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    Migrants Commit 70% of Violent Crimes in Norwegian Capital

    Migrants are responsible for 70% of violent crimes committed in Oslo, Norway, according to a study by the country's largest commercial television broadcaster.
    TV2 conducted a review of all verdicts involving serious bodily harm from 2018 until present day, and found that more than two-thirds of perpetrators had migration backgrounds, which is categorized as individuals who have migrated to Norway or those born to two immigrant parents.
    Many of the attacks involved knives, bottles, or sharp glass and inflicted "lifelong injuries, deep cuts and cranial fractures."
    "Over two of three gross violent incidents in Oslo were carried out by immigrants," TV2 reports. "This is despite the fact that, according to Statistics Norway, immigrants make up 33 percent of Oslo's population."

    More at: https://europe.infowars.com/migrants...n-oslo-norway/
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    I have not looked up each individual case but I have been wondering...

    Is there any data in Norway, or the U.S. for that matter, on the number of immigrants acting out in self-defense? I am not making a blanket statement that they are all innocent, but it is obvious that there are many Americans who simply can’t stand persons of other countries. I know in my area, there are business owners here who have migrated from Mexico, Italy, Iraq, Poland, and a small % of folks in my area can’t stand that fact, even though they have no interest in starting up their own business.

    I’m sure there are immigrants who do cause crime, but traveling hundreds or thousands of miles, some with children, I find it a little bizarre that they would come all this way to earn a decent living, just to get arrested.

    So, is there any data to show how many acted out of self-defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I have not looked up each individual case but I have been wondering...

    Is there any data in Norway, or the U.S. for that matter, on the number of immigrants acting out in self-defense? I am not making a blanket statement that they are all innocent, but it is obvious that there are many Americans who simply can’t stand persons of other countries. I know in my area, there are business owners here who have migrated from Mexico, Italy, Iraq, Poland, and a small % of folks in my area can’t stand that fact, even though they have no interest in starting up their own business.

    I’m sure there are immigrants who do cause crime, but traveling hundreds or thousands of miles, some with children, I find it a little bizarre that they would come all this way to earn a decent living, just to get arrested.

    So, is there any data to show how many acted out of self-defense?

    As a reminder, I oppose all forms of welfare and advocate ending all assistance, including Section 8.
    How about you show ANY evidence of natives persecuting them.

    Most of them are economic migrants looking for handouts and more willing to commit crimes to easily obtain resources and many of the others bear a hostility to western civilization for both legitimate and illegitimate reasons and see no reason they should follow our rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I have not looked up each individual case but I have been wondering...

    Is there any data in Norway, or the U.S. for that matter, on the number of immigrants acting out in self-defense? I am not making a blanket statement that they are all innocent, but it is obvious that there are many Americans who simply can’t stand persons of other countries. I know in my area, there are business owners here who have migrated from Mexico, Italy, Iraq, Poland, and a small % of folks in my area can’t stand that fact, even though they have no interest in starting up their own business.

    I’m sure there are immigrants who do cause crime, but traveling hundreds or thousands of miles, some with children, I find it a little bizarre that they would come all this way to earn a decent living, just to get arrested.

    So, is there any data to show how many acted out of self-defense?

    As a reminder, I oppose all forms of welfare and advocate ending all assistance, including Section 8.
    Great point hombre, I heard that 47% of the gang rapes in Norway are in self defense.
    frog:

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Maybe they need their own "Norway First" revolution and support some revolutionary party like GOP-Jarvanka.
    The first part is correct but a Jarvanka would be a drag on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How about you show ANY evidence of natives persecuting them.

    Most of them are economic migrants looking for handouts and more willing to commit crimes to easily obtain resources and many of the others bear a hostility to western civilization for both legitimate and illegitimate reasons and see no reason they should follow our rules.

    Shill, one of the reasons I advocate ending the Fed is because when things are local, locals can deal with their (our) own problems.

    Aside from the fact that I travel routinely, in my area I don’t see the “crisis” you talk about. Again, I am not saying that it doesn’t exist, but I can tell you many immigrants in my neck of the woods are actually hard workers who have jobs and do own/run businesses which employ other people.

