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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Valid point, but I can pull up hundreds of others, of much higher accuracy, that show that women prefer more government than men do.

    That's not a disputable fact.

    So instead of getting angry at me for pointing out the obvious, perhaps some introspection, as a woman, into why this is so, is in order.
    Its because life is easier for most women. They don't have to work as hard to have a good life, because they rely on men to provide for them to some degree or another.

    Every woman in this country has at some point accepted free $#@! from men trying to get laid. Every. Single. One.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Its because life is easier for most women. They don't have to work as hard to have a good life, because they rely on men to provide for them to some degree or another.

    Every woman in this country has at some point accepted free $#@! from men trying to get laid. Every. Single. One.
    It is a natural part of the female psyche to look to be cared for by someone stronger than them and it is far too easy to get them to look to government instead of a husband.
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  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Its because life is easier for most women. They don't have to work as hard to have a good life, because they rely on men to provide for them to some degree or another.

    Every woman in this country has at some point accepted free $#@! from men trying to get laid. Every. Single. One.
    All true for me. Hell, I've made a living off accepting $#@! off men trying to get laid.

    I've noticed women and men but women especially are being sold socialism in the press. If you google women in socialism, you get a ton of results about how great it is for women and if you google women in capitalism, you still get a bunch of articles about how great socialism is for for women. o_O WTF? We need more gynocentric laissez faire capitalism writers out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Women in general fall prey to the emotional manipulation tactics more than men. Having said that, there's a lot of men that are just as easily emotionally manipulated. The difference is the tools used to manipulate. A picture of a suffering child will make the average woman support whatever they are told will make the child stop suffering. A picture of a soldier with a flag will make the average man support whatever they are told will Make America Great Again. So many easily emotionally manipulated people...



    That is the kinda funny part of all of this. We aren't flirting with socialism. It's here and it's been here for 90 years. Most people don't know it but the communist manifesto has already been enacted almost fully already, with the finishing touches in the works. Now, the implementors just want people to openly accept what's already been in place for a long time, but with more overt police state measures that accompany socialist policies. Social security? It's got "social" right in the title. Property ownership? That was abolished a long time ago. No one legally owns anything in this country. We are granted usage rights but that's it. Media and communication is fully controlled and what isn't is being stamped out as I write this. Private transportation is being phased out per Agenda 21 2030 mandates for autonomous cars and dense urban development. Politicians are fully controlled. Income tax and economic centralization...obvious...nuff said there. Inheritance abolition. Less and less is being passed down between generations lately as sky high elderly healthcare costs and things like reverse mortgages eat up all of what would be inherited.

    Describes it pretty well:
    http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html
    ^^^THIS^^^
    There is no spoon.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Women in general fall prey to the emotional manipulation tactics more than men. Having said that, there's a lot of men that are just as easily emotionally manipulated. The difference is the tools used to manipulate. A picture of a suffering child will make the average woman support whatever they are told will make the child stop suffering. A picture of a soldier with a flag will make the average man support whatever they are told will Make America Great Again. So many easily emotionally manipulated people...



    That is the kinda funny part of all of this. We aren't flirting with socialism. It's here and it's been here for 90 years. Most people don't know it but the communist manifesto has already been enacted almost fully already, with the finishing touches in the works. Now, the implementors just want people to openly accept what's already been in place for a long time, but with more overt police state measures that accompany socialist policies. Social security? It's got "social" right in the title. Property ownership? That was abolished a long time ago. No one legally owns anything in this country. We are granted usage rights but that's it. Media and communication is fully controlled and what isn't is being stamped out as I write this. Private transportation is being phased out per Agenda 21 2030 mandates for autonomous cars and dense urban development. Politicians are fully controlled. Income tax and economic centralization...obvious...nuff said there. Inheritance abolition. Less and less is being passed down between generations lately as sky high elderly healthcare costs and things like reverse mortgages eat up all of what would be inherited.

