Some libertarians are stooges of the NWO

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Ive received a lot of neg reps and hate here from some libertarians who disagree with my patriotic, pro white pro American stance. They agree with the NWO commie genocidal elites that "race doesn't matter" and that white people shouldn't resist becoming a minority or God forbid be "racist." But do these libertarians realize they are playing right into the hands of the liberal Stalinist elite and are pushing their commie ideology on good conservative white people?

[Madison320]

Ive received a lot of neg reps and hate here from some libertarians who disagree with my patriotic, pro white pro American stance. They agree with the NWO commie genocidal elites that "race doesn't matter" and that white people shouldn't resist becoming a minority or God forbid be "racist." But do these libertarians realize they are playing right into the hands of the liberal Stalinist elite and are pushing their commie ideology on good conservative white people?

I just saw a video the other day on what's been happening in South Africa. And I agree that for whatever reason, certain groups don't seem to be able to form a relatively free country. But I think the flaw is in democracy not race. Look at the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. I think the fundamental flaw is 1 man 1 vote. That's a huge flaw in the system when someone who contributes millions in tax revenue has an equal vote as someone who is a net parasite. I don't believe any amount of checks and balances can prevent socialism from eventually taking over in a 1 man 1 vote system. Only net contributors should be allowed to vote.

[dannno]

They are stuck back in the days when Rand and Trump were battling it out in the primaries... I was against Trump back then too, but it became pretty obvious by election time based on the media reaction that Trump was anti-deep state. It would be better if he were more principled from a liberty standpoint, but we are in dangerous territory, a Hillary win would have screwed us over really hard. Having somebody who is against the deep state in the White House is a big deal, and something we should be using to further our cause in the long haul.

[otherone]

But do these libertarians realize they are playing right into the hands of the liberal Stalinist elite and are pushing their commie ideology on good conservative white people?

Most libertarians I know are pushing the ideology of self-ownership and and the weakening of central government. Didn't realize this was Stalinist. Vielen Dank mein freund.

[thoughtomator]

Ive received a lot of neg reps and hate here from some libertarians who disagree with my patriotic, pro white pro American stance. They agree with the NWO commie genocidal elites that "race doesn't matter" and that white people shouldn't resist becoming a minority or God forbid be "racist." But do these libertarians realize they are playing right into the hands of the liberal Stalinist elite and are pushing their commie ideology on good conservative white people?

You need to understand that these "libertarians" are not libertarians, they don't care if you are dead and often would prefer you were - less competition after all - and they have a time horizon of an ADHD patient. They're actually barbarians who are literally advocating the complete abandonment of civilization in toto and a return to the natural, savage AKA kill-or-be-killed state of man.

That they are not only tolerated here but have free run of this board and are even able to de facto write their own rules to not follow is why you never see me anymore.

[PierzStyx]

Ive received a lot of neg reps and hate here from some libertarians who disagree with my patriotic, pro white pro American stance. They agree with the NWO commie genocidal elites that "race doesn't matter" and that white people shouldn't resist becoming a minority or God forbid be "racist." But do these libertarians realize they are playing right into the hands of the liberal Stalinist elite and are pushing their commie ideology on good conservative white people?

And you are a perfect example of just such a stooge.

You cannot be "pro-white" and be a libertarian.





"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea. You see people in group. A civil libertarian like myself sees everybody as an important individual. It's not the color of their skin that is important." -Ron Paul

Libertarianism protects human rights. Every human has the same equal rights. When you favor one group over another with government power you are granting more power to that group and violating the human rights of others. Racism of any stripe is the opposite of libertarianism because libertarianism believes in universal equal human rights and individualism. Racism is collectivist and wants to use government to grant certain powers and privileges to some at the expense of others.

You know what does play into the agenda of the rich and powerful? Dividing an ignorant population that could overwhelm the elites with the merest of efforts. It is easier to control 300 million people when they're too busy fighting each other instead of you. How is this accomplished? By promulgating idiot ideas to get the masses to hate each other over. Make up stupid reasons to make some of them hate the others and play them against each other. Nationalism and racism work perfectly for this cause because even the most simple-minded can understand them, "Not- 'Murica bad! Not white bad! Give President power to protect 'Murica!"

