View Poll Results: What statement lines up the best with your thoughts on pizzagate?

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  • No, not at all.

    4 7.84%
  • Half truth, minor persons mentioned might be pedophiles. No evidence.

    5 9.80%
  • True, higher up people are complicit in rape, murder of children. Podestas, clintons, Obama.

    27 52.94%
  • True, only way to get to the top in the west. 90% of our elite are murderous satanic pedophiles.

    8 15.69%
  • I don't know, I don't care, Too tired of conspiracies.

    7 13.73%
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Thread: Do you believe in the pizzagate scandal?

  1. #1

    Do you believe in the pizzagate scandal?

    If you are not aware what pizzagate is please read up here before voting in the poll.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...phile-Sex-Ring



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  3. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by fatjohn View Post
    If you are not aware what pizzagate is please read up here before voting in the poll.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...phile-Sex-Ring
    ummmm.... Mr. Engineer, did you forget to add the poll?

  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    ummmm.... Mr. Engineer, did you forget to add the poll?
    Was busy with it...

  5. #4
    I didn't like all of the poll options, but I'm inclined to believe there is some truth there. Comet Ping Pong, Majestic Ape, all of the strange photos and comments were all discovered precisely because of some of the strange Podesta e-mails that appeared to be code speak.
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  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I didn't like all of the poll options, but I'm inclined to believe there is some truth there. Comet Ping Pong, Majestic Ape, all of the strange photos and comments were all discovered precisely because of some of the strange Podesta e-mails that appeared to be code speak.
    Sorry about that. You only have 100 characters to express an opinion. I tried to range it false, semi-true, true and true plus more.
    I like to see how close to a critical mass this is getting. I for one can't seem to logically say that james alefantis might have pedo tendencies but that the buck stops there. There are just too much coincidences to be coincidences.

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  8. #7
    I vote for more pepperoni!

    http://heatst.com/politics/internet-...piracy-theory/

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3723141/wha...ring-debunked/

    From: John Podesta [mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:03 PM
    To: Tony Podesta <podesta@podesta.com>
    Subject: Re: Hillary pizza party April 10

    Should work.

    On Wednesday, March 9, 2016, Tony Podesta <podesta@podesta.com<mailtoodesta@podesta.com>> wrote:

    John --

    Hosting pizza party at Belmont for HFA on April 10.

    Maya Harris is joining, but need you.

    Can you come?

    Thanks much,

    Tony
    Sometimes a pizza party is just a pizza party. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/42458

    "Kiddie porn" artworks on the walls of Comet Ping Pong:


    the "ping pong" room:



    The bar area:


    https://www.google.com/search?q=Come...u2DCl-xv85M%3A
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-21-2016 at 05:59 PM.

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    According to some "reports" there is supposedly some Haitian NGO offices across the street. Google Maps shows a gas station, a mini- mart, a hair salon, a "bodyworks studio", and a couple restaurant plus a bank. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...!4d-77.0699666



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  11. #9
    No idea, no way to know. I suspect there is a fire somewhere behind all that smoke but it could be a lot less than we have been led to believe or it could be a lot worse than we have been led to believe. At this point I suspect 'better' or 'worse' is a coin toss. I don't think I have an appropriate poll option.

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I didn't like all of the poll options, but I'm inclined to believe there is some truth there. Comet Ping Pong, Majestic Ape, all of the strange photos and comments were all discovered precisely because of some of the strange Podesta e-mails that appeared to be code speak.
    ^^^ This. Too many coincidences at this point to say it's just some internet conspiracy. I tried hard to convince myself that it wasn't real.

  13. #11
    Undoubtedly, (and documentedly), there are pedophiles in power. But I spent way to much time looking at the pizzagate "evidence" and couldn't find myself very convinced. The biggest problem is that so much is being hung on interpreting the Podesta emails with retro-fitted "code words," which, absent a source or citations, are plumbed from the what-if musings of somebody reading the Wikileaks.