    Describes it pretty well:
    http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html

    ^^ This should be a THREAD of its own ^^ Would you be so kind?
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ^^ This should be a THREAD of its own ^^ Would you be so kind?
    I could probably write a tome on that topic, about how the legal system has been used to enact a practically fully Marxist society right under everyone's noses since the Civil War (which was purposely fomented for that exact reason). Americans spend a lot of time lying to themselves about just how socialist/communist/Marxist we already are and have been for a relatively long time. I'll throw up a quick thread starter for now and link it.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I could probably write a tome on that topic, about how the legal system has been used to enact a practically fully Marxist society right under everyone's noses since the Civil War (which was purposely fomented for that exact reason). Americans spend a lot of time lying to themselves about just how socialist/communist/Marxist we already are and have been for a relatively long time. I'll throw up a quick thread starter for now and link it.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to devil21 again.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Women in general fall prey to the emotional manipulation tactics more than men. Having said that, there's a lot of men that are just as easily emotionally manipulated. The difference is the tools used to manipulate. A picture of a suffering child will make the average woman support whatever they are told will make the child stop suffering. A picture of a soldier with a flag will make the average man support whatever they are told will Make America Great Again. So many easily emotionally manipulated people...



    That is the kinda funny part of all of this. We aren't flirting with socialism. It's here and it's been here for 90 years. Most people don't know it but the communist manifesto has already been enacted almost fully already, with the finishing touches in the works. Now, the implementors just want people to openly accept what's already been in place for a long time, but with more overt police state measures that accompany socialist policies. Social security? It's got "social" right in the title. Property ownership? That was abolished a long time ago. No one legally owns anything in this country. We are granted usage rights but that's it. Media and communication is fully controlled and what isn't is being stamped out as I write this. Private transportation is being phased out per Agenda 21 2030 mandates for autonomous cars and dense urban development. Politicians are fully controlled. Income tax and economic centralization...obvious...nuff said there. Inheritance abolition. Less and less is being passed down between generations lately as sky high elderly healthcare costs and things like reverse mortgages eat up all of what would be inherited.

    Describes it pretty well:
    http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html
    And of course, another excellent example of emotional manipulation is collectivist labelling and name calling. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a "socialist", "leftist", "communist", etc is an emotional manipulation used to suppress dissent. Always referring to immigrants as "invaders", "socialists", etc is an emotional manipulation used to attempt getting people to accept fear and hate. How often does this occur here on RPF? Who is attempting this sort of emotional manipulation here, and why?
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  12. #70
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
    Freedom is the ability to kill your baby after it is born because his father is a rapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Freedom is the ability to kill your baby after it is born because his father is a rapist.
    As opposed to killing living and independent innocent people because they threaten your "freedom". If I had to choose between people who wanna kill their own offspring and the people who wanna kill other people and destroy their property with bombs, I know who I'll choose.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    As opposed to killing living and independent innocent people because they threaten your "freedom". If I had to choose between people who wanna kill their own offspring and the people who wanna kill other people and destroy their property with bombs, I know who I'll choose.
    You act like those are mutually exclusive groups. Newsflash. Hillary Clinton supported the New York post birth abortion law, the Iraq war, the ongoing Afghanistan war, the war/regime change in Libya and the attempted war/regime change in Syria.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You act like those are mutually exclusive groups. Newsflash. Hillary Clinton supported the New York post birth abortion law, the Iraq war, the ongoing Afghanistan war, the war/regime change in Libya and the attempted war/regime change in Syria.
    But Hillary is not the typical liberal pro choice citizen. My guess is that most people who are pro choice are also against for example the Iraq war. This cannot be said for the majority of the pro life republicans who worship the military.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But Hillary is not the typical liberal pro choice citizen. My guess is that most people who are pro choice are also against for example the Iraq war. This cannot be said for the majority of the pro life republicans who worship the military.
    Respecting the military isn't the same as wanting to kill foreigners, Republicans have to be sold a bill of goods about terrorists or evil dictators or threats to Americans, Demoncrats want to kill children for the convenience.

