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Thread: Do you want Rand, Ted, and Ron to just hand Trump the 2024 Nom ?

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Property rights, free speech, gun rights...


    Do you want a list?

    We already know what you are against. I asked you what you are for, lol.
    Last edited by RJB; 05-08-2021 at 05:13 PM.
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    This started when I said AIPAC funded DeSantis, and DeSantis has done things like this:

    Governor Ron DeSantis officially signed CS/CS/HB 741: Anti-Semitism into law following a ceremonial bill signing earlier this week in Jerusalem.
    https://www.flgov.com/2019/05/31/gov...-cs-cs-hb-741/

    Then, you started with the Vatican for some reason. Anyway, the Balfour Declaration did not establish the political state of Israel.
    I'm an older man with a lot of knowledge who can't spend a lot of time online. Good luck with your education.
    You shillin', Private Snowball? No matter. At least we agree that DeSantis is more of the same, not the new savior of the GOP the right media is attempting to paint him as.

    But just fyi....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917.
    Spearheaded by Rothschilds, the bankers of the Vatican, who have a little somethin' to do with that whole "Holy Land" thing.

    Jacob Rothschild admitting his family paved the way for creation of Israel


    Netanyahu and Teresa May celebrate the Balfour Declaration
    Last edited by devil21; 05-08-2021 at 07:37 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Can you name my anti-conservative or anti-libertarian views?
    Well, you haven't really responded. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a life and don't have to post on the weekends. Maybe me and the rest of the forum is wrong about you. After all, I am not the only one to think that you are a progressive/Marxist*. Are you really a conservative/Libertarian? If so, great! Will you actually claim to be one or the other or both!?!?


    * I have never been accused here of being a progressive/Marxist, yet many people have accused yo of being one. This is a great opportunity for you to set the record straight. Let's hear it count! Are you one of us?
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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    We already know what you are against. I asked you what you are for, lol.


    Sure thing. Uh....

    "I know you are but what am I"

    "I'm rubber and you're glue, what bounces off me sticks to you"



    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Well, you haven't really responded. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a life and don't have to post on the weekends. Maybe me and the rest of the forum is wrong about you.
    If it's posting habits you're concerned about, maybe you should look at members who are above 10k posts a year rather than the one who has 10k in 7 years?


    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    After all, I am not the only one to think that you are a progressive/Marxist*. Are you really a conservative/Libertarian? If so, great! Will you actually claim to be one or the other or both!?!?
    I don't identify as a conservative, but I do identify as a libertarian.


    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    * I have never been accused here of being a progressive/Marxist, yet many people have accused yo of being one.
    I challenge people on their bull$#@!. Maybe you don't?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  6. #95
    So seriously, you call yourself a libertarian in real life? I don't think anyone except someone as naive as Ender believes that.

    You post a lot of negatives like, "Orange Man bad," granted, he is not good, but I have NEVER seen you post a positive like, "Owning an AR-15 good."

    But if so, welcome to the club! When did you convert, yesterday?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post


    Sure thing. Uh....

    "I know you are but what am I"

    "I'm rubber and you're glue, what bounces off me sticks to you"





    If it's posting habits you're concerned about, maybe you should look at members who are above 10k posts a year rather than the one who has 10k in 7 years?




    I don't identify as a conservative, but I do identify as a libertarian.




    I challenge people on their bull$#@!. Maybe you don't?
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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    :

    I challenge people on their bull$#@!. Maybe you don't?
    Uh, dude, I challenge you on your bull$#@! very regularly. Would you like me to challenge you more?
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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    You post a lot of negatives like, "Orange Man bad," granted, he is not good, but I have NEVER seen you post a positive like, "Owning an AR-15 good."
    Why would I?


    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    But if so, welcome to the club! When did you convert, yesterday?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Uh, dude, I challenge you on your bull$#@! very regularly. Would you like me to challenge you more?
    I'm not the type of poster to have an emotional breakdown and label you as a cryptoprogressive if you disagree with me.


    Other posters do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Why would I?




    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm not the type of poster to have an emotional breakdown and label you as a cryptoprogressive if you disagree with me.


    Other posters do that.
    Have you been drinking tonight, count?
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  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Have you been drinking tonight, count?
    Stay mad, I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Stay mad, I guess.
    Mad? Is that projection on your part?
    Last edited by RJB; 05-09-2021 at 12:20 AM.
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  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You shillin', Private Snowball? No matter. At least we agree that DeSantis is more of the same, not the new savior of the GOP the right media is attempting to paint him as.