    The folks sponging the system here in my area are mostly “legal” multi-generational Americans, ie tramps having multiple kids by multiple fathers just to increase the auto-deposited monthly check.

    Why should I worry or care about some other town in another state when I live in my own? Answer: I don’t!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Shill, one of the reasons I advocate ending the Fed is because when things are local, locals can deal with their (our) own problems.

    Aside from the fact that I travel routinely, in my area I don’t see the “crisis” you talk about. Again, I am not saying that it doesn’t exist, but I can tell you many immigrants in my neck of the woods are actually hard workers who have jobs and do own/run businesses which employ other people.

    The folks sponging the system here in my area are mostly “legal” multi-generational Americans, ie tramps having multiple kids by multiple fathers just to increase the auto-deposited monthly check.

    Why should I worry or care about some other town in another state when I live in my own? Answer: I don’t!
    We aren't talking about America, our problems are less severe than those in Europe but immigrants are on welfare at twice the rate of Americans and they vote for socialism at much higher rates, your area may be an exception but it is more likely that the immigrants you see working are also on welfare.

    The illegals also commit crimes at a higher rate than the natives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Shill, one of the reasons I advocate ending the Fed is because when things are local, locals can deal with their (our) own problems.

    Aside from the fact that I travel routinely, in my area I don’t see the “crisis” you talk about. Again, I am not saying that it doesn’t exist, but I can tell you many immigrants in my neck of the woods are actually hard workers who have jobs and do own/run businesses which employ other people.

    The folks sponging the system here in my area are mostly “legal” multi-generational Americans, ie tramps having multiple kids by multiple fathers just to increase the auto-deposited monthly check.

    Why should I worry or care about some other town in another state when I live in my own? Answer: I don’t!
    I'm still waiting for you to present ANY evidence of native Norwegians persecuting the migrants.

    This was a nice try at changing the subject though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Great point hombre, I heard that 47% of the gang rapes in Norway are in self defense.
    frog:
    Good point Strat. Don't blame the victim unless it's a demographic not protected by political correctness.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We aren't talking about America, our problems are less severe than those in Europe but immigrants are on welfare at twice the rate of Americans and they vote for socialism at much higher rates, your area may be an exception but it is more likely that the immigrants you see working are also on welfare.

    The illegals also commit crimes at a higher rate than the natives.

    What’s a dime bag go for these days?

    RP stated long ago that we all probably commit 3 felonies per day, perhaps more freedom and less laws, abiding by the NAP would solve most of that.

    Thanks. As principled as I am grounded you just reinforced my position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Good point Strat. Don't blame the victim unless it's a demographic not protected by political correctness.

    There's been a massive influx of Irish Catholic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    What’s a dime bag go for these days?

    RP stated long ago that we all probably commit 3 felonies per day, perhaps more freedom and less laws, abiding by the NAP would solve most of that.

    Thanks. As principled as I am grounded you just reinforced my position.


    Those aren't the only crimes they commit at higher rates than the natives and the illegals aren't interested in the NAP.

    You support the collapse of not just government but civilization, your "principles" are evil.


    I'm still waiting for you to present ANY evidence of native Norwegians persecuting the migrants.

    This was a nice try at changing the subject though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to present ANY evidence of native Norwegians persecuting the migrants.

    This was a nice try at changing the subject though.
    I did not change the subject, I stated that I have not looked any data up and asked if there was specific case data to support the OP. And then I followed up that I have my own city/state to worry about, why concern myself about other states much less other countries.

    Is there actual case data that you can point me to? And for what “specific” crimes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    You support the collapse of not just government but civilization, your "principles" are evil.

    So your position is that government is not evil, but the likes of Justin, me, and the RP site mission is.

    Why are you here again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I did not change the subject, I stated that I have not looked any data up and asked if there was specific case data to support the OP. And then I followed up that I have my own city/state to worry about, why concern myself about other states much less other countries.

