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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You convinced me. Tariffs are wonderful and create millions of jobs. Nobody gets hurt.
    Guns save lives too.
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  3. #62
    It isn't over yet, they are still laboring under the delusion that we will fold if they bluff.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  4. #63
    So we ramp up ours. You haven't heard a single country say that the refuse to sell to us. Have you? These are just weak counter moves. The US is THE LARGEST CONSUMER NATION on the face of the earth. These are just face saving measures. But, they'll come in line during trade negotiations.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    So we ramp up ours. You haven't heard a single country say that the refuse to sell to us. Have you? These are just weak counter moves. The US is THE LARGEST CONSUMER NATION on the face of the earth. These are just face saving measures. But, they'll come in line during trade negotiations.
    Like NAFTA which involves tariff targets Mexico and Canada?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us...ons-2018-05-31

    U.S. tariffs only add to the obstacles for Nafta negotiations

    Experts say Canada, Mexico unlikely to make concessions

    The Trump administration’s decision to impose steel and aluminum tariffs against allies Canada and Mexico throws the latest wrench into talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, which started last year and had already hit roadblocks in May.

    Rather than forcing Canada and Mexico into concessions on Nafta, analysts say, the tariff move is likely to strengthen Canada’s and Mexico’s resolve to not back down on unconventional U.S. demands for Nafta, such as the elimination of international panels to resolve trade disputes and a new clause under which the pact would expire if not explicitly renewed every five years.

    The U.S. “may see this as a cost-free way of applying additional pressure. But the result will be the opposite,” said Gordon Ritchie, a former Canadian ambassador for trade negotiations.

    He and other analysts say the tariffs put further trade-pact negotiations against a backdrop of ill-will and a widespread trade skirmish, none of which bodes well for a resolution to the Nafta stalemate.



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Like NAFTA which involves tariff targets Mexico and Canada?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us...ons-2018-05-31
    Bull$#@! posturing. You still aren't getting it. But, progressives rarely do. Just sit back, get off your computer and relax. Everything is gonna be better than alright. Certainly better than under Obama.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Like NAFTA which involves tariff targets Mexico and Canada?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us...ons-2018-05-31
    NAFTA needs to die, we can cut a deal with each country one at a time after they accept that we aren't their patsy anymore.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Bull$#@! posturing. You still aren't getting it. But, progressives rarely do. Just sit back, get off your computer and relax. Everything is gonna be better than alright. Certainly better than under Obama.
    All hail King Trump! Ruler of the World! Everybody should bow down to Me!

    Ask not what Trump can do for you- ask what you can do for Trump! (or we will impose tariffs/ sanctions on you!)
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-11-2018 at 07:56 PM.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    All hail King Trump! Ruler of the World! Everybody should bow down to Me!

    Ask not what Trump can do for you- ask what you can do for Trump! (or we will impose tariffs/ sanctions on you!)
    Knew it was only a matter of time before your progressive EMOTIONS trumped your progressive tactics. Carry on.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Knew it was only a matter of time before your progressive EMOTIONS trumped your progressive tactics. Carry on.
    Whenever they are losing the argument they switch to emotions.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Knew it was only a matter of time before your progressive EMOTIONS trumped your progressive tactics. Carry on.
    So what deals has Trump actually negotiated to completion as President? The Great Negotiator? He has ended several. So far he has shown better skill at tearing things down than building them up.

    What countries have "caved in" to his demands since he began to threaten sanctions?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-11-2018 at 08:06 PM.

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So what deals has Trump actually negotiated to completion as President? The Great Negotiator? He has ended several. So far he has shown better skill at tearing things down than building them up.
    Tearing things down isn't a good thing? Shaking things up? Probably better a status-quo president like Hillary, amirite? Six months in. Only a beginning. The omelet is not yet made but the eggs are getting broken. Better find a safe space, Zippy. More than likely, if things keep going as they are, you've got another 7.5 years of Trump rage ahead of you. It'll wear you down and burn you out.
    And the truth of the matter is I don't much care for him. But, I've learned to let it go. It's better than the status-quo. He's actually created a rift in America that has been long festering. Progressivism is at an end. And that, in and of itself, is a good thing.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    See? You don't understand $#@!. They will capitulate. They HAVE NO CHOICE. Lol. You just don't get it. Has any country threatened a boycott of ours over tariffs? NO. They know where their bread is buttered.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Tearing things down isn't a good thing? Shaking things up? Probably better a status-quo president like Hillary, amirite? Six months in. Only a beginning. The omelet is not yet made but the eggs are getting broken. Better find a safe space, Zippy. More than likely, if things keep going as they are, you've got another 7.5 years of Trump rage ahead of you. It'll wear you down and burn you out.
    And the truth of the matter is I don't much care for him. But, I've learned to let it go. It's better than the status-quo. He's actually created a rift in America that has been long festering. Progressivism is at an end. And that, in and of itself, is a good thing.
    18 months, but you are correct anyway.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    US imports from China totaled $115.6 billion in 2016 and their GDP is $11.2 trillion. Their exports to us are about one percent of their GDP. They would weather a trade war better than we would.

    Trade wars are the proverbial cutting off your nose to spite your face. You hurt yourself as much as the other guy.
    Where does the rest of their GDP come from? Same BS as ours?

  18. #75
    Nice job everybody.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Where does the rest of their GDP come from? Same BS as ours?
    Ghost cities.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    18 months, but you are correct anyway.
    Thanks for the correction. Between my mom's stroke in Dec. and the uptick in work because people are spending now I've lost track. I've raised my cash price this year 30% and nobody has blinked. I've had two days off in the last 20. Don't know what Trump is doing but he's got something moving along. It's much better than under Obama.

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