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Thread: [Trump, Pelosi, Schumer meet] Trump threatens gov shutdown, Pelosi 'manhood' jab; Pence?

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    [Trump, Pelosi, Schumer meet] Trump threatens gov shutdown, Pelosi 'manhood' jab; Pence?

    By just staying above the fray and contantly appealing to GOP's Christian conservatives base with his quiet & low key excellence, is Mike Pence starting to look dangerously Presidential for 2024 (and even 2020 if Mueller made any big successful play)?

    ABC Summary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzJw7QnMqWE

    Full Trump-Pelosi/Schumer "showdown":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wm-NtMkqz8

    Although at times Trump tried to send winks to Schumer during this "showdown" over the wall funding, but this does not look like 'fake wrestling' feud as some conservtive critics had suggested. Could be 3D play from art of the dealer.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDDGKZCBpq4



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    Gotta hand it to Pelosi and Schumer. They are really good at making people think they actually have a legitimate hatred of Trump. Like how republcans wanted people to think they hated Obama. Maybe they'll be up for an Oscar next year. It's not like they don't want a wall. They probably do. They just want to use a wall for evil purposes. Don't worry though. Trump will make sure that no future president after him will be able to use that wall for globalist purposes even long after he's dead.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 12-11-2018 at 09:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You should probably give the computer a break and get some sleep.
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    Interesting read on the video via body language...


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    Trump is right. Let the transparency flow. Show everyone how much of a bunch of bull it all is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    Interesting read on the video via body language...

    I have not watched the video, but when I saw a similar picture on Facebook I immediately noticed Pence was power spreading with clenched hands. In related news, can you imagine the uproar if Trump had assailed Nancy's "womanhood?"

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    This seems to be the full video of the meeting:



    5:00 - Trump talks about how great Israel’s wall is. Hypocrisy trap for Pelosi and Schumer.
    6:00 - Pelosi fires first shot at Trump by calling it the “Trump Shutdown”.
    6:43 - Pelosi doesn’t want to talk in front of the press (or the people).
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    Pence is a very serious presidential contender. He already was before being VP, and is more of one now.

    I'm not crazy about him, especially his Israel-first beliefs. But he would be light years better than Trump.

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    Scott Adams usually has an interesting take:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Scott Adams usually has an interesting take:

    I don't normally watch Scott Adams but I watched the clip at the end where he discussed boycotts against products that are made in China. I've seen this idea before but its never stopped someone from buying an iphone or anything else made in China. I understand people not wanting to boycott but why do the people who refuse to shop at chick-fil-a buy an iphone every year?

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    That was AWESOME television!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    That was AWESOME television!

    I concur with this notion. I bet the ratings were amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Gotta hand it to Pelosi and Schumer. They are really good at making people think they actually have a legitimate hatred of Trump. Like how republcans wanted people to think they hated Obama. Maybe they'll be up for an Oscar next year. It's not like they don't want a wall. They probably do. They just want to use a wall for evil purposes. Don't worry though. Trump will make sure that no future president after him will be able to use that wall for globalist purposes even long after he's dead.
    Schumer voted for the wall back the first time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Art of the Dealer negotiation tactic # 7, "appear un-interested".
    Then act like you really like the person. You saw this happen with North Korea negotiations. Same template. That’s why he likes Pelosi and thinks she loves America.
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    This is a preview of the 2020 Debates if it is against career politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Trump is right. Let the transparency flow. Show everyone how much of a bunch of bull it all is.
    Transparency is good and good TV too.
    That said, it should be limited to made for TV glimpses like these. MAGA's meetings and discussions with his top funders on Iran sanctions, Ivanka convinced Syria bombing family meetings, Yemen war etc should continue to remain private.



    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    This seems to be the full video of the meeting:



    5:00 - Trump talks about how great Israel’s wall is. Hypocrisy trap for Pelosi and Schumer.
    6:00 - Pelosi fires first shot at Trump by calling it the “Trump Shutdown”.
    6:43 - Pelosi doesn’t want to talk in front of the press (or the people).
    That was one of the clever plays by MAGA even from reality TV standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Pence is a very serious presidential contender. He already was before being VP, and is more of one now.

    I'm not crazy about him, especially his Israel-first beliefs. But he would be light years better than Trump.
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    Chuck sure changed his tune since 2009...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    NO
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    Boring as hell, GWB all over again.
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    Can no one even hypothetically see any future event where a wall would keep AMERICANS from being able to leave through the country's southern border? Just a sober second thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Can no one even hypothetically see any future event where a wall would keep AMERICANS from being able to leave through the country's southern border? Just a sober second thought.
    Ron Paul can.

    And just yesterday he said that he's against the wall both because he's against keeping people in and because he's also against keeping people out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Ron Paul can.

    And just yesterday he said that he's against the wall both because he's against keeping people in and because he's also against keeping people out.
    you'd think an idea like that'd be ok on RonPaulForums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Boring as hell, GWB all over again.
    yeah, looks fukking mechanical.

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    In the Omnibus build was a 50 million dollar bill to build a wall in Jordan that Chuck had no problem.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...224223500.html

    Trump in 2004:

    As President Donald Trump battles with congressional Democrats over funding for a border wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, a comment he made to college graduates about concrete walls surfaced.

    During the speech — which he gave to graduates of Wagner College in 2004 — Trump gave advice for what someone should do if they encounter a metaphorical concrete wall, according to The Washington Post.

    If there’s a concrete wall in front of you, go through it, go over it, go around it,” he said, as seen in a video recording of the speech. “But get to the other side of that wall.”



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