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The U.S. meddles, invades, blames others, then washes its hands. Rinse, repeat.
The U.S. solution? Make it even worse while abandoning freedom and liberty at taxpayer cost.
But then, only those who understand and abide by the NAP would understand that.
@PAF well that settles it, because of past corrupt politicians and corporations that I didn't vote for or have any influence over we have to give up our sovereignty, I must be responsible just because of my skin color, no borders no wall no usa at all, my kids that will have it worse off than me surely they will understand.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
I do not support ANY money toward any wall whatsoever. It opposes the NAP. Walter Block made crystal clear private property rights and homesteading land rights. This out of hand corrupt government will do anything to expand its reach by way of BLM and Eminent Domain.
If private property owners wish to build a wall on their own land, let them build it on their own dime.
Yes, it is a corrupt government. But you do not feed and grow government, by way of taxpayer money, BLM, Eminent Domain, thereby reducing freedom and liberty, hoping that it will increase freedom and liberty.
The statists way has not worked in hundreds of years. You must make a choice - either work toward liberty, or keep the cabal moving ahead until we have nothing left.
I am more concerned about this corrupt government than I am a few thousand immigrants who were forced to flee because of U.S. corrupt foreign policy.
Last edited by spudea; 12-27-2018 at 09:20 AM.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
How do you have a coup without willing participants?
NAP man, that was the choice of Hondurans to go along with American-backed coups.
Most of those countries were socialist governments anyway.
The coup in Chile was orchestrated by the so called "Chicago School", which saw Allende as the direct opposite of free markets.
What about all the Chileans that wanted a free market, and were opposed to Allende? They chose the American interference, and greeted it with open arms.
Last edited by UWDude; 12-27-2018 at 10:21 AM.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
More collective guilt propaganda.
I will not pay for the sins of the oligarchs nor will I condemn future generations to do so.
The oligarchs caused the problem and now they want to weaponize it against us, open borders advocates are helping the oligarchs with their next crime.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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I will not pay for the sins of the oligarchs nor will I condemn future generations to do so.
The oligarchs caused the problem and now they want to weaponize it against us, Berlin Wall advocates helping the oligarchs in their next crime in taking control over private property and public land utilizing Eminent Domain.
I have never known this government to do anything good to the people or for the people. This government grows like cancer, here and abroad. It opposes individual freedom and liberty. Unless one is mentally challenged, so to speak, or resides on a different planet, it should be completely known and obvious, certainly by now.
Last edited by PAF; 12-27-2018 at 01:39 PM.
The oligarchs want open borders.
You are helping them.
The rest of the world has even less belief in liberty than America does, if we allow them all to come here they will make us less free than we are.
Come talk to me about open borders when you have converted the rest of the world to libertarianism.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
We need to do some more educating around here to get people to stop using the word "sovereignty" as a euphemism for statism.
The kind of sovereignty that we believe in here is the sovereignty of each individual. And such sovereignty that any government can rightfully have can only be what is delegated to it from sovereign individuals. This kind of government stands below the people it serves in sovereignty, not above them.
Those who equate sovereignty with immigration restriction, such that the regime stands above the people and has ultimate sovereignty of its own, are talking about the diametric opposite of what we here support. Their top-down view of governance ultimately becomes the very global government they pretend to be against.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
We have open borders between the states here in the US, ask AF how that worked our for the Free State project, ask any of the states overwhelmed by deranged leftists from California or NY about it.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
This is a helpful post.
I can't imagine thinking that imposing the kind of immigration control you support for the USA on each individual state in regulating commerce from other states having a net positive effect on anything. But to be consistent you have to think so.
This is the kind of leviathan state the immigration restrictionists really idealize.
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