    I suppose there are a few people rigorously researching the pizzagate stuff because they want to save some children from abuse. All of the people I've seen who are truly obsessed with it are more interested in incriminating libs (only Democrats are discussed) than saving kids.

    And I fear that way too many of the pizzagate obsessives are hoping for the wrong reason that some really juicy vids will get posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    The biggest problem is that so much is being hung on interpreting the Podesta emails with retro-fitted "code words," which, absent a source or citations, are plumbed from the what-if musings of somebody reading the WikiLeaks.
    Actually, the retro-fitting argument is untrue. It was those curious e-mails that led to the discovery of:

    -Comet Ping Pong.
    -James Alefantis' Instagrams containing children and comments with sexual innuendo (nothing he said was normal).
    -Amanda Kleinman (a/k/a Majestic Ape) and the band Heavy Breathing, which contains lyrics and artwork with pedophile innuendo, not to mention the YouTube video in which he is at Comet Ping Pong.
    -Portuguese police sketches that look similar to the Podesta brothers.
    -Artwork in Tony Podesta's house that has pedophile innuendo and a sculpture that channels Jeffrey Dahmer crime scene photos.
    -The use of pedophile symbols straight from an FBI unclassified document used by Comet Ping Pong, Besta Pizza, and Politics and Prose, all of which are within the same vicinity.
    -Alefantis and Kleinman responding to the conspiracy theory by claiming to be the victims of white nationalism, anti-semitism, etc., but no reasonable explanation for their strange behavior.

    I was skeptical at first, but there is a lot of smoke there, and everything discovered is outside the realm of normal, especially for people who are within the inner circle of government (or so one would presume). That said, some of the speculations can go off the rails, and I highly doubt most government officials are involved.

    I would certainly like a reasonable explanation for what the following means:

    -A handkerchief with a map that is pizza-related (WTF?).
    -Whether it is easier to play dominoes on cheese or on pasta (WTF?).

    Finally, the largest smoking gun: Many conversations about pizza, but not one argument about pizza toppings. I've never ordered a pizza with other people without having to spend ten minutes arguing and negotiating.
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  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I vote for more pepperoni!
    Obviously, they aren't going to blatantly advertise the fact that they run a pedophile ring (assuming it's true), so the pizza joint aspect is a "legitimate" front.
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  16. #14
    I am a big skeptic of many of the so-called "conspiracy theories" subscribed to on this forum. I think Adam Lanza shot 20 something kids at Sandy Hook and that Osama Bin Laden planned 9/11 in response to US foreign policy and radical ideology.

    But I voted the 2nd option. I really think it's somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd, though. I think there is evidence of a fairly wide ranging group involved in something shady involving children. The pedophile logos at the pizza place and elsewhere, the BEYOND creepy paintings (though, not all the paintings have been confirmed to be connected to anyone), the videos from 2007 on youtube of people playing ping pong outside with the sound of children screaming...


    One half my brain is telling me this is crazy. The other half sees it clearly. Humans are known to see patterns where there aren't any, but damn, it's REALLY fishy.
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  17. #15
    All the "facts" and links are coming from conspiracy sites. Look hard enough and you can probably come up with ways to connect Ron and Rand Paul to the whole thing too. They have probably been in a pizza parlor at some point in time.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-22-2016 at 01:45 PM.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    All the "facts" and links are coming from conspiracy sites. Look hard enough and you can probably come up with ways to connect Ron and Rand Paul to the whole thing too.
    Quite right. The facts came from conspiracy sites such as WikiLeaks, John Podesta's e-mail, Reddit, Instagram photos with Alefanti's comments, YouTube videos of Heavy Breathing, the FBI's own documents describing common symbolism among pedophiles, Comet Ping Pong's own website with "Friends" section showing Heavy Breathing and their innuendo-laden content, etc.