    But just fyi....

    Spearheaded by Rothschilds, the bankers of the Vatican, who have a little somethin' to do with that whole "Holy Land" thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Spearheaded by Rothschilds, the bankers of the Vatican, who have a little somethin' to do with that whole "Holy Land" thing.
    Real history is a lot more complicated and nuanced. You should dig into it. I could spend hours on this, if I had hours.
    The Holy See didn't even recognize Zionist Israel until 1994. It had absolutely nothing to do with its founding, indeed, it is responsible for keeping East Jerusalem non-Jewish up to this day, and the Orthodox churches and the Hashemite Kingdom helped also. This crisis is bubbling to this day, and considering Trump's recognition of all Jerusalem and all the Golan as "Israeli", and the ongoing tensions and violence, all of which the Holy See has unfailingly not only protested against, but supported Palestinians and Syrians and Iraqis throughout the whole time, reaching a boiling point. Concerning the portion of investments which the Holy See has and had with the various Rothschild banking entities of Europe, this is of little matter, and drawing base conclusions from it would be a mistake. The Vatican Bank is a sovereign institution that, if anything, has been more impacted by the Italian and Sicilian mafias, the Knights of Malta and the Propaganda Due than the Rothschilds; still, the Bank is wholly controlled by the Holy See. In the course of business at times, in the demands of this modern capitalist world, and the wars and sufferings of the Holy See since the French Revolution and Napoleonic captivity, it was expedient for the Church to take out some loans. Those loans were, at times, sourced from the banks owned by the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds were enemies of Napoleon, who was also enemy of the Holy See.
    Your faulty and egregious base perception, oft repeated by others without any historical understanding, only contributes to further disinformation and misconception. For example, because the Nazi party borrowed from banks owned by the Harrimans, Warburgs or Rothschilds before the Reich took power in 1933 has absolutely no logical standing to purport that the Rothschilds created Hitler, an absurdity promulgated by the disinfo trolls and simpletons of the conspiracy "true shill" arena. I'll leave you now, for sake of my own time, with the facts that the Vatican to this day opposes Israeli occupation of Palestinian homes, lands, and rights, that it recognizes Palestine proper, that it opposed all U.S. wars in the Middle East, more vehemently than any other European entity, under all the Popes, and that it maintains diplomatic and real communal contact with the enemies of radical Zionist Israel which are never mentioned in the press. Find out what the Right-Wing Zionists today in "Israel" and all around the world really think of the Holy See, indeed what they really think of all Christianity (even the puppets they create, so prevalent in the United States), and you'll start discovering why your current dispositions are nothing but shallow forms of disinformation. That disinformation is what keeps American conservatives in the wrong camp, unable to distinguish between the forces of good, and the forces of evil. Individuals, power alliances and changing paradigms in the economic and diplomatic spheres are not static. Do you know what today's Rothschild family really wants Israel to do? No. Do you know how much say the Rothschilds have inside Israeli politics in 2021 and which side of the issues they favor? No.
    Last edited by Snowball; 05-09-2021 at 09:12 AM.

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Your faulty and egregious base perception, oft repeated by others without any historical understanding, only contributes to further disinformation and misconception. For example, because the Nazi party borrowed from banks owned by the Harrimans, Warburgs or Rothschilds before the Reich took power in 1933 has absolutely no logical standing to purport that the Rothschilds created Hitler, an absurdity promulgated by the disinfo trolls and simpletons of the conspiracy "true shill" arena.
    Since 99% of your post is unsourced and based on apparently public declarations at various periods in time, which may or may not still be relevant to current times, I respect your assessment but disagree with it, particularly the part about Hitler. It's a rather absurd coincidence theory that the same banking interests that openly admit the creation of Israel for the purpose of migrating Jews there didn't also later create the reason for that desired and planned migration to occur, even as those banking interests and associated corporations like Standard Oil openly supplied that reason.

