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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Then you should know just how differences in compression can cause changes in the speed of clips, lost frames etc.
    Exactly. I didn't mean to imply it was on purpose- just that it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ok, then you should agree with what I'm saying.. zooming in speeds up the amount the pixels move per second on the screen, but the action takes the same amount of time.. so it's not really "speeding up".

    Certainly not "doctored" except for the part about zooming in.. but it is dishonest to say that zooming in is dishonest. That is just what you do when you want to get a closer look.

    I believe a karate chop is when your palm is open, and you "chop" down with the bottom of your hand onto something. That is what he did. It wasn't hard. He didn't break her arm. But that's what he did. If you saw something else, make the argument. But everybody will disagree with you unless they are dishonest.



    They took his press pass away, that was fair, they don't need people man handling the women with the mic at these events.

    It's the leftist media that is making a big scene about the whole thing because he got removed.
    He was pointing when she grabbed for the mic- he was still pointing as his arm came down. It was NOT a karate chop- just part of the movement he had started before she went for the mic.

    And I didn't say zooming was "dishonest"- just that it does change the speed.
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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    He was pointing when she grabbed for the mic- he was still pointing as his arm came down. It was NOT a karate chop- just part of the movement he had started before she went for the mic.




    And I didn't say zooming was "dishonest"- just that it does change the speed.
    No, it doesn't.. not in the way the dishonest media is saying. It increases the distance the pixels travel, but the arm still takes the same amount of time to come down.
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  5. #94
    Lord, dannno. A karate chop is a specific thing. One stiffens the hand, one strikes with the edge, one focuses the force and momentum to maximize the impact.

    Look at the pic you posted with the cute little red circles on it. If he tried to break a board with that form--his fingers curved and apart that way--how many bones would he break?

    The guy was not being a journalist. He was being an immature little jerk. That kind of behavior would get him kicked out of most preschools. This pro- versus anti-karate chop noise serves only to distract people from that fact. It's a distraction. It can only obscure the ugly truth about how low CNN has sunk.

    It's a nothingburger that CNN wants people to talk about because the more some people focus on a nothingburger detail, the more other people will decide the whole incident is a nothingburger.

    Stop obsessing.
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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Lord, dannno. A karate chop is a specific thing. One stiffens the hand, one strikes with the edge, one focuses the force and momentum to maximize the impact.

    Look at the pic you posted with the cute little red circles on it. If he tried to break a board with that form--his fingers curved and apart that way--how many bones would he break?

    The guy was not being a journalist. He was being an immature little jerk. That kind of behavior would get him kicked out of most preschools. This pro- versus anti-karate chop noise serves only to distract people from that fact. It's a distraction. It can only obscure the ugly truth about how low CNN has sunk.

    It's a nothingburger that CNN wants people to talk about because the more some people focus on a nothingburger detail, the more other people will decide the whole incident is a nothingburger.

    Stop obsessing.
    It is the best and closest description to what happened. It was a strike with an open palm in the same motion as a karate chop with the same contact point. I called it a light karate chop.

    It is not enough to call it an assault, but it's enough to pull his creds, that is not how those things are supposed to work.

    The right is not obsessing, the left is obsessing over it. The right is simply defending their position.
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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It is the best and closest description to what happened. It was a strike with an open palm in the same motion as a karate chop with the same contact point. I called it a light karate chop.

    It is enough to pull his creds, that is not how those things are supposed to work.

    The right is not obsessing, the left is obsessing over it.
    He grabbed the mike with one hand and tried to push her away with the other arm.

    He's an $#@!. One needs no karate to be an $#@!.

    Of course leftists are focusing on the karate chop statement. Anyone who knows the first thing about karate can tell a chop from a backhanded shove. The left will pick at any tiny factual mistake in a desperate attempt to discredit their critics. Only an idiot would play that game.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-08-2018 at 07:51 PM.
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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It is the best and closest description to what happened. It was a strike with an open palm in the same motion as a karate chop with the same contact point. I called it a light karate chop.

    It is not enough to call it an assault, but it's enough to pull his creds, that is not how those things are supposed to work.

    The right is not obsessing, the left is obsessing over it. The right is simply defending their position.
    It is a fitting description for moving his hand in that manner and universally recognized.

    The left is way too quick at times to describe normal social situations as abuse yet here we have an example of a man intentionally putting his hands on a woman, preventing her from doing her job and they defend him. If people do not wake up to all the incidents this year where the left has exposed themselves for being the frauds they are, they never will.

    If this was outside the press room we typically would have seen some guy become her white knight, whom would have came at him in a physically threatening manner or actually kicked his ass for it. If he did this too another guy outside that room in many cases it would not have ended well for him.

  11. #99
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    It's a nothingburger that CNN wants people to talk about because the more some people focus on a nothingburger detail, the more other people will decide the whole incident is a nothingburger.

    Stop obsessing.
    Cunninglingus and psychiatry brought us to this.

  13. #101
    I thought he wasn't rough with the young lady though still very disrespecting and humiliating for himself, he just looks like a child that isn't done playing with his trucks.