    To be fair, I might not have believed it myself if I didn't spend hours following the progression of everything, and seeing how the new discoveries unfolded.

    Please tell us what playing dominoes on cheese or pasta means, or what a handkerchief with a map that appears to be pizza-related means. They're obviously not going to talk about raping kids via e-mail (I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they're not that stupid. Or how about James Alefantis' Instagram comments in which children were in the photos? None of those comments are normal for a grown man, heterosexual or homosexual. At the very least, I think it would be worth an actual investigation.
    Last edited by Philhelm; 11-21-2016 at 08:09 PM.
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  20. #17
    Well I think the mapping of the hivemind of rpf has taken place a bit. The story seems to be too damning and too coincidental to be written of as just a loose hypothesis. I think this should give us more confidence to start sharing it with others. You are unlikely to be viewed as the tinfoil hatter.

    Obviously I made an error by not having an option "i do not quite know what to make of it' instead of throwing it in with don't care and conspiracy fatigue.

    In the future it might be nice to start a thread with asking for input for poll options prior to setting up a poll. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    All the "facts" and links are coming from conspiracy sites. Look hard enough and you can probably come up with ways to connect Ron and Rand Paul to the whole thing too. They have probably been in a pizza parlor at some point in time.
    You are spreading bald faced lies.

    To anyone who has eyes to see, there is (or was, but there are archives) child pornography (stylized modern "art") hosted on multiple Comet-linked websites, and Instagram pages.

    Of course, that is only the beginning of the rabbit hole, enter if you will.
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    Remember guys, it's illegal to read these emails and watch fake news. CNN has got us covered.
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  23. #20
    Has anyone put together a good email to introduce people slowly into it already? If so please pm or post.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I vote for more pepperoni!

    Sometimes a pizza party is just a pizza party.
    Uh dude the actual public restaurant isn't the problem. (Outside of the strategic holes in the wall)
    It is the hidden rooms around the place. Did you actually think they are going to do anything indecent with customers actually coming in? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatjohn View Post
    Has anyone put together a good email to introduce people slowly into it already? If so please pm or post.
    Please, help. My current one isn't working. Two girls have already blocked me on tinder for trying to red pill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athan View Post
    Uh dude the actual public restaurant isn't the problem. (Outside of the strategic holes in the wall)
    It is the hidden rooms around the place. Did you actually think they are going to do anything indecent with customers actually coming in? lol
    There isn't exactly a lot of footage to the place for "hidden rooms". https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...699666!6m1!1e1

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    so reddit closed down pizzagate... ...but they still allow for a subreddit called "pedofriends" which is there to normalize pedophilia.



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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    so reddit closed down pizzagate... ...but they still allow for a subreddit called "pedofriends" which is there to normalize pedophilia.
    Fvckers.
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    There are two pedo subreddits, I will not visit them, but it seems they are full of m4f adds... guys looking for women also interested in their "sexual preference"

    Also lets not forget, women and men caught for pedophilia and molestation are about 50/50. Women are pedophiles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    There isn't exactly a lot of footage to the place for "hidden rooms". https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...699666!6m1!1e1
    There is footage, however, of an underground cellar affectionately named "the kill room." And that's only what the owner had the balls to post online.
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    Here is a documentary by the Discovery Channel, filmed in 1993. It was never aired, because it started to uncover a giant pedo-ring in the halls of US government:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PScfMeXAQwU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athan View Post
    Uh dude the actual public restaurant isn't the problem. (Outside of the strategic holes in the wall)
    It is the hidden rooms around the place. Did you actually think they are going to do anything indecent with customers actually coming in? lol

    Wow! That video is creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staerker View Post
    There is footage, however, of an underground cellar affectionately named "the kill room." And that's only what the owner had the balls to post online.
    There was excavation done underneath both Buck's Camping & Fishing AND Comet Ping Pong Pizza. Both businesses are owned by James Alefantis. Who the hell knows what's below ground.

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