It is such a slave mentality that you would think any semi-intelligent person would see through it. But there you go.

[jllundqu]

You get your rights as an individual, not because you belong to a particular group. I seem to remember this quirky Texas doctor who became a congressman saying that. Weird

[jllundqu]

And you are a perfect example of just such a stooge.

You cannot be "pro-white" and be a libertarian.





"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea. You see people in group. A civil libertarian like myself sees everybody as an important individual. It's not the color of their skin that is important." -Ron Paul

Libertarianism protects human rights. Every human has the same equal rights. When you favor one group over another with government power you are granting more power to that group and violating the human rights of others. Racism of any stripe is the opposite of libertarianism because libertarianism believes in universal equal human rights and individualism. Racism is collectivist and wants to use government to grant certain powers and privileges to some at the expense of others.

You know what does play into the agenda of the rich and powerful? Dividing an ignorant population that could overwhelm the elites with the merest of efforts. It is easier to control 300 million people when they're too busy fighting each other instead of you. How is this accomplished? By promulgating idiot ideas to get the masses to hate each other over. Make up stupid reasons to make some of them hate the others and play them against each other. Nationalism and racism work perfectly for this cause because even the most simple-minded can understand them, "Not- 'Murica bad! Not white bad! Give President power to protect 'Murica!"

It is such a slave mentality that you would think any semi-intelligent person would see through it. But there you go.

Beat me by about .5 seconds!

+rep

I would think this is a simple concept.

You are free to advocate for your "white America" all you want, as racist as it is. But don't for a minute try to equate that position with anything even remotely akin to individual liberty and freedom.... You have some learnin to do, kid.

[dannno]

And you are a perfect example of just such a stooge.

You cannot be "pro-white" and be a libertarian.





"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea. You see people in group. A civil libertarian like myself sees everybody as an important individual. It's not the color of their skin that is important." -Ron Paul

Libertarianism protects human rights. Every human has the same equal rights. When you favor one group over another with government power you are granting more power to that group and violating the human rights of others. Racism of any stripe is the opposite of libertarianism because libertarianism believes in universal equal human rights and individualism. Racism is collectivist and wants to use government to grant certain powers and privileges to some at the expense of others.

You know what does play into the agenda of the rich and powerful? Dividing an ignorant population that could overwhelm the elites with the merest of efforts. It is easier to control 300 million people when they're too busy fighting each other instead of you. How is this accomplished? By promulgating idiot ideas to get the masses to hate each other over. Make up stupid reasons to make some of them hate the others and play them against each other. Nationalism and racism work perfectly for this cause because even the most simple-minded can understand them, "Not- 'Murica bad! Not white bad! Give President power to protect 'Murica!"

It is such a slave mentality that you would think any semi-intelligent person would see through it. But there you go.

It would be nice if we could live in a free society, I think those views would be more prevalent..

I don't care what color their skin is, if the government is using my tax dollars to import particular individuals here and they are socialist at almost double the rate of natives and voting for more leftist policies and to take more of my money, then that is a concern.

That said, you can also be pro-white and pro-asian and pro-Mexican and pro-black or whatever group. Why not all of them? Not sure why you would be pro-Muslim though. Just kidding, lol.

[r3volution 3.0]

I find it odd that the OP is surprised that libertarians oppose national socialism.

But I think the flaw is in democracy not race.

Yup

Civilization is in decline because of the political empowerment of the masses.

The race of those masses is unimportant; nationalist/racist politics is an effect or signal of the decline.

[phill4paul]

You need to understand that these "libertarians" are not libertarians, they don't care if you are dead and often would prefer you were - less competition after all - and they have a time horizon of an ADHD patient. They're actually barbarians who are literally advocating the complete abandonment of civilization in toto and a return to the natural, savage AKA kill-or-be-killed state of man.