    He should've had his WH credentials pulled when he disrupted Trump and Kim's summit talk. American reporters lobbing political grenades during tense nuclear sensitive meetings is just stupid. He should've been fired by CNN on the spot for that kind of behavior on the international stage. But Jim Acosta is CNN's very own walking talking virtue signal.
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    He shouldna acosta.
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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He shouldna acosta.
    Nor should he be complaining, acosta he a white male.
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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Nor should he be complaining, acosta he a white male.
    It Acosta him his press pass.
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  20. #107
    Well I at least thought the intern's white and gold dress looked nice.
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  21. #108
    appears there is legal precedent that a white house press pass can't be revoked without due process

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...s-pass/575479/

    "The new steps enunciated in the Sherrill decision to ensure that reporters’ First Amendment rights are not violated include the requirement to give the reporter notice and the right to rebut a formal written decision, which must accompany any revocation. “We further conclude that notice, opportunity to rebut, and a written decision are required because the denial of a pass potentially infringes upon First Amendment guarantees,” the court’s ruling states. “Such impairment of this interest cannot be permitted to occur in the absence of adequate procedural due process.”"
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    appears there is legal precedent that a white house press pass can't be revoked without due process

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...s-pass/575479/

    "The new steps enunciated in the Sherrill decision to ensure that reporters’ First Amendment rights are not violated include the requirement to give the reporter notice and the right to rebut a formal written decision, which must accompany any revocation. “We further conclude that notice, opportunity to rebut, and a written decision are required because the denial of a pass potentially infringes upon First Amendment guarantees,” the court’s ruling states. “Such impairment of this interest cannot be permitted to occur in the absence of adequate procedural due process.”"
    Judicial overreach, SCOTUS will put an end to it if they are foolish enough to pursue it.
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  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Meanwhile Trump named a CNN commentator to take over his Justice Department.



    "Put his hands on an intern"? He did not lay hands on her. Fake news. Fox News claimed he pushed her. Video:

    actually he did ....he karate chopped her arm. I watched it multiple times. He wouldnt shut the hel l up, after trying to bring up "carvan" and race issue as usual. What is there to DEBATE about illegal immigration , at this point? COME check out my state if you want to see how $#@!ed up it is.



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  27. #113
    Karate chop.


  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    appears there is legal precedent that a white house press pass can't be revoked without due process

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...s-pass/575479/

    "The new steps enunciated in the Sherrill decision to ensure that reporters’ First Amendment rights are not violated include the requirement to give the reporter notice and the right to rebut a formal written decision, which must accompany any revocation. “We further conclude that notice, opportunity to rebut, and a written decision are required because the denial of a pass potentially infringes upon First Amendment guarantees,” the court’s ruling states. “Such impairment of this interest cannot be permitted to occur in the absence of adequate procedural due process.”"
    The scenarios are different. In that case Sherrill it was the application process that was not following due process and Sherrill was never giving a WH pass or explaination for his application denial. In Acoster's case, he's had a pass for many years, and due to his behavior and actions his pass is revoked. There is no question why it was revoked, maybe he deserves a formal statement but you can't site the Sherril case saying it supports Acoster when it is categorically different.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    True, Trump does not act classy and presidential like Reagan. However, no one at CNN acts classy like Walter Cronkite.
    Maybe Acosta should have grabbed her by the pussy instead.

    And since this is all just a sideshow farce anyway, it would at least have been more entertaining if he had used a WWE-style suplex instead of that lame-ass excuse for a "karate chop" ...

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Maybe Acosta should have grabbed her by the pussy instead.
    He's not a celebrity star billionaire, no woman would let him do it anyways. He could be like his CNN buddies Anderson cooper and Don lemon and prefer the company of men.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Maybe Acosta should have grabbed her by the pussy instead.

    And since this is all just a sideshow farce anyway, it would at least have been more entertaining if he had used a WWE-style suplex instead of that lame-ass excuse for a "karate chop" ...
    Like a WWE fight, I am not taking sides. Acosta didn't assault the intern. However, Acosta is a jackass, and so is Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Like a WWE fight, I am not taking sides. Acosta didn't assault the intern. However, Acosta is a jackass, and so is Trump.
    You should take sides.
    Jim was given a fair amount of time for questions, and refused to give the mike up.
    Why should Jim get more talking time than anyone else?
    Is he special? Is he asking those tough questions that speak truth to power?

    Some of you so-called fence sitters are so phony.

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    If it's Luke Rudowski up there, I think he would be right to be rude, and ask President Trump real, hard hitting, truth to power questions.


    But we're talking about Jim Acosta here. He is sleazy, selfish, and unprofessional. He is not allowed to hog up the press briefing time.

    BTW, Trump has by far been the most transparent and open president. He does not shy away from the press. He has endured more B.S. from the press than the past few presidents combined. And I mean he has given more press conferences, talked to the pres, more than any other president, ever. Even though all they ever ask about is Russia and whatever the other "scandal de jour" is.

    So to say you aren't taking sides, "cuz its WWE, they all the same, dur hurr" is just ridiculous.

  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    You should take sides.
    Jim was given a fair amount of time for questions, and refused to give the mike up.
    Why should Jim get more talking time than anyone else?
    Is he special? Is he asking those tough questions that speak truth to power?

    Some of you so-called fence sitters are so phony.
    LOL. I am not fence sitting. I genuinely could give a $#@! less about this show. Trump had every right to take his pass. However Acosta didn't assault her and I am not going to give it a second thought other than in this silly discussion. If you want to dwell on it for the rest of the year, be my guest. It's still a somewhat free country. Otherwise don't act like I'm obligated to care.
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