    Is there actual case data that you can point me to? And for what “specific” crimes?
    You changed the subject to America and welfare instead of Norway and crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    So your position is that government is not evil, but the likes of Justin, me, and the RP site mission is.

    Why are you here again?
    That is not my position, big government is evil and anarchy leads to big government so it is also evil, I never said Justin or the site mission were evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You changed the subject to America and welfare instead of Norway and crime.
    Welfare and crime against others are universal, what difference does it matter who/where? I asked for case data to support the OP claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Welfare and crime against others are universal, what difference does it matter who/where? I asked for case data to support the OP claim.
    No, you implied that the migrants were the victims without the slightest shred of evidence in an attempt to discredit the data in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, you implied that the migrants were the victims without the slightest shred of evidence in an attempt to discredit the data in the OP.
    Negative on that, reread my posts. I spoke to my city/state as a reference and contrary to what some may think/believe, and asked for case data to support the OP claim.

    Like bills and legislation, I read them for myself to know what is in them - I never rely on msm to supply me with “facts”.

    I guess the “article” is good enough for you since you have not provided any case data to back it up.

    I am not discounting or supporting the article, it is just too vague for the likes of me
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Negative on that, reread my posts. I spoke to my city/state as a reference and contrary to what some may think/believe, and asked for case data to support the OP claim.
    I heard about that. Do you live in that town where a black gay guy got beat up, had bleach poured on him and had a rope put around his neck by maga dudes?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I heard about that. Do you live in that town where a black gay guy got beat up, had bleach poured on him and had a rope put around his neck by maga dudes?
    No. But I do live by where the Synagogue shooting took place. I even went there to offer condolences and then was interviewed by several news media to promote the right to bear arms to prevent such things in the future.

    And just this January I participated in the Pittsburgh gun rally.

    Each person who commits a crime should be held accountable, immigrant or not. I do not condone blanket criminalizing groups of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. But I do live by where the Synagogue shooting took place. I even went there to offer condolences and then was interviewed by several news media to promote the right to bear arms to prevent such things in the future.

    And just this January I participated in the Pittsburgh gun rally.

    Each person who commits a crime should be held accountable, immigrant or not. I do not condone blanket criminalizing groups of people.
    Nobody is doing that, the natives have a right to be selective and cautious about who they allow to join them and Norway is an example of the results of a failure to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nobody is doing that
    Oh, you’d be surprised. Or maybe not, if you were honest about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. But I do live by where the Synagogue shooting took place.
    What does an attack on a synagogue have to do with individual migrants committing crimes against individuals in Norway. Was it the Norwegians who shot up the synagogue?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What does an attack on a synagogue have to do with individual migrants committing crimes against individuals in Norway. Was it the Norwegians who shot up the synagogue?
    The same relevance as your post: “Do you live in that town where a black gay guy got beat up, had bleach poured on him and had a rope put around his neck by maga dudes?”

    Does that have anything to do with Norwegians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    The same relevance as your post: “Do you live in that town where a black gay guy got beat up, had bleach poured on him and had a rope put around his neck by maga dudes?”

    Does that have anything to do with Norwegians?
    Oh I get it. You believe that collectively, people of European decent are more likely to commit hate crimes than migrants. This leads migrants to react with defensive gang rapes, protective carjacking, etc. Darn white people and their privilege, they are behind everything.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Oh I get it. You believe that collectively, people of European decent are more likely to commit hate crimes than migrants. This leads migrants to react with defensive gang rapes, protective carjacking, etc. Darn white people and their privilege, they are behind everything.
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    those born to two immigrant parents.
    So they include native born citizens in their figures.

    These analyses show that immigrants and Norwegian-born with immigrant parents were overrepresented among charged offenders throughout the period we consider here, but that the level of overrepresentation has decreased over the last 10-15 years.

    The decline is most substantial for the groups that were the most overrepresented in the beginning of the century – including immigrants from African countries, refugees and Norwegian-born with immigrant parents. The time trends vary somewhat depending on crime type.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-04-2019 at 01:07 PM.

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