That they are not only tolerated here but have free run of this board and are even able to de facto write their own rules to not follow is why you never see me anymore.

And yet, here you are.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't care what color their skin is, if the government is using my tax dollars to import particular individuals here and they are socialist at almost double the rate of natives and voting for more leftist policies and to take more of my money, then that is a concern.

Well said.

[r3volution 3.0]

I don't care what color their skin is, if the government is using my tax dollars to import particular individuals here and they are socialist at almost double the rate of natives and voting for more leftist policies and to take more of my money, then that is a concern.

Which candidate did you vote for on November 8th?

The one who supports expanding the welfare state, or the one who supports expanding the welfare state?

[Swordsmyth]

Which candidate did you vote for on November 8th?

The one who supports expanding the welfare state, or the one who supports expanding the welfare state?

It is fairly obvious that he voted for the candidate who promised to cut down on the flood of socialist barbarians, whose arrival would guarantee our descent into communism.

I wrote in Ron Paul.

[r3volution 3.0]

It is fairly obvious that he voted for the candidate who promised to cut down on the flood of socialist barbarians, whose arrival would guarantee our descent into communism.

Yes, it's obvious that he voted for the candidate who supports expanding the welfare state.

Hence the absurdity of his previous statement.

I wrote in Ron Paul.

I voted LP - marginally more effective use of my 1/130,000,000th share's voting right - but tomato tomahto.

[Swordsmyth]

I voted LP - marginally more effective use of my 1/130,000,000th share's voting right - but tomato tomahto.

GJ was no better than Dump, and Weld was a disaster.

[dannno]

Which candidate did you vote for on November 8th?

The one who supports expanding the welfare state, or the one who supports expanding the welfare state?

Which one is Gary Johnson?

[r3volution 3.0]

GJ was no better than Dump, and Weld was a disaster.

Johnson was vastly better than Dump, but I was voting for the party, to enhance name recognition, not the candidate.

[dannno]

It is fairly obvious that he voted for the candidate who promised to cut down on the flood of socialist barbarians, whose arrival would guarantee our descent into communism.

I wrote in Ron Paul.

I wanted to write in Rand Paul, but I voted for Gary Johnson. Trump was looking good but I still thought he may have been a psy-op. Once he won and the media kept attacking him relentlessly, I began supporting him a lot more. Before that I would just argue for him when he was right and CPUd was being a tool, and against him when he was wrong.

[dannno]

Johnson was vastly better than Dump, but I was voting for the party, to enhance name recognition, not the candidate.

Ya me too.

[r3volution 3.0]

Which one is Gary Johnson?

He's the one who doesn't support socialized medicine, bank bailouts, money printing, invading Libya, the PATRIOT Act, and eminent domain.

Ya me too.

The candidate you voted for had a chance of winning, and the GOP represents nothing at all. So, no, that doesn't make sense.

You voted for the candidate, because he got your panties aflutter with his nationalist rhetoric.

[dannno]

He's the one who doesn't support socialized medicine, bank bailouts, money printing, invading Libya, the PATRIOT Act, and eminent domain.

Ya that's why I voted for him, well mostly because of the libertarian party 5% he kinda screwed up his candidacy.

[r3volution 3.0]

Ya that's why I voted for him

You voted for Dump in spite of all that, because of the aforementioned nationalism-induced panty fluttering.

[dannno]

You voted for Dump in spite of all that, because of the aforementioned nationalism-induced panty fluttering.

No, I voted for Gary Johnson. That's like the fourth time I've said that just in this thread.

[r3volution 3.0]

No, I voted for Gary Johnson. That's like the fourth time I've said that just in this thread.

O, I misunderstood you.

Which candidate did you vote for on November 8th?

The one who supports expanding the welfare state, or the one who supports expanding the welfare state?

Which one is Gary Johnson?

I also find that hard to believe, but I guess I'll take your word for it.

...unless you're Messicun.