    I know which view of human life I find more evil.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    As opposed to killing living and independent innocent people because they threaten your "freedom". If I had to choose between people who wanna kill their own offspring and the people who wanna kill other people and destroy their property with bombs, I know who I'll choose.
    How about neither?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But Hillary is not the typical liberal pro choice citizen. My guess is that most people who are pro choice are also against for example the Iraq war. This cannot be said for the majority of the pro life republicans who worship the military.
    Key words "my guess is." In other words, you don't know. And I don't see the relevance of your point anyway. Correlation != causation. More Democrats were on board for Obama's regime change in Libya and Syria than were republicans. Democrats supported Bill Clinton's regime change war in Bosnia, for "humanitarian" reasons of course. Obama greatly expanded AFRICOM because....it's for the children. (Remember the Michelle Obama "bring back our girls" campaign?) And Jimmy Carter started secretly funding the mujahadeen in Afghanistan for the sole purpose of drawing the Soviet Union into a war it could not win. JFK and LBJ got us into Vietnam and Nixon got us out. Truman got us into Korea. Roosevelt's embargo of Japan let to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Woodrow Wilson's violation of neutrality was the incentive for the German U-boat attacks that got us into World War I. And the unfair treatment of Germany in the treaty of Versailles set the stage for the rise of national socialist Adolf Hitler. (Yes Hitler was actually socialist. It was Mussolini who was the fascist.) So no. I don't accept as true your assertion that Republicans are more likely to bomb people for no good reason than are democrats. It was my realization of this truth that caused me to leave the democratic party.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Respecting the military isn't the same as wanting to kill foreigners, Republicans have to be sold a bill of goods about terrorists or evil dictators or threats to Americans, Demoncrats want to kill children for the convenience.

    I know which view of human life I find more evil.
    Democrats are just as likely to bomb innocent people to stop "evil dictators" as are Republicans. The murder of Qaddafi happened under Obama's watch at at the insistence of Hillary Clinton.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Democrats are just as likely to bomb innocent people to stop "evil dictators" as are Republicans. The murder of Qaddafi happened under Obama's watch at at the insistence of Hillary Clinton.
    Just as likely or more likely.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #80
    Despite some arguments here that America is already a socialist country, which do have some valid points, the essential pillars of socialism have not been executed yet.

    Total welfare : possible
    Forced social ownership of private companies : won't happen

    But with all of the active censorship occurring in social media of conservative personalities going on, it appears the left is terrified of the "other side" of America learning the truth.
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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Government is required to protect the rights of individuals and it is much better to have a government in which people have a say by voting than one in which the rulers are not held responsible.
    All "government" does is violate the rights of the individual. None of the rulers are ever held responsible. "Government" exists to make it as hard as possible to hold any of the sociopaths in power to account. The most prolific mass murders in history have held the Presidential chair to general acclaim. Your "say" is meaningless.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Despite some arguments here that America is already a socialist country, which do have some valid points, the essential pillars of socialism have not been executed yet.

    Total welfare : possible
    Forced social ownership of private companies : won't happen

    But with all of the active censorship occurring in social media of conservative personalities going on, it appears the left is terrified of the "other side" of America learning the truth.
    Most "conservatives" are socialist-lite, at best. What was it Reagan called himself? A New Deal Democrat? That means a disciple of the socialist FDR. And Reagan's followers have been even worse.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Democrats are just as likely to bomb innocent people to stop "evil dictators" as are Republicans. The murder of Qaddafi happened under Obama's watch at at the insistence of Hillary Clinton.
    There is no difference between the parties.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    All "government" does is violate the rights of the individual. None of the rulers are ever held responsible. "Government" exists to make it as hard as possible to hold any of the sociopaths in power to account. The most prolific mass murders in history have held the Presidential chair to general acclaim. Your "say" is meaningless.
    You will always have sociopaths and they will create governments designed to facilitate their depredations if good people don't create governments designed to restrain them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    There is no difference between the parties.
    That's a fallacy designed to get people to allow the worst people to take power.

    That seems to be what everything you say is designed to facilitate.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But Hillary is not the typical liberal pro choice citizen. My guess is that most people who are pro choice are also against for example the Iraq war. This cannot be said for the majority of the pro life republicans who worship the military.
    What people say is meaningless compared to what they do. They aren't against wars, just Republicans.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You will always have sociopaths and they will create governments designed to facilitate their depredations if good people don't create governments designed to restrain them.
    No good person would ever seek such power and if they did would never be elected. Government exists to rob, maim, rape, and murder. It is its entire purpose. Government exists to eliminate the restraints on individuals that prevents them from raping, maiming, robbing, and murdering others.
    Last edited by PierzStyx; 07-08-2019 at 01:30 AM.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    There is no difference between the parties.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's a fallacy designed to get people to allow the worst people to take power.

    That seems to be what everything you say is designed to facilitate.
    A system designed to allow people to "take power" is the worst system designed.

    The worst people are those who want the office. If the system is designed to get them into office it is therefore the worst system designed.

    There are no differences between the parties. None of them are pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-markets, pro-freedom, pro-humanity. They all are power hungry warmongering authoritarian sociopaths.

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    You sure are timosman, you sure are.

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