    Any way, back to the original thread topic.....DeSantis is definitely more of the same. None of them progress without paying homage to the Wailing Wall (the remains of an old Roman fort). The question one has to ask themselves is why?
    Last edited by devil21; 05-09-2021 at 12:30 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Since 99% of your post is unsourced and based on apparently public declarations at various periods in time, which may or may not still be relevant to current times, I respect your assessment but disagree with it, particularly the part about Hitler. It's a rather absurd coincidence theory that the same banking interests that openly admit the creation of Israel for the purpose of migrating Jews there didn't also later create the reason for that desired and planned migration to occur, even as those banking interests and associated corporations like Standard Oil openly supplied that reason.

    Any way, back to the original thread topic.....DeSantis is definitely more of the same. None of them progress without paying homage to the Wailing Wall (the remains of an old Roman fort). The question one has to ask themselves is why?
    Thank you for the respect, and that respect will be returned. Everything I wrote is true, it does not have to be sourced in references, although I could recommend further reading if you so desire on any of the points made. Concerning the Nazi movement, and Adolf Hitler's democratic victory in 1933 to become Chancellor of Germany, along with his supports within the most staunch enemies of the worldwide Zionist movement, they are vast and span multiple ethnicities, interests, countries, and religious circles. There has not been a more serious and deadly enemy of organized Jewry since, or before Adolf Hitler for centuries. It was not until 1933 that the banking interests which funded Communism, the nemesis of National Socialism, Liberal Democracy and Constitutional and Absolute Monarchy, and the Ultramontanes, shifted completely their involvement out of the former Weimar Republic due to circumstances beyond their control, because the Nazis disposed of their ruinous schemes which perverted and cast into thralldom the whole of the Germanic race, with the ill-conceived assistance of the Anglosphere and the de Gaulle faction. Subsequent fictions and false narratives ensued, much of which has been cleared up quite succinctly in documents and monographs which the powers-that-be are still trying to suppress, blatantly when possible, obfuscatiingly when the direct method is legally unavailable. Heroes were made into cowards, and cowards into heroes. Think Chamberlain and Churchill, think the Kennedys and the Bushes, the Forrestal Diaries and Patton's letters. Cui Bono? We are still dealing with all this, to a factor of a thousand times. The repurcussions of these deceptions run the gamut of fields, from science to history to finance to psychology and philosophy itself, and even our most basic views of human achievement, as is represented in the current Pentagon UFO masquerade.
    Last edited by Snowball; 05-09-2021 at 04:08 PM.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    GTF outta here! Lol

    Can you name one of your pro-libertarian or pro-conservativr views?



    Property rights, free speech, gun rights...


    Do you want a list?


    I don't need a list, but here's a few questions:


    1. Who were your prez voting choices 2020, 2016, 2012, and 2008?

    2. Do you support minimum wage statutes/ordinances at the federal, state, and local levels?

    3. Do you support the 21 state constitutional carry statutes?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post


    I don't identify as a conservative, but I do identify as a libertarian.

    What are your thoughts about Ron Paul and Rand Paul?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I don't need a list, but here's a few questions:


    1. Who were your prez voting choices 2020, 2016, 2012, and 2008?

    2. Do you support minimum wage statutes/ordinances at the federal, state, and local levels?

    3. Do you support the 21 state constitutional carry statutes?
    Good questions.

    1. Ron Paul

    2. No. That is up to the business owner. Once government is involved, it is a multi-lateral agreement which upsets private contract rights between 2 people.

    3. No. Any legislation which justifies/nullifies the Natural Right outlined in the 2nd Amendment does nothing but set precedent where government feels it has the right to take away. People had better read the 2nd A and support it for what it is - government/its employees Shall Not Infringe.
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Good questions.

    1. Ron Paul

    2. No. That is up to the business owner. Once government is involved, it is a multi-lateral agreement which upsets private contract rights between 2 people.

    3. No. Any legislation which justifies/nullifies the Natural Right outlined in the 2nd Amendment does nothing but set precedent where government feels it has the right to take away. People had better read the 2nd A and support it for what it is - government/its employees Shall Not Infringe.

    Oh, I know how you would answer, PAF. But TheCount is paid to post here. Just like the banned Zip, the banned Influenza, Sonny Tufts, etc. All of these trolls are extreme progs. TheCount avoids answering these questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  22. #109
    Ted Cruz won't ever become president and I'm pretty sure Rand won't be running ever again.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Ted Cruz won't ever become president and I'm pretty sure Rand won't be running ever again.
    It's too early to say so for either, they are both relatively young.

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