...Messicuns lie.

...you aren't Messicun are you?

[Ron Paul in 2008]

I just saw a video the other day on what's been happening in South Africa. And I agree that for whatever reason, certain groups don't seem to be able to form a relatively free country. But I think the flaw is in democracy not race. Look at the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. I think the fundamental flaw is 1 man 1 vote. That's a huge flaw in the system when someone who contributes millions in tax revenue has an equal vote as someone who is a net parasite. I don't believe any amount of checks and balances can prevent socialism from eventually taking over in a 1 man 1 vote system. Only net contributors should be allowed to vote.

I will think about this.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Most libertarians I know are pushing the ideology of self-ownership and and the weakening of central government. Didn't realize this was Stalinist. Vielen Dank mein freund.

They ignore the elephant in the room. The libertarians I have issue with probably agree with a globalist system like Bill Clinton and the NWO goons.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

And you are a perfect example of just such a stooge.

Because I support global government and the NWO? THe far left elites hate racists like me. They don't fear people with your beliefs.

You cannot be "pro-white" and be a libertarian.

Tell that to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

But for the sake of discussion, will you elaborate?

"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea.

I dislike that libertarians reject beliefs because of certain negative buzzwords like "collectivist." Most libertarians are too selfish and are not nationalistic. They only care about themselves and have an attitude of $#@! everybody else and the group to which they belong.

You see people in group. A civil libertarian like myself sees everybody as an important individual. It's not the color of their skin that is important." -Ron Paul

Racists like myself are individualists. I don't disagree here.

Libertarianism protects human rights. Every human has the same equal rights.

Yep.

When you favor one group over another with government power you are granting more power to that group and violating the human rights of other.

I don't know if I want to "favor" a group. The only argument you can make is that I want to favor white immigrants, but only because racially homogenous countries are better and this prevents racial problems like we have in diverse countries like the USA.

Racism of any stripe is the opposite of libertarianism because libertarianism believes in universal equal human rights and individualism.

You're all wrong here. The only people who want to take away rights are the leftists. If anything racism is about preserving our country from threats and upholding our rights.

Racism is collectivist and wants to use government to grant certain powers and privileges to some at the expense of others.

How so? In what way?

You know what does play into the agenda of the rich and powerful? Dividing an ignorant population that could overwhelm the elites with the merest of efforts. It is easier to control 300 million people when they're too busy fighting each other instead of you. How is this accomplished? By promulgating idiot ideas to get the masses to hate each other over.

If anything racism just keeps groups separated and prevents hate. Forcing groups that hate each other together is not good. Do you believe if groups are separated there would be hatred in each group?

Make up stupid reasons to make some of them hate the others and play them against each other. Nationalism and racism work perfectly for this cause because even the most simple-minded can understand them, "Not- 'Murica bad! Not white bad! Give President power to protect 'Murica!"

The fact that people don't understands your brand of libertarianism shows its probably not true. I really do believe that if libertarians didn't ignore the elephant in the room on this issue they would have more electoral success. Why do you think Rand Pauly got at most 5 percent of the vote and Trump completely dominated him?

It is such a slave mentality that you would think any semi-intelligent person would see through it. But there you go.

Props for explaining your beliefs.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Beat me by about .5 seconds!

+rep

I would think this is a simple concept.

You are free to advocate for your "white America" all you want, as racist as it is. But don't for a minute try to equate that position with anything even remotely akin to individual liberty and freedom.... You have some learnin to do, kid.

Congrats. You don't even know my positions. You have learnin' to do, sonny.

[Madison320]

Johnson was vastly better than Dump, but I was voting for the party, to enhance name recognition, not the candidate.

100% agree. I'm still confused that so many people in this forum could think Trump as equal to Johnson. Johnson is obviously not the ideal libertarian but compared to Trump???

I argued many times that during the campaign Johnson probably tried to sound more mainstream than he really was and Trump tried to sound more libertarian than he really was, just to attract votes. Obviously I was right, at least for Trump.