangerous), and lived on an alias as a respected member of the community.

    I completed my Parole in 2005.. and continue to live as a Free Man.

    My Freedom and my Faith are intertwined.. and it is protected by the Author of Freedom. (not any state)

    Nations are all being drawn to the last war.. and France is in the middle of it.. Media is promoting it.

    and I watch and pray..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    I wonder how many bodies of dead Iraqi and Syrian children killed by French bombs she showed while declaring "France is this!"

    I doubt it. Terrorists hate competing with other terrorists. They never want to admit to being terrorists though.

    Best thing about the Islamic State is that it demonstrates in the raw what the State really is: violence, brutality, terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I wonder how many bodies of dead Iraqi and Syrian children killed by French bombs she showed while declaring "France is this!"

    I doubt it. Terrorists hate competing with other terrorists. They never want to admit to being terrorists though.

    Best thing about the Islamic State is that it demonstrates in the raw what the State really is: violence, brutality, terrorism.
    The French government currently supports terrorist groups who are fighting against Assad in Syria. France has always been opposed to the tolerant/secular/pro-Hezbollah Assad who supports Christian/Shia minorities in the Middle East. Not sure if she supports a non-interventionist policy regarding Syria, but if she does then she should highlight this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    @ Swordsmyth

    "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds." ( God can free minds,, personal correction)

    Very few people know what freedom is..and look to someone else to give it to them.
    It starts with changing ones mind (Repent)

    I have been a Free man since 1980,, and learned my Freedom on a Prison Yard and Halls..

    I have traveled the length of the country twice while a wanted fugitive (assumed armed and dangerous), and lived on an alias as a respected member of the community.

    I completed my Parole in 2005.. and continue to live as a Free Man.

    My Freedom and my Faith are intertwined.. and it is protected by the Author of Freedom. (not any state)

    Nations are all being drawn to the last war.. and France is in the middle of it.. Media is promoting it.

    and I watch and pray..
    I am free by that definition but our freedom is limited to one degree or another by the everyday functional definition, I seek to limit or reduce the limits on my freedoms and so should everyone else.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I wonder how many bodies of dead Iraqi and Syrian children killed by French bombs she showed while declaring "France is this!"

    I doubt it. Terrorists hate competing with other terrorists. They never want to admit to being terrorists though.

    Best thing about the Islamic State is that it demonstrates in the raw what the State really is: violence, brutality, terrorism.
    So of course you attack her while ignoring the French government that is more directly responsible for the deaths you object to and is also trying to implement tyrannical psychiatry as a tool of an ever expanding empire that will commit even